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Zack Snyder's Justice League |OT| Tell Me...Do You Still Bleed?
Madflavor
Member
So, ZSJL is better than the Josstice League, but somehow it has a worst rating ?
Oh yes it's a Zack Snyder film so it's bad by definition.
That to me reads that she recognizes on a technical filmmaking level it's a better film, but Snyder's style isn't her cup of tea. That's the only way I think this makes sense, otherwise really poor wording on her part.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Yep. It’s the same movie, but longer and a better. The only reason anyone kept saying it wasn’t was to distance it from Josstice League as much as possible. This is not a grand new event in cinema history. It‘s an improved director’s cut of a four year old film.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
The_Mighty_X
Banned
Guys, guys! It's a stupid movie about some super people with capes n shit...
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
"The ultimate climax of the DC superhero epic is one for the books, involving an electrifying turn of events executed by the film’s wise-cracking speedster and emotionally-driven Cyborg. It’s a fitting grand finale to a trilogy curated by Snyder, one that truly should’ve led to so much more."
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[Review] Zack Snyder’s ‘Justice League’ Delivers the Ultimate DC Experience Fans Were Hoping For
The time has come. Years after 2017’s Justice League disappointed fans in theaters, Zack Snyder has brought his official director’s cut to HBO Max. The original film was plagued with behind the scenes issues, from competing visions to personal matters leading Mr. Snyder to step away from the...
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ManaByte
Member
Guys, guys! It's a stupid movie about some super people with capes n shit...
We must defend our fictional characters to the death.
ManaByte
Member
Zack Snyder's Justice League Seemingly Uses Halo Emblem for Deathstroke's Sword - IGN
Zack Snyder's Justice League seemingly used an emblem created for the Halo video games on Deathstroke's sword.
Aggelos
Member
Zack Snyder's Justice League - The Art of VFX
We can’t get enough of the epic Zack Snyder’s Justice League, so let’s watch its 10 first minutes: The VFX are made by:DNEG (VFX Supervisor: Tom Proctor)MPC (VFX Supervisor: Seth Maury)Scanline VFX (VFX Supervisors: Bryan Hirota & Julius Lechner)Weta Digital (VFX Supervisor: Keith...
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pauljeremiah
Gold Member
ManaByte
Member
HBO Max Boss Confirms the Snyder Cut Doesn’t Actually Exist Yet
In a new interview, Robert Greenblatt explained what’s ahead for the Justice League redux—and how much it could cost.
ManaByte
Member
They're posting the 4:3 remaster of BvS this week along with this on HBO Max.
TTOOLL
Member
I saw the theatrical release but I want to watch the extended version, is that it?
ManaByte
Member
Yea the remastered is the Extended when they post it. The Ultimate Edition up right now is still the 16:9 Blu-Ray version. They're adding a 4:3 remastered version with corrected color timing on Thursday.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
My, my, my. He gave it a fresh review.
I'm slightly confused, reading all your post it seems like because you're not too high on the film you're hoping you can rain on people's excitement to the point of even being bothered if people discuss the movie in a positive way.
Are you that emotionally invested in what other people choose to enjoy if it doesn't line up with your opinion?
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I thought it was only for a physical release... I'm so glad it's going to be on HBOMax!
ManaByte
Member
HBO Max this week, digital/physical next week. The physical disc is Warner Archive (print on demand) so if you want one order ASAP as those can have delays.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Thanks! I'm watching all of them this weekend... And a Zoom watch party at 6pm with friends.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
People seemed oddly forgiving of Justice League compared to other DCEU films. So many times when I heard "it was FUN" or "a step in the right direction", it felt hollow and a desperate way to not say the film sucked.So, ZSJL is better than the Josstice League, but somehow it has a worst rating ?
Oh yes it's a Zack Snyder film so it's bad by definition.
Almost as if audiences/critics felt responsible for the direction the franchise had taken after BvS and wanted to assure themselves that the were right to critique the previous films dour tone.
That's just my perception.
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ManaByte
Member
Zack Snyder: Justice League Snyder Cut Is “All You’re Gonna Get” From the SnyderVerse
Zack Snyder's Justice League is 'all you're gonna get' from the SnyderVerse, according to Zack [...]
