I don't want to jump bridges, but I'm going to assume this isn't your first time playing.
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Xenoblade 3D |OT| Is that a Monado in your pocket or are you just really feeling it?
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I don't want to jump bridges, but I'm going to assume this isn't your first time playing.
This is my second time to play the game. I feel it is boring to defeat unique monsters when my level is very high at the end of game. This time, I tried to kill unique monsters only. However, I still killed a few monsters to get enough sp to learn skills. Luckily, I challenged most unique monsters(only one exception) at the same or lower level. I found some strategies that I never thought in the first gameplay. It is really interesting.
JumpJeff84
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Just copped a New 3DS and a copy of this. Excited to finally play it
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
How do you get more soundtracks and models?
chaosblade
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That's pretty much what I'm doing, except avoiding I'm avoiding normal enemies wherever possible. Tirkin hideout was certainly interesting, felt like a stealth game.
At the boss you mentioned, it's a bit of a road block mostly because Sharla dies in one hit to nearly any of his attacks. Can't build the party gauge when I'm busy reviving her, and she keeps stealing aggro like crazy. Probably going to craft some gems next time I play, will have to see what I have available.
"Ether" is basically synonymous with magic in this case. For your arts, anything with a gray line through it is an ether art and will be impacted by the ether stat.
Light Heal has it:
Back Slash doesn't:
Art color is also an indicator.
Blue arts are generally ether-based support arts, like healing, curing, or other status-related stuff. Purple arts are damage-based ether arts, like Reyn's Aura Burst. Auras are also always ether-based.
Red arts are physical attack arts, they will never be ether based.
Don't remember if any break arts are ether-based, but topple and daze arts can be either physical or ether.
I... had no idea what that line meant.
I didn't even know there was a line, lol.
I do not craft gems before defeating ether mine story boss. The key for this battle is monado speed and Sharla's defense. I strongly suggest you to link Reyn's skill heavy equipment. With the heavy armor, Sharla and Reyn will survive longer. You can get the heavy armor from bionis leg and ether mine unique monsters. The key is to increase affinity between Sharla and Reyn and let Sharla link to the skill to wear heavy armor.
TheMoon
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Dice//
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I honestly must have glazed over the part that talked about a line through the image though...
StarStabbedMoon
Member
I'd also recommend the google spreadsheet to supplement the wiki, as others have suggested. It's great for searching and tracking your progress for 100% runs. The wiki has the most detail for stats and locations in particular, but this gives you basic facts and data quickly. Keep in mind the spreadsheet contains spoilers and shouldn't be used for a standard playthrough of the main story.
Model viewer is in the main menu at the title screen. You have to reset to access it.
pinkurocket
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There's one sidequest in Satorl Marsh (minor sidequest spoiler)
where there's a Nopon somewhere in a cave that's injured and starving. He asks you for food, later to kill monsters outside the cave and also medicine. I made it my top priority to help that poor Nopon because otherwise I'd be leaving him there to die. That sidequest became my most memorable, I just felt so bad for the lil' guy. ):
I always read the new character tutorials (because otherwise their combat mechanic is completely impossible to figure out...). It's weird though because you can pretty much get by without ever reading a tutorial except when all of a sudden you can't. It's a signal to noise thing. They never teach you that the tutorials are necessary so you just assume "well, I'm succeeding so I must have figured it out on my own".
Hah I had the same experience. Definitely dug that one.
I hope you do the Frontier Village side quests that link in with that lone Nopon's quest line!
I have, though. I read every tutorial as they come up, and even open up the Tutorial menu from time-to-time (mostly when I get a new character or want to use someone else). That line is just really hard to see on a 3DS screen.
Magnet_Man
Member
- Give gifts to them (look up on a wiki or something to see what's best).
- Have them in your party as you accept / progress through sidequests.
- Do Chain Attacks.
- Help them during battle when hit with ailments such as topple, low tension (their portrait has a sad face), and deadness.
