adults, why do you 'console war'?
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What's interesting is that a lot of that isn't true. A UI aimed at pushing adds? Where are these ads, in the store? Ahahahah.
The console wars, it deals in nonsense. Console warriors love nonsense.
Console warrior talk. Serious business.
The War of Independance is a playground scuffle compared to PS4/XB1
I can't help but imagine most of the enjoyment one can bring out of sports would be gone if they were neither actively participating or had a favorite team to root for. I suppose similar actually can apply for games, but there's a hell of a lot more weight on actual participation so rooting for them while not actually playing games seems sort of insane.
Yeah, for the most part any company I wanted knocked down was a company doing things I didn't really like. Sony being pains in the ass about game approval meant I wanted them knocked down or at least made less desirable for Japanese games to be made on so there were better odds of some of them actually getting localized, and likewise Microsoft's planned DRM made me want to see them completely and utterly fail, and even with that dropped I still want to see them knocked down several pegs as a reminder to not pull that shit again. Otherwise I'd just like to see the stuff I like do well enough, IE the handhelds or even the Wii U. Don't need to be king of the hill (pretty much impossible in raw numbers relative to mobile anyway) just well enough for developers and publishers to actually support rather than ostracize.
I don't like Sony and Microsoft as companies. I don't buy anything they produce except their gaming systems. I don't like their business philosophies. I don't like how Sony try to act like they are invincible and best at every single market they're in, including Hollywood. I don't like arrogance of Microsoft and how they're playing dirty to win against Google and Apple.
But I have their consoles and play their games. I never complain about that. They both own some very talented studios and I respect every one of them. That doesn't mean I'm a big fan of either two of the world's biggest electronics/software companies. They're just names to me.
But I have their consoles and play their games. I never complain about that. They both own some very talented studios and I respect every one of them. That doesn't mean I'm a big fan of either two of the world's biggest electronics/software companies. They're just names to me.
Me either, but console wars didn't exist when I was a kid. That I'm aware of, anyway.
Completely agree.
I like Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony. The people that actually "hate" one company or the other are sad. There are much more important things to rally for.
Console/arcade/game wars have been around since the 70s/80s.
Unless you were a kid well before then
Console wars do not just happen because some kid on GameFaqs cannot afford all 3 consoles.
I think for the older crowd it is embedded in nostalgia, they want that time back when they were young and careless, if they spent much of that time in their youth playing video games they will naturally attach a specific console or selection of games to that time period.
The impressions you get as a child will often last you a lifetime.
Think of your favorite consoles, games, music, film, sports, chances are they are coming from the same time period, aka when you were growing up and these made their impression on you. Its certainly possible that your favorite movie is from 1994 while your favorite album is from 2009, but chances are good they come from similar time period.
Last generation when it was clear that the Wii was going to be the market leader, many long time fans realized that even though Nintendo was number 1 again, that it still did not bring that time back, when you were a kid, watching Michael Jackson and Duran Duran videos on MTV, watching Rocky and Terminator and playing your Nintendo. Those memories are never coming back. At best it just gave fans bragging rights, which are pretty superficial and pointless.
Reason people can get so fiery about it, is because they see others as trampling on their memories, rather than actually talking shit about some product that is a piece of plastic and in no way is harmed by someone on the internet talking trash about it.
I think for the older crowd it is embedded in nostalgia, they want that time back when they were young and careless, if they spent much of that time in their youth playing video games they will naturally attach a specific console or selection of games to that time period.
The impressions you get as a child will often last you a lifetime.
Think of your favorite consoles, games, music, film, sports, chances are they are coming from the same time period, aka when you were growing up and these made their impression on you. Its certainly possible that your favorite movie is from 1994 while your favorite album is from 2009, but chances are good they come from similar time period.
