XCOM 2: War of the Chosen |OT| Mario + Rabbids + Autopsies
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Canon-wise, you lost the EU/EW campaign after a few weeks of fighting, and the Elders kept you in stasis for twenty years to run simulations in order to refine and perfect their strategy and tactics. Essentially every 'won' game of EU/EW was a simulation. Now the resistance are finally breaking you out.
That did the trick, thanks
TC McQueen
Member
Well, if you take the original version of the final mission at face value,
you do beat the aliens in an alternate universe, at least if you go by the Uber Ethereal's dialogue.
RedlineRonin
Member
Anymore performance impressions?
Is it running better than vanilla 2 ran? About the same?
Is it running better than vanilla 2 ran? About the same?
Subtervotion
Member
Downloading now. Can't wait to play!
Shake Appeal
Member
Much better. Like, much. I'm kind of stunned.
Load times are a fraction of what they were for vanilla. Framerate is still a little erratic, but I don't get the single digits on map load that I used to, and there are fewer hitches for destruction/explosions/fire.
The only place that isn't routinely hitting 60fps on nearly-max setting at 1440p is the squad loadout/edit screen, which was always a bugbear.
It also doesn't do that thing it used to where I temporarily got a black screen with little patches of green lighting whenever I returned to the Avenger.
TheGreenArrow
Member
Mission load times are about 1/8 of what they used to be. Crazy
johancruijff
Banned
so fucking smooth
and the loading times on ssd are basically nonexistent
and the loading times on ssd are basically nonexistent
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Ugh, so yeah I still get constant crashes. And not just "normal" crashes too, just huge hardlocks that require me to reboot my PC.
I really don't know what the hell the problem is
Yep. The crashes are insane. I'm getting blue screens like crazy. It's unplayable. Only game that's ever done this.
Music to my ears... maybe I'll pick this up before it goes on sale after all
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
It is now actually playable on a GTX 460 with 1GB, I'm somewhat surprised to say.
However, the way that accomplished is a bit.. eh.
What it seems like to me is that even the more basic particle effects that were still on in the vanilla game are turned off on lowest settings, and some other effects on the render seem to be disabled too. Visually however, you wouldn't really spot those unless you were looking for them. And obviously: lowest settings, lol.
The other big change is that ship animations are mildly simplified from the looks of it, in particular the biggest strain in framerate: the skyranger animations.
They were previously a slideshow for me, but that's the price you pay for people like me having seven year old systems.
I'll go check if the same changes exist in the vanilla version too, or whether they're ignored regardless of whether WotC is present.
edit: seems some of them are there, particularly explosions and physics effects no longer have such a big effect on performance, but there does appear to be a load time difference between vanilla and the DLC, with WotC being way faster on that end.
At any rate, any 'gaming system' from the last five years should find this playable well now.
LurkerPrime
Member
I am loving these faction VOs--there's like five or six Star Trek actors in the mix.
Can you spot them all?
EW is still a great time. If you've played XCOM 2 you'll miss the improvements, but it plays differently, such that it doesn't feel like you're just doing the same thing over again.
Can you spot them all?
EW is still a great time. If you've played XCOM 2 you'll miss the improvements, but it plays differently, such that it doesn't feel like you're just doing the same thing over again.
This breaking most my mods is a pretty big bummer. It was outright crashing until I turned them all off. I wanted to try one at a time to see if any of the pure content mods made it through but it just wasn't worth the effort. Did the first mission and looked around then turned it off for now.
It runs alot better then vanilla though like almost night and day.
It runs alot better then vanilla though like almost night and day.
Dick Justice
Banned
Hope the Alternate Mod Launcher gets an update soon. The vanilla launcher is fucking awful. Takes ages to load, no sorting, no renaming, lack of extra features, etc.
Shake Appeal
Member
I started a new game with the tutorial on because I heard the tutorial was new-ish, but I didn't get the option to turn on Ironman. I'm doing a self-enforced Ironman for now, but that seems ... odd?