- Do successful Burst Affinity during fights (where the action slows briefly and you time your button press with the shrinking circle).
The last two are the best methods. One trick that works pretty well early game is when you spot a group of Mechon, engage them but do not use Enchant. Your other two team members will keep attacking and constantly dealing only 1 damage and stuff to them will lower their tension until the point that you can run up and cheer them on.
A better method supposedly that I haven't tried is find a Unique Monster that causes sleep or topple constantly. Let your part get hit with the status ailments, run up and save them, get distance, repeat until they die or you're bored, flee. No idea who a good target is though. A Google result has suggested Flabbergasted Jerome is a suitable target, but I don't know why he's good.
Confound it Shulk AI, stop using Battle Soul. I can't even switch it out due to the lack of Arts.
He's so suicidal with it.
Unequip the art if you're going to have the AI control Shulk. There's a button for that, it was 2 on the Wiimote, I'm not sure what the 3DS controls require you to push. Not replace one art with another, but flat-out unequip art.
I pressed multiple buttons in different sequences looking for just a way to do that, but it was to no avail. Going to skim the Digital Manual really quick and see if it says anything there. Thanks for letting me know the option is(was?) there. I had given up on it.
Should be ZR button.
Isn't it ZR? That's the button used to unequip basically everything else (Gems, equipment etc).
Yeah the bottom screen sucks, although I didn't notice it after I started playing to be honest. It felt so good to play this again on such a convenient, comfortable platform and have it perform so well. For that alone I'm glad this port happened.
Well, things like this, actual event oriented story/plot, you arent going to get until you get to that point in the game, and see the events themselves, which is why these parts I have spoilered, because they are actually story spoilers, rather than themes and symbology type story stuff.
You have, seen some things that have indicated this, but you just have no way of really knowing what it was until later, when you go, huh. I guess that wasnt a figure of speech or whatever.
And if you are just before frontier village, then you have seen one of the very important events described, although you may not understand the full importance of what shulk was taught to do, until later in the game. Even gameplay mechanics/moves have a significant place in the story.
However, you should be about knee deep in symbology and themes by now. Which will begin opening up worlds of story beyond simply rote event after event.
For example, the very first thing you see in the game, is probably the most awesome visual representation of the forming of a Dyad... Ever.
The binding/dividing line of this dyad is one of the most instantly iconic pieces of imagry in the game, visible and eye drawing from pretty much any of the early areas of the game, stretching all the way out from the mechonis, and into the bionis.
Duality is also a huge theme for the rest of the game as well.
Dyads, are begat by the Monad, so you know you have 3 entities, or a triad. The dyads, which we watched come into existance, and the monad that created them.
Have you seen a symbol that might be representative of a triad? You have. Its been plastered center shot of a cutscene you just recently watched, if you are in makna forest, far enough to be 'right before frontier village'. Might want to keep an eye out for that symbol. And its pretty obvious how many beings will be bearing it.
Story veterans:
No, this is not about Zanzas 'trinity', that is a false triad, that zanza created, because he fancies himself the Monad. He did it wrong, because he sucks.
The story of the events that happen in a sequential order is not going to unfold, until the events of the story unfold in a narrow, narrative linear fashion, as things like plots do. And this is well done enough, and is fun, but its never really what a Xeno story has been about, and blade has one of the best of the bunch in that regaurd. The story of the games world, symbology and themes, is woven into both the top layer of plot, and also into the gameplay, and it runs deep, and wide.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I don't have anymore heavy equipment and my playthrough rules don't let me go back and grind for stuff.
Gems and probably buying some armor from the Nopon merchant if he has anything slotted will be my only options.
Fixed that for you.
I'm at that Frontier Village as well and already level 39 thanks to doing some refugee camp quests so Eryth Sea should be interesting.
You can get agility and muscle up from ether mine and craft the crystal to above 75%. Get 2 crystals and it is possible for you to get higher level gems. Because the affinity is low, this method may be easier to get good gems. Completing the collectopaedia will also give you relatively good armor and gems. Or you can also save and load to get what you want from gold chests just like the way to get advanced art books.
