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XCOM 2 |OT| Be Aggressive! Be Be Aggressive!
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Thats...uh...Xcom baby
TheWorthyEdge
Member
What is the Corgi mod?
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that grab move is one of the most infuriating in the game. the other move I hate is the Gatekeeper attack. the AOE is HUGE and hits so hard.
Yup that is what I expect, I have had two mission where in the middle of a move with my ranger, they have not only moved but attacked.
Incendiary
Banned
Overwatch ambush traps are not always successful. I pulled off a pitch perfect ambush - set up my guys to have an overwatch crossfire, then grenade'd the pod of three for decent damage. But then they didn't move an inch. Just stood there in a pool of acid, so all my overwatch guys did nothing. I always keep one person out of the ambush to pick up stragglers so I killed one, but then the other two got off attacks on my guys unexpectedly because they again didn't move at all.
I don't know if it was a bug or if these guys are getting smarter, but I'm gonna vary up my ambushes from now on.
I don't know if it was a bug or if these guys are getting smarter, but I'm gonna vary up my ambushes from now on.
AHA-Lambda
Member
K, the research for the
is now finally unlocked for me to do
Am also able to research lots of what I assume are late game tech, and have just encountered Chrysallids. So I'm wondering how much is there left to go?
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Am also able to research lots of what I assume are late game tech, and have just encountered Chrysallids. So I'm wondering how much is there left to go?
Shake Appeal
Member
This happened to me, and I think it's related to the bug where you can't overwatch sometimes. Both of them are triggered, as far as I can make out, by taking actions too quickly (e.g., hammering Y to get everyone to overwatch). Now I do my evac much more deliberately, waiting before each person is on the rope before moving on to the next.
I think the game should just run a check that ensures if every friendly actor is in the evac zone, everyone is safe and the missions ends. I can't think of any action you would want to take once everyone is inside the lights.
Also, related PSA: You cannot shoot out of the evac zone. I once moved into it to get a flanking shot and couldn't fire. It was very bad.
xChildOfHatex
Member
In my first playthrough where I was still getting accustomed to the nonsensical injury system, there was a time when everyone of my soldiers except one Major and a Captain were out with injuries and were supposed to recover in the next 2-3 days when I got a retaliation mission. I ignored it and went back to make contact again. Aside from a hit to the monthly supply quota, nothing went catastrophically bust.
Grenades, both Plasma and Acid, are the real MVP in this game.
That's not supposed to happen unless you're triggering an ability or something. I'm only in June on my first run, but I can't think of a situation where this should happen during your turn.
Yeah I just got that on a Facility X4. Two mecs and an officer just stood there, so I shrugged and shot them with a rocket, too.
Funny thing, MECs actually have less health than officers at this point.
They patched in the aliens shooting on reveal turn because of a certain AI exploit. The aliens will shoot if the revealing soldier is in yellow 'flanked' state to them at the end of that move so that you can't use a scout to 'drive' aliens back by just moving directly into the pod.
This really has been discussed to death as many as three years ago, on the original reboot.
The gist of it is, without a free turn, aliens are at a massive disadvantage vs your troops, since you have the option to always be in cover, while they're out in the open on patrol.
There are two alternatives. One, aliens have no free move. Game is ridiculously easy. (In fact, mods that do this are guaranteed to come, and they'll be great for making this point) or two, aliens likewise also shimmy from cover to cover before you encounter each other, which also poses its own set of problems.
captainpat
Member
I just turned to difficulty down to easy for a mission and got a flawless grade. On the onehand I feel kinda dirty about it on the but other hand I don't know if I should go back to veteran. I would at least like to get a bunch of powerful shit before I go back.
The overwatch thingy infurates me, as I was used to spam Y since EU, but it can be fixed by saving the game and loading it again. No idea if it would solve the extraction bug, it hasn't happened to me yet.
Oh, that's interesting, and a pretty good solution too.
Is it your last move though? If you have 5 dudes and you move 4 but see no aliens and then move a little farther with your last guy and happen to see enemies, they get to do their scramble to cover and also take a turn.
Ideally you want to discover enemies with your first move or scan an area with a battle scanner/support ability to scope it out.
MonorailCat
Member
Yes, MECs scale really bad into the late game. With all the anti-robot skills and Items they are pretty much a joke after a certain point.
I mean, 1 combat protocol with a Gremlin 3 instakills a mec with 100% certainty.
