There is no way in hell that Lesnar will ever turn face, Wyatt turning face is more likely
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There is no way in hell that Lesnar will ever turn face, Wyatt turning face is more likely
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That's kind of the point. Monster heels have always been a Vince thing.
Barack Lesnar
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mechashiva
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Taker can't walk. He certainly can't bring down the beast.
Host Samurai
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Bryan to beat Brock or bust.
LMFAO at some of you guys suggesting Bray. Brock seems like he can solo his entire stable
LMFAO at some of you guys suggesting Bray. Brock seems like he can solo his entire stable
what a bad picture to quote with this statement
Bryan wishes he was as good as Eddie at anything
SmokedMeat
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Is Vince still running things? If so then he'll be a face within the year. Unless this is some short title reign, and they come up with a reason to strip Lesnar of the belt down the line.
Kano on the Phone
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What are you basing this off of?
Perspicacity
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So you don't watch the show but you're positive that your fantasy booking is going to happen and you think it's dumb?
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Bray is a in such a bad spot. He struggled to beat old man Jericho after losing to him once already. FANDANGO GOT A CLEANER WIN IN A JERICHO FEUD. He can't even hope to stand in the same ROOM as Lesnar.
And the whole "Bray doesn't need wins!" is such bullshit. Casual fans care about that. If you're almost always losing, it doesn't matter how cool you talk or how fun your entrance is. Nobody will care about your matches or buy into you as a character in any meaningful way.
Bray should've had steady midcard wins and Jericho, if anything, should've been his first major feud after the Bryan thing went bust the way it did. Harper and Rowan should've been tag champions.
WWE fucks up so much, man.
And the whole "Bray doesn't need wins!" is such bullshit. Casual fans care about that. If you're almost always losing, it doesn't matter how cool you talk or how fun your entrance is. Nobody will care about your matches or buy into you as a character in any meaningful way.
Bray should've had steady midcard wins and Jericho, if anything, should've been his first major feud after the Bryan thing went bust the way it did. Harper and Rowan should've been tag champions.
WWE fucks up so much, man.
SmokedMeat
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Decades of watching WWE.
Kano on the Phone
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But you haven't watched it in over a decade. So really you're just kind of basing it off the 90s? I'm starting to seriously doubt your cred as a fantasy booker, breh.
RandyBobandy
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Bryan beating lesnar :Lol:
If Cena and taker lost to him, it will be reigns to beat him.
Bryan will just be a jobber that lesnar beats on raw
You don't get to "most popular guy on the roster" without having charisma. Cena babyface promos =/= charisma.
revolverjgw
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The guy that ended Taker's streak and crushed a 15 time world champ... they're not seriously going to have Reigns be the guy to take him down, are they? I'm horrified to see what happens over the next few months.
In WWE, anything can happen.
Perspicacity
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Bray Wyatt is going to use dark magic to fuse Undertaker and Roman's bodies together along with mechanical parts and this wrestling colossus will be piloted by the ghost of Daniel Bryan to defeat Brock Lesnar.
It's gonna suck
It's gonna suck
Undertaker would probably cut his wrists in a sea of laser pointers on live TV again before facing Brock Lesnar in a match.
Kano on the Phone
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He's a talented worker with an over catchphrase. He still has no charisma.
He's a part timer. They pay him a ton of money to wrestle 3 or so times a year, and appear on maybe 15-20 Raws. He's never going back full time.
Makes -zero- sense to turn him face. As a heel, he can give credibility to people when they beat him.
Connecting with the audience is literally charisma. He's just bad at talking.
Yeah, that's why they chant his name all the time. Cos they only like his catchphrase.
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He's had an uphill battle with it. Every time he's given a mic and a chance it's fallen apart, aside from Kane's guiding hand with Hell No. When he has no mic, but it's in-ring only, he's managed to get over. Actually, he did pretty well with AJ being a heel. But face anything Bryan is Shitsville and a waste of everyone's time.
Almost everyone face in WWE is bad. They have their way of writing faces that always sucks. About the only good face right now is Ambrose, and that's because he's nothing like the others.
Cena, Sheamus, Reigns, Bryan, even Punk, they all had or have the same bullshit lamewad character as a face, like a template.
But mic skills are not the same as charisma. Undertaker is not really a great mic worker, but I wouldn't claim he isn't charismatic.
WWF traditionally has had monster heels that turned into cowards after facing Hogan/Warrior/Undertaker/Diesel/Austin/Rock/Cena. The only guy who's been booked as unstoppable for a while was Kane and even he couldn't beat Undertaker/Austin cleanly.