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Zack Snyder: Justice League Snyder Cut Is “All You’re Gonna Get” From the SnyderVerse
Zack Snyder's Justice League is 'all you're gonna get' from the SnyderVerse, according to Zack [...]comicbook.com
And I'm going to be happy we even got it! I'm buying a physical copy as soon as they become available! I'll finally have my trilogy!
ManaByte
Member
He does say Jim Lee has talked about doing a comic prequel about the death of Robin.
ZehDon
Member
Have we got confirmation they're releasing a physical version of this yet?
ManaByte
Member
Internationally, yes. There are listings for it the end of May.
ZehDon
Member
Today just got a little better. Cheers.
LordCBH
Member
Yup. You can Preorder on Amazon, which I did as soon as it went up but ship time for it is mid April. Probably cause of the print on demand thing.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
I watched BvS again last night for the first time in a couple years. I still enjoy it, but my feelings are always mixed.
There is something so oppressive about these movies and I don't think it comes from the darkness of the storyline, but the coldness and un-likeability of so many characters.
When it comes to Batman, Superman, WW, and Alfred, I am pretty much sold. I can get into these versions of the characters well enough, especially visually.
Nearly everyone else is hard to be around. Lex, the Senator, the Martian Manhunter dude, the man who blows up the courthouse, etc. I find nearly all the side-characters unbearable.
I think for most of them it comes down to the script - so much of the dialogue really does feel self-important, pretentious, or unnatural. It's not clever, captivating dialogue like Tarantino does it. It's more like someone taking five minutes to send every text back so they can come up with something that sounds really deep, but it just sounds like they are trying too hard.
Here's just a few examples off the top of my head that sound dorky or unnatural in the given situation to me:
"With balls like that, you belong in here." (Martian Manhunter says to Lois when she questions him in the men's bathroom. Why the hell would MM say something like that? It makes me wince no matter who says it though.)
"I grew up on a farm - I know how to 'wrassle' a pig." (Nothing inherently wrong with this, but I find it cringe. Maybe it's the delivery or the fact that Senator has annoyed me too much by this point in the film)
"I can't even take a piss standing up" (man in wheelchair to senator when describing why he hates Superman. Could be delivery here too. It's just...too much.)
With Lex, my issues lean more towards the choices Eisenberg is making. His dialect and the way he adds a "hmm" or "ah" every sentence is so goofy. I respect that he is trying to give us a lively, fun character to watch on-screen, but the execution is awful. Then there is the granny's peach tee thing, which I just find...goofy and dumb. It's too much.
So yeah, it makes the movie a bit of a slog to get through. But every time that XL junkie score kicks in over a Superman montage or Batman action scene, I'm glued to the screen like a five year old on Saturday morning.
There is something so oppressive about these movies and I don't think it comes from the darkness of the storyline, but the coldness and un-likeability of so many characters.
When it comes to Batman, Superman, WW, and Alfred, I am pretty much sold. I can get into these versions of the characters well enough, especially visually.
Nearly everyone else is hard to be around. Lex, the Senator, the Martian Manhunter dude, the man who blows up the courthouse, etc. I find nearly all the side-characters unbearable.
I think for most of them it comes down to the script - so much of the dialogue really does feel self-important, pretentious, or unnatural. It's not clever, captivating dialogue like Tarantino does it. It's more like someone taking five minutes to send every text back so they can come up with something that sounds really deep, but it just sounds like they are trying too hard.
Here's just a few examples off the top of my head that sound dorky or unnatural in the given situation to me:
"With balls like that, you belong in here." (Martian Manhunter says to Lois when she questions him in the men's bathroom. Why the hell would MM say something like that? It makes me wince no matter who says it though.)
"I grew up on a farm - I know how to 'wrassle' a pig." (Nothing inherently wrong with this, but I find it cringe. Maybe it's the delivery or the fact that Senator has annoyed me too much by this point in the film)
"I can't even take a piss standing up" (man in wheelchair to senator when describing why he hates Superman. Could be delivery here too. It's just...too much.)
With Lex, my issues lean more towards the choices Eisenberg is making. His dialect and the way he adds a "hmm" or "ah" every sentence is so goofy. I respect that he is trying to give us a lively, fun character to watch on-screen, but the execution is awful. Then there is the granny's peach tee thing, which I just find...goofy and dumb. It's too much.