Last generation when it was clear that the Wii was going to be the market leader, many long time fans realized that even though Nintendo was number 1 again, that it still did not bring that time back, when you were a kid, watching Michael Jackson and Duran Duran videos on MTV, watching Rocky and Terminator and playing your Nintendo. Those memories are never coming back. At best it just gave fans bragging rights, which are pretty superficial and pointless.
Reason people can get so fiery about it, is because they see others as trampling on their memories, rather than actually talking shit about some product that is a piece of plastic and in no way is harmed by someone on the internet talking trash about it.
You're not American. I read this over and over and could not understand what fucking has to do with the console wars.
Why do you think MS went with a tiled UI? We saw the ads arrive on the 360 of course, so really it's a continuation.
Alx
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Same mechanism, mostly. Once you associate a group/brand with "good feelings", your next natural reaction is to consider its competition as "the enemy". Our natural tribal instincts are very basic, it usually comes down to "us versus them".
PJV3
Member
I'm an old bastard as well.
I'm assuming people are thinking of something like this:
my thoughts on cockzone 2
cockzone 2 is a game for the gaystation triple which means it's three times as gay.
people say the graphics are good, but i think they suck and aren't very good at all\
gears of war is the best looking game out there except for halo, so don't even talk to me about this kind of crap for any reason.
before you call me a fanboy, I own all three systems, so don't call me fanboy, but if you own a playstatation 3, you eat dicks for breakfast, lunch and dinner
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FINISH THE FIGHT - KILL THE PS3
I randomly ran into a forum once where people were arguing over toasters. It was awesome.
I don't console war. I have every system. I have a favorite one. It doesn't matter which one, and it doesn't matter if it not the same as some random dudes on the Internet.
I'm not sure if being able to afford every console makes you suddenly immune to console war though. People just love to argue about pretty much everything they can.
As little kids my friends and I intentionally arranged to buy (or "wish") different consoles so that we could play all games at each other's places. I never had the PSone but still got to play the important games. I think the real war started with online gaming when it suddenly became important to be on the same system as your friends.
PJV3
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excellent, did they use gifs?
I'm sure I'll end up owning them all, but I'd really rather not. The three consoles plus a SteamMachine (trying to get off Windows, it's trash), is just inconvenient, and wasteful of space and money.
Lets say there are ten Wii U and ten XBO exclusives the generation that I'll want, it seems stupid to own those systems just for so few titles, and I would be surprised if it's even ten on XBO.
I'm not a 'fanboy', but I'm pragmatic, owning four boxes is just not really worth it.
Lets say there are ten Wii U and ten XBO exclusives the generation that I'll want, it seems stupid to own those systems just for so few titles, and I would be surprised if it's even ten on XBO.
I'm not a 'fanboy', but I'm pragmatic, owning four boxes is just not really worth it.
I remember I said something that went like this "I wish it was only PC, Sony and Nintendo, so everyone can own all 3 or PC/Sony, PC/Nintendo or Sony/Nintendo. That way console wars would be put to rest" and then someone replied to me and said "console wars always existed, the Internet just gave it more voice". So yea I think the only reason we didn't see much console wars as kids was because of that and also probably because when we were kids and didnt know much about technology
Amazeballs
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Tribalism leads to drama. Like moths to a flame people are drawn to that drama and in turn are incorporated into the tribes. It's like an interactive daytime soap opera that writes itself.
NullPointer
Member
As long as things don't go nut I don't have a problem with the console war.
Competition is a good thing. And as we seem to be in a new age of locked ecosystems, subscription fees and bait and switch tactics to lure customers in and lock them down, its not quite as casual a choice in which platform(s) to invest time and money in.
Competition is a good thing. And as we seem to be in a new age of locked ecosystems, subscription fees and bait and switch tactics to lure customers in and lock them down, its not quite as casual a choice in which platform(s) to invest time and money in.
Console/arcade/game wars have been around since the 70s/80s.
Unless you were a kid well before then
I just never experienced it. When the grandaddy of console wars came about (SNES vs Genesis), I was in college and no one gave a shit which one you had.