PeterVenkman
Member
That's good to hear. I am slightly concerned I triggered more difficult missions by rushing this story mission early - thought was a Blacksite Mission but it was actually narrative based. Now I've had Sectopods and Berserkers start showing up. Never thought I'd get so thoroughly trounced on normal.
AFAICT save/load fixes that problem.
toastyToast
Member
My moist as highest ranked unit gets panicked every single time. I thought they were supposed to build a resistance as they leveled up?
Salty Catfish
Member
Are they shaken? Panic is dependent on the Will stat which is severely lowered when they're in the shaken state. Though they get a permanent increase when they recover so I have a few upper level troops with Wills of 95-100.
xChildOfHatex
Member
Yeah, if you complete story missions, subsequent missions spawn tougher enemies. Another meter that the game uses is your own level of weapons/armour/tech. It's always better to build up your tech while doing side-missions because this way, you're always on par with the aliens' tech and tougher aliens only start spawning when the game believes you have the right equipment to handle them.
Salty Catfish
Member
it's the repeater weapon mod that gives you a small chance to instantly kill someone. had it happen to the first andromedon I encountered...so good.
toastyToast
Member
Oh, right. It's probably a shitty will stat. I'd have to check. My other units don't crumble nearly as easily.
Shake Appeal
Member
Re: Berserkers, I ran into them for the first time towards the end of my latest C/I run, and they seem... not dangerous? Just bullet sponges. As far as I could tell, they don't move closer with each shot now?
once they spot you close by they will rush the closest unit. altho I found their melee attacks not all that devastating considering their size.
MichaelFassbender
Member
"Alright, Min Ho, you can DO THIS! Gremlin was just upgraded, you've got shiny new weapons, you're hale and hearty! Now do me proud and hack that robot! You've done it, like, a thousand times!"
"MOTHERFUCKER!"
"MOTHERFUCKER!"
In my experience, this has been true. Most notably with physics. Seems like anytime one of my guys fall from any amount of height it's a 50/50 chance that they will just stop animating for the rest of the mission.
ISee
Member
Should be the last one.
Shake Appeal
Member
The funniest bug I've ever seen is when I blew up a viper on a roof and assumed it had died, because it had disappeared totally from view. Then, out of the corner of my eye, I see the thing slooowwwly animating upright again with a single health bar. But it sort of stopped halfway, so it was almost at a 45 degree angle with its head in the wall. And then next turn it bound one of my nearby soldiers, still at a 45 degree angle. It looked... odd.
The one time you wish Central would yell at you to remind you of something
That is what I thought, interesting array of new guys in this game.
Salty Catfish
Member
Have you fought an Andromedon yet? I first encountered those after both of the enemies you mentioned.
Interesting, I have fought a few before this.
I wonder if it is just chance or if there are certain variables that trigger aliens individually.
Yeah vipers cause some weird stuff too. I've got a ranger with blade master and vipers will pull her in which triggers an attack. Everytime this happens, she kills the viper but gets stuck in the bound animation and proceeds to slide around the map on her knees killing everything with her mind.
Oh yeah, and I had massive colour fluctuations in the last mission. I mean it made the whole thing look like a bad acid trip
but whenever someone would cast a psychic void rift type effect the whole screen was day-glo green or orange or purple.
"We're seeing civlians dying left and right Commander!"
"Uh, that was one person."
"This is turning into a massacre Commander!"
"I think three people is stretching the definition of a massacre, Central."
which might be appropriate considering the way the story was going
"We're seeing civlians dying left and right Commander!"
"Uh, that was one person."
"This is turning into a massacre Commander!"
"I think three people is stretching the definition of a massacre, Central."
Dick Justice
Banned
Combat specialists are perfect for dealing with mechs. Stunning or taking control of a sectopod is fun.
Also, kinda disappointed that enemies like sectoids and vipers seem to stop appearing after a point. Just when my soldiers were getting good enough to resist psychic attacks.
Also, kinda disappointed that enemies like sectoids and vipers seem to stop appearing after a point. Just when my soldiers were getting good enough to resist psychic attacks.
Grenadiers are also really good.
EMP/Plasma Grenade from forty feet away + Shredder + bluescreen/AP ammo = death
Shake Appeal
Member
Is it odd that Firaxis haven't said a single word about potential bug fixes, patches, performance improvements, etc.? I know it's only been a couple of business days since release, but this is a PC game.