TC McQueen
Member
No. Play at least one campaign of vanilla to learn how the game works, then jump into WOTC.
Go to Documents/My Games/XCOM 2 WOTC/. There's a Photo Booth folder there that holds all your posters.
Alternate mod launcher is so damn good. By the way, on the subreddit there's a master list of WotC compatible popular mods. Some of my favorite ones I use in vanilla are working:
Cost-Based Ability Colors
Free Camera Rotation
Yet Another F1
RoboJumper's Squad Select
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
I loaded a save from near the end of the vanilla game, and I was shocked at how many options I had forgotten. WotC adds even more.
The sudden addition of a ruler into an ongoing game was weird though.
Maybe I should replay vanilla before going into WotC myself as well. :\
The sudden addition of a ruler into an ongoing game was weird though.
Maybe I should replay vanilla before going into WotC myself as well. :\
Yes, controller support is in! I had a mini-freak out for about 5 minutes before realizing I had to re-enable controller support in Options.
I've only put an hour or two in, just getting to the Reapers and Skirmishers units, but boy, it definitely feels like it has more personality now with named units and traits. I can see myself starting to totally Fire Emblem it up with character pairings and managing relationship syncups, too! Sign my ass up for another 60 hours.
Poodlestrike
Banned
My god, the mission timer on the new bomb disposal mission is brutal. 4 turns, with a single turn extension for blowing up relays.
Doctor Ironic
Member
Yes indeedy.
Would be cool to know this as well. Playing on hard at the moment, and so far it seems kinda on the easy side.
Thanks for the answer.
We are but I don't have the logistical chops or understanding of the char pool to use it.
Could you set it up?
They didn't, which they are taking some justified flak for, but they said it is because they essentialy rebuilt big portions of the game for the expansion.
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Well, time for legend ironman campaign 2: I hope things don't spiral tragically out of control this time!
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
What's the difference between 'DLC integrated' and selecting the missions "the nest" and a specific Shen DLC mission separately?
Because I figured not selecting those would disable those DLC's for my first campaign, but if 'integrated' means they're already active, what's the difference?
Because I figured not selecting those would disable those DLC's for my first campaign, but if 'integrated' means they're already active, what's the difference?
Integrated you don't have the story missions, rulers appear at facilities and your first spark cost money.
Not Integrated and unchecked means no story missions, but rulers start appearing randomly and your first spark project at the proving ground is free.
Not Integrated and checked means the story missions.
They recommend not doing the story missions because three long early game missions doesn't blend well with the fatigue system.
So they fixed the mission loading times, huh? They're about 1/20 of what they were in base XCOM 2.
Which makes the base game all the more frustrating. How the hell did they manage to make it load so slowly? Even playing LW2 is a very frustrating experience with extended loading times.
Which makes the base game all the more frustrating. How the hell did they manage to make it load so slowly? Even playing LW2 is a very frustrating experience with extended loading times.
terencecah
Member
i added my amazon key to steam and i don't see a separate entry for this, does it launch from xcom 2?
Pheace
Member
Yes, you have to select it in the launcher that pops up. They really should have made it more obvious.
marvelharvey
Member
Also, if it hasn't started downloading, restarting Steam will kick it off.
Snapshot King
Member
Bout to pick it up, didn't realize it but I had all the DLC, hadn't played in a while. I should keep Shens gift and Alien Hunters on right?
TheThunder
Member
Start a new campaign on Legend since I already beat vanilla on legend twice, ace gatecrasher but get destroyed on the second mission, say to myself "just play on commander and figure out what's this all new stuff about then do a legend run after" get rolled over on the second mission anyway.
Yup it's xcom.
Yup it's xcom.
Slackbladder
Member
Yes. When you play WotC you can get rid of them if you want but if you keep them you no longer have to do the missions and the weapons that you find you develop and make instead. The Alien Hunters are still there but they don't attack every move now and you're warned when one appears. In my case at an Alien Facility. Basically they've been streamlined and incorporated into the WotC game.
Cheers for this.
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