They've done nothing like Vader's run in WCW when he basically squashed Sting at first.
Kano on the Phone
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I don't think he is connecting, I think he's entertaining. Any time he tries to connect, it goes to shit, as Vince puts so eloquently here:
Well, sure, if you define connecting with the audience as actually talking then no shit this is your conclusion.
Kano on the Phone
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Well who among us doesn't remember the classic Stone Cold Steve Austin promo "staring at the camera wordlessly"?
I don't know what you think "connecting with the crowd" means, but a crowd so completely invested in a performer they turn an entire Royal Rumble and PPV heel because he wasn't in it is a connection to me.
I really don't care if you don't like the Cena "the crowd are great!" promos they give him and that he is bad at doing. A connection to the crowd is the one thing Bryan has more than anyone else in WWE.
SmokedMeat
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I see. I was under the impression he was now full time.
FWIW, they could always offer him more money to appear or wrestle on additional dates. His contract is just the baseline and there's always room for expansion.
The Silver
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I think Dean is someone who could beat Brock provided they make it an extreme rules match. They can have a story of him being the only guy insane enough to try and fight Lesnar.
Reigns is sadly the golden boy however and they won't push Dean like that.
Reigns is sadly the golden boy however and they won't push Dean like that.
Reigns to beat Lesnar with 17 spears.
Bryan has a different charisma; he connected with the live audience at shows well because he's a very typical underdog, he has an awesome catchphrase, and he puts on a show, as well as being someone liked by the hardcore fans (those who go to shows, for instance).
The thing with him is to basically don't let him cut a live promo off-script, or without someone to play against. I'm a giant Bryan homer (Seattle-ite), and I think he has a connection with the live crowds that few wrestlers have, but he is not a promo guy. His best promos tend to be playing off of someone else. Reminds me of Hall & Nash that way, they were ok by themselves, but they were awesome with each other.
I do think WWE has two good options (Bryan & Rock) as well as two possibly good options (Cesaro & Reigns) for who Lesnar eventually faces at WM.
The thing with him is to basically don't let him cut a live promo off-script, or without someone to play against. I'm a giant Bryan homer (Seattle-ite), and I think he has a connection with the live crowds that few wrestlers have, but he is not a promo guy. His best promos tend to be playing off of someone else. Reminds me of Hall & Nash that way, they were ok by themselves, but they were awesome with each other.
I do think WWE has two good options (Bryan & Rock) as well as two possibly good options (Cesaro & Reigns) for who Lesnar eventually faces at WM.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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So I just finished watching SS. Dayum at Stephanie's outfit. Like seriously, dayum. I demand gifs. Lesnar squashing Cena was nice. I kind of expected Cena to win it somehow right at the end like their match a couple years ago. This match pretty much went exactly the same as their previous match except cenawinslol didn't happen. A solid PPV overall even if the network advertising bullshit was in full effect. Enough interesting stuff to get me to watch Raw tomorrow.
Barack Lesnar
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How great would it be if it did end up being Reigns (it will) vs. Brock at Wrestlemania and EVERYONE thinking Reigns is going to win since he's the guy they've been feeding us and then BAM... Brock completely destroys him. Then the following night on Raw, Brock officially retires and the WWE title becomes vacant. Of course they wouldn't do this because it would bury everyone on the roster, and the title itself, but how great would that be.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't get the Reigns hate, but the Spear has to got to be the most tired finisher ever.
abstract alien
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Only if Lesnar tried the flip again.
The Internet
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Lets just enjoy this while we can, before Brock gets KO'd by a superman punch
They should make it more realistic and get a wrestler to punch him in the kidneys and Brock quit in the middle of a match (like he did in MMA).
Sibersk Esto
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Goldberg spoiled an entire generation
Kano on the Phone
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He gets the crowd behind him, and then he kills it when he gets on the mic. He can get almost all the way there, but he can't carry the full thing on his shoulders.
Total B+ Player.
funkystudent
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If they want to make Reigns "the guy" next WM they have 6 months to have him win people over.
Its not a Batista situation of some guy coming in and taking a spot. They have time to build. To make us care about him.
Reigns needs to work with some better people between now and Mania. Get him away from Randy "rest hold" Orton.
Its not a Batista situation of some guy coming in and taking a spot. They have time to build. To make us care about him.
Reigns needs to work with some better people between now and Mania. Get him away from Randy "rest hold" Orton.
When has he ever lost the crowd with a promo? Regardless of whether you liked it or not.
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