When I was much younger, some of us had Atari, some had Colecovision, some had Intellivision. It just meant access to more games. *shrug*
Just went and looked up that thread, man you weren't kidding about Sony fans nudging away from the guy.
It most definitely doesn't make you immune to console war just because you own all or can afford to buy all consoles, I would say so anyways.
Garcia
Member
Really? I think the opposite is true. That, or maybe some are still kids living inside an adult's body.
Just as you do, I find console wars complete unnecessary and stupid.
I occasionally look into Formula One forums. It's the same thing; maybe even worse.
No gifs unfortunately, but the argument really got heated.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Its very strange. I was in a gamestop today and a grown man walked to the counter and said "what's coming out for Xbox one I don't do that PS shit"
was he looking for a reaction? Idk. I did find feel the magic for Ds for 99 cents though.
was he looking for a reaction? Idk. I did find feel the magic for Ds for 99 cents though.
petethepanda
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I don't do the whole console war thing myself but I get it. It's like rooting for a sports team.
I do tend to prefer Playstation (which I just now realize is perhaps given away by my Kaz-ified avatar now wearing an InFamous beanie), but a lot of that is because I grew up on a lot of Japanese games and tend to still be into stuff like that (though that's starting to wane; another topic) and because this gen their approach to indies and self-publishing and f2p is very much what I'm looking for in a console, but I don't at all dislike Microsoft, and tbh in the first few months of release I think it'd be better to own a Bone than a PS4 as it's simply better for media purposes. And being able to watch last night's Daily Show on Hulu in the corner while I'm playing a game on the same screen? Oh man.
I know a lot of people who are diehard Android or iOS fanboys who absolutely hate the other "team" yet never quite recognize that 99.9% of people using phones use them for the exact same damn thing regardless of which platform they choose.
I do tend to prefer Playstation (which I just now realize is perhaps given away by my Kaz-ified avatar now wearing an InFamous beanie), but a lot of that is because I grew up on a lot of Japanese games and tend to still be into stuff like that (though that's starting to wane; another topic) and because this gen their approach to indies and self-publishing and f2p is very much what I'm looking for in a console, but I don't at all dislike Microsoft, and tbh in the first few months of release I think it'd be better to own a Bone than a PS4 as it's simply better for media purposes. And being able to watch last night's Daily Show on Hulu in the corner while I'm playing a game on the same screen? Oh man.
I know a lot of people who are diehard Android or iOS fanboys who absolutely hate the other "team" yet never quite recognize that 99.9% of people using phones use them for the exact same damn thing regardless of which platform they choose.
gunstarhero
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Cause it's fun. I grew up during the NES/SMS era, and being a Sega fan, it was great to see Sega make some traction against Nintendo during the 16bit wars.
In general, its far more exciting to have rivals compete - even if you're on the losing side - its far more exciting than the alternative. I hate the fact that we see more cross-platform games these days... It's far less interesting and creates laziness across the board.
Xbone vs PS4 gives me hope for the good old days - but it'll never be as good as the 16bit days.
Anyone wishing for a unified console solution is a complete idiot - competition breeds the best foot forward. Look at EA and the NFL license if you don't believe me.
In general, its far more exciting to have rivals compete - even if you're on the losing side - its far more exciting than the alternative. I hate the fact that we see more cross-platform games these days... It's far less interesting and creates laziness across the board.
Xbone vs PS4 gives me hope for the good old days - but it'll never be as good as the 16bit days.
Anyone wishing for a unified console solution is a complete idiot - competition breeds the best foot forward. Look at EA and the NFL license if you don't believe me.
The 360 is a continuation of their efforts with Metro, that dates back to Windows Phone and Windows 8, both which doesn't feature ads. MS obviously saw the backlash with the amount of ads and scaled it back with the Xbox One.
But instead of praising for the lack of ads, your are criticizing for the possible future ads. That's something I'll never understand.