So yeah, it makes the movie a bit of a slog to get through. But every time that XL junkie score kicks in over a Superman montage or Batman action scene, I'm glued to the screen like a five year old on Saturday morning.
cr0w
Old Member
About 3 hours and 45 minutes of it.
Reality Czar
Banned
Really looking forward to this. From what I hear, it is pretty cool and OTT in the usual Snyder way.
At first the grimdark stuff turned me off, but I quickly became a fan of how campy it was. Snyder has an eye for iconography, and while he can be a terrible storyteller, his cinematographer's eye brings a suitably epic mythical quality to these heroes. Man of Steel had a good amount of visual fantasy and emotional reality mixed in with the nonsense. I loved the sci fi Krypton stuff. Batman V Superman has a scene with mopey Superman where he says "Superman was never real" lol can you imagine? This is the ultimate black fingernail sad goth Hot Topic version of Superman. Hahaha I love it. Look we have had Batman flashing credit cards and sliding down the backs of dinosaurs like Fred Flintsone, let's see what we can do with Superman. I don't mind him dark now, and the Snyderverse makes sense for our cynical world.
The thought that Snyder was trying to fully set up some dark reality stuff is pretty interesting, looking forward to seeing some glimpses of that here. I suppose it is all a tease for a possible future episode? If the lockdowns continue then it's possible they will sign on for more, and maybe streaming content will somehow end up saving this project.
Very curious to hear Armond White's take on this. He loves DC verse.
At first the grimdark stuff turned me off, but I quickly became a fan of how campy it was. Snyder has an eye for iconography, and while he can be a terrible storyteller, his cinematographer's eye brings a suitably epic mythical quality to these heroes. Man of Steel had a good amount of visual fantasy and emotional reality mixed in with the nonsense. I loved the sci fi Krypton stuff. Batman V Superman has a scene with mopey Superman where he says "Superman was never real" lol can you imagine? This is the ultimate black fingernail sad goth Hot Topic version of Superman. Hahaha I love it. Look we have had Batman flashing credit cards and sliding down the backs of dinosaurs like Fred Flintsone, let's see what we can do with Superman. I don't mind him dark now, and the Snyderverse makes sense for our cynical world.
The thought that Snyder was trying to fully set up some dark reality stuff is pretty interesting, looking forward to seeing some glimpses of that here. I suppose it is all a tease for a possible future episode? If the lockdowns continue then it's possible they will sign on for more, and maybe streaming content will somehow end up saving this project.
Very curious to hear Armond White's take on this. He loves DC verse.
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ManaByte
Member
Aggelos
Member
People hafta know about DNEG. We need the Visual Effects companies, the world needs them.
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ManaByte
Member
Pretty clear why they don't consider this canon to the DCEU since it clashes with Aquaman (and that movie mad $1 billion).
Mera has a British accent in ZSJL, she doesn't in Aquaman.
They can't speak underwater in ZSJL, they need water bubbles (they communicate with clicks underwater in ZSJL).
Different Vulko.
Orm is already at war in ZSJL, when he starts the war in Aquaman.
Mera has a British accent in ZSJL, she doesn't in Aquaman.
They can't speak underwater in ZSJL, they need water bubbles (they communicate with clicks underwater in ZSJL).
Different Vulko.
Orm is already at war in ZSJL, when he starts the war in Aquaman.
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RaptorGTA
Member
We had people on the internet arguing over the color of a dress and the color of a shoe. This is par for the course.
Madflavor
Member
Which is funny considering it's pretty clear at this point Zack's cut is the superior film.
If they do reboot, I don't even know if it's worth it at this point. The MCU is so unbelievably far ahead of them, it's really not even funny. Especially today with the future of Cinema in question, it really feels like it's too late.
Ulysses 31
Member
Did I miss this detail somewhere in the movie or am I misunderstanding something?
The Anti-Life equation is on the primitive planet that fought back and managed to drive away Darkseid's forces, right?
So how could they ever forget the location of the only planet to managed to do that?
So how could they ever forget the location of the only planet to managed to do that?