Solid SOAP
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I kept getting my ass kicked by the boss right after Riki joined the party, so I made my way around the world map a few times until I realized that I didn't even touch Colony 6. No idea how. So I'm starting to rebuild it now and go thru a few side quests.
The game's scope continues to impress me, it really is something special. A treat technical feat on 3DS too!
The game's scope continues to impress me, it really is something special. A treat technical feat on 3DS too!
10 hours into the game, I keep forgetting about the plethora of systems I have to keep an eye on. Skill trees, arts, equipment, gems, etc... in particular I think the equipment UI could be improved; it's hard for me to tell whether a piece of equipment is better than another one, specially since gem effects are shown when comparing gear.
Anyway, I'm level 23 at the
. Does that sound about right?
Anyway, I'm level 23 at the
Colony 6 mine trying to rescue Juju
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Everyday is leg day in nopon village.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Well.... I should be... But...
I was gonna say that you need to get to prision island,but then i saw the avaar, oh
JumpJeff84
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About to start playing this for the first time. Anything important to know when starting off?
I was gonna say that you need to get to prision island,but then i saw the avaar, oh
Im pretty sure everyone in the game hates me.
I constantly leave them, in life threatening urgency, for hours on end so I can chase butterflies and shit.
Accept but don't obsess over quests.
Read the tutorials they're mad good.
Push on until Guar Plain, that's when you're out of the prologue and the true Xenoblade begins.
Other than that, just press on, and on... and on!!
Welcome to the party.
So I'm about 2 hours in and honestly not feeling the love that GAF has for this game. Played Xenogears, Xenosaga 1, 2, and 3 but Monado is meh to me. I think I might just take a break from the game and play some Super Smash Bros until I need the urge to get back into Xenoblade.
CertifiedFP
Member
BTW, what's the opinion around here on the strategy of picking off adds surrounding a field boss, running from the fight, and repeating until my party can take on the boss Mano E Mano?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Cheeeeese. Shouldn't be necessary at all, but killing the small stuff first can help. Especially when dealing with enemies that can do their own chain attacks like Tirkins.
I had an enemy do this to me though, lol. One of the Tirkin UMs on Bionis Leg literally gave up and booked it, ran through another group of Tirkins and out of his own aggro range, then ran back to his starting point with full HP. Was like whaaaaaat. Have it recorded, will upload it eventually.
I know all this, but thanks. Wasn't really asking for help, just commenting on what I was doing.
My rules for my play through are, roughly:
- Fight all the UMs possible, once. Repeat kills for grinding are out. Might make an exception if I tackle post game.
- Avoid normal enemies when possible. Adds for UMs and stuff like that in the way will get killed off, but if it is reasonably avoidable I will avoid it.
- No chest farming, whatever I get is what I get.
- No quests, with exceptions. I'm getting the challenge quests since I am killing the UMs anyway, and I will need to do some prereq quests for some enemies to be available.
Might be forgetting something, but that is most of it. Have definitely abused the collectopedia, Lightning Attack from Tephra Cave is incredibly good early in the game.
This has nothing to do with Xenogears or saga. Tetsuya Takahashi just loves "Xeno" (he directed Xenogears, Xenosaga, and Xenoblade).
At least play until you reach the Gaur Plains and explore them a bit.
That's exactly what Lure is designed for. Separate the mooks from the bosses.
You're like the 5th person to come into this thread and say "I'm a few hours in and not feeling it". Keep playing. You're like 5% through the game. Soon you'll be really feeling it.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Some enemies are automatically grouped and attack together, you can see this when you select the enemy, sometimes other enemies will have yellow arrows over their heads.
Some are solo despite having other enemies around them. That is where lure works well.
Yeah. I'm in Satorl Marsh and almost all the field bosses are separate from the units around them.