Anyway, I do enjoy console wars.. Always makes for an interesting read at work. But, even though I have both products and do have my favorite, I'd never spend days (or even hours) in a single thread, like many here, trying to undermine someone's choice of purchase. I tend to believe that we know what's best us, and see no point in trying to prove someone wrong.
Neff
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From tribes to religion to sports to videogames to internet forums - People feel the need to belong to something, or believe in. And it's doubly reassuring when the thing that the other guy belongs to suffers a setback in some way, because it affirms that you made the right choice and backed the winning team.
Yes, it's pathetic, but it's human nature.
That's just the drought talking from the looks of it. Malnourishment makes people crazy.
Yes, it's pathetic, but it's human nature.
That's just the drought talking from the looks of it. Malnourishment makes people crazy.
sechsterangriff
Member
It's not "War of Independence". But any company pulling that kind of bullshit shouldn't be rewarded in any way, and it should not be forgotten just because they went back on it. If they suffer backlash from the market then so be it and it's all the better if others take notice and adapt.
That whole issue went well beyond the typical system wars, from the past.
ChosenPredator
Banned
Sometimes i find myself getting drawn into it but when i think about it and read some of the comments from people here..im like damn the hatred runs deep, like one of the consoles took a life away or something lol
Real shit, at one point I couldn't afford every console. So I defended the one I had. I got into multi-console during the 16-bit era. I got into owning all consoles during the 32-bit era. But even in the 360/PS3/Wii era I found myself rooting for the underdog even though I had all 3. And depending on if we were talking sales, exclusives or just features my defense would flip-flop.
Now I simply don't give a shit. I'm married, working and just don't have the energy to care. I will say that I don't just shit on any fanbase or console so when the "general" consensus is that a console sucks and I try to find the positive I may seem like a fanboy. For NOT shitting on a console. Crazy.
Artist was blown away that I bought a PS4 and my wife and I couldn't understand why. I assume because I didn't join the circus.
Now I simply don't give a shit. I'm married, working and just don't have the energy to care. I will say that I don't just shit on any fanbase or console so when the "general" consensus is that a console sucks and I try to find the positive I may seem like a fanboy. For NOT shitting on a console. Crazy.
Artist was blown away that I bought a PS4 and my wife and I couldn't understand why. I assume because I didn't join the circus.
RealityPales
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The console war mentality is no different than that of a sports enthusiast.
I grew up with PlayStation, so that will forever be my console of choice - even if the competition is better, that's just where my loyalty resides.
I grew up with the Chicago Bears, so that will forever be my football team of choice - even if the competition is better, that's just where my loyalty resides.
I will never understand the hatred for "fanboyism"and the "console wars" - I proudly take part in it. Of course, I try to be as objective as possible which is more than I can say for most.
I grew up with PlayStation, so that will forever be my console of choice - even if the competition is better, that's just where my loyalty resides.
I grew up with the Chicago Bears, so that will forever be my football team of choice - even if the competition is better, that's just where my loyalty resides.
I will never understand the hatred for "fanboyism"and the "console wars" - I proudly take part in it. Of course, I try to be as objective as possible which is more than I can say for most.
What? People are having fun in a thread and making avatars. Mind pointing out the obvious shills?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I hate this outlook that all companies are evil. Yes they all are there to make money from us, but some do it in a more consumer friendly manner, some give more benefits to their customers and some offer better deals.
Every gen I always buy a PS home console (JP games + some of Sony's 1t party Ips) and depending on the exclusives a Nintendo home console. I don't see that changing this gen (dependant on how quickly the WiiU drops in price).
This notion that certain platforms re better than another is insignificant to me. I want to have whats best for me.
Every gen I always buy a PS home console (JP games + some of Sony's 1t party Ips) and depending on the exclusives a Nintendo home console. I don't see that changing this gen (dependant on how quickly the WiiU drops in price).
This notion that certain platforms re better than another is insignificant to me. I want to have whats best for me.