Batman: Arkham Knight Aiming for identical Res/Framerate Across Xbox One and PS4
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Windom Earle
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Not really, no.
Beer Monkey
Member
I LOLed at work, thanks.
What? Why shouldn't the aim to get the XB1 as close to the PS4? Diablo 3 and Destiny are on par aren't they? I don't see why it cannot happen. Parity could range from lets say 900p 30 fps on both, but some more AA or stable frame rates on PS4.
The differences are not day and night, more like evening and night.
Also lets not jump to conclusions, if they are gimping the PS4 then get mad, but nothing was said about that.
protomouse
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And that's why I didn't say anything of the sort. However, the "I paid a lot of money for this hardware, therefore I demand the very best experience possible or else these cross-platform developers can go fuck themselves" line of thinking is pure entitlement of luxury, nothing else. That's what I was implying. As you said, it has nothing to do with which version is "better" (although there appears to be a bit of both in this thread).
Don't read too much into it. I was merely referencing the fact that the Wii U has mostly gotten left-over scraps from third parties starting day 1, and is now getting nothing. If I only had one console, and it was a choice between either having a sub-720p game or having no game at all, I'd rather have the game (a.k.a. the Wii U scenario). And here we're arguing minuscule differences at best. I do own a PS4 and I couldn't care less if this game runs at 900p or 720p or whatever, if just for the sake that people who perhaps weren't well-versed in the specs of these machines won't have to look across the fence and think "why don't my games look like that?". It's fine. I really don't see the need to demand the best possible in life.
Besides, all of this is jumping the gun, no?
Poetry. 👌
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Developers need sales to survive. Plain and simple. Alienating the Xbox market would be a bad idea, despite hardware differences.
I want them to say something like "We're working hard to make the game the best it can be on every platform".
base shagohod
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Beer Monkey
Member
I'm guessing somebody from Shopto is on the phone with Warner Bros Interactive right now reading the fucking riot act.
Zombie James
Banned
And I won't give publishers who do this any of my money. Also very simple.
Hydrargyrus
Member
Second game I cross from my list after asscreed.
Well done Rocksteady!
Well done Rocksteady!
IndoAssassin
Banned
So it's easier to maximize performance on both consoles now than it was last gen. But they still don't want to max out both consoles. Lol I'm confused.
I wonder if Sony regrets putting in stronger but more expensive hardware into their console now. If more and more devs are going to do this, then Sony probably would have been better off having cheaper and weaker components so that they could match MS on price, because right now the PS4 is getting killed when it comes to price.
Won't that make it seem like the X1 has a healthier environment for 3rd party games? That's counter to the message you want to send right?
Regardless it will probably still sell best on ps4 because there's way more people who don't give a shit at all about specs.
By process of elimination parity means gimped PS4 version.
I must say after spending close to £1000 on both of these consoles it's getting very frustrating that one of them is hamstringing the other and denying me the best possible experience (on console) of some games
PC isn't affected, thankfully.
Since when is four (five?) games a trilogy?
That would be great if we make the PS4 Hardware 50% weaker! Everyone wins!
Wow, this isn't even the same situation as AC:U... You don't even have the information/context and what is parity here. What is wrong with people overreacting recently...
Wait until you know if the PS4 is being gimped, for all we know this could be same resolution and FPS, but more AA and/or stable FPS on PS4. You know there are graphical differences outside of resolution and frame rate right?
Jesus christ.... Hasn't even seen the game run and already jumped to that conclusion.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
1080/30 for sure
Gusy
Member
Expertly said. To me is almost as if 3rd party devs released PS3 games in 4 DVD's instead of taking advantage of the Blu-ray format, just to deliver the same experience across platforms. It just doesn't add up and spits on the face of those who patiently waited for the PS4 to be available so they could buy the most powerful dedicated games platform on the market.
Am I still going to love the game? Probably... But it still is a shitty practice from 3rd parties. I'll vote on this issue with my wallet..
alexandros
Banned
Yup.
I still think, if it doesn't exist, we need a (simple to understand) pinned thread explaining the difference between "graphics", "framerate", and "fps".
Those are all completely different entities. I'm not sure everyone realizes that.
You can have the same graphics, and have completely different performance/resolution results.
For example, you can have "high" graphics parity across the board (Texture Detail, Shadows, Lighing (AO), Post Processing etc.).
Then, you have non-"graphics" settings..like many AA options, Vsync, etc. Then you have resolution. All these things are separate entities. Having graphics parity doesn't even mean the same AA..or Vsync...or resolution. There are so many variables.
Those are all completely different entities. I'm not sure everyone realizes that.
You can have the same graphics, and have completely different performance/resolution results.
For example, you can have "high" graphics parity across the board (Texture Detail, Shadows, Lighing (AO), Post Processing etc.).
Then, you have non-"graphics" settings..like many AA options, Vsync, etc. Then you have resolution. All these things are separate entities. Having graphics parity doesn't even mean the same AA..or Vsync...or resolution. There are so many variables.
You know its not like you get one chance to preorder a game or something. And its not like if you cancel your preorder you cant still pick it up day 1. People saying they are cancelling their preorder or buying it used arent making some life altering decision you know.
RPGCrazied
Member
Hopefully that means the LE won't sell out at release so I can get one, if everyone is going to buy it used. Long as its not 720p I'm totally fine with this.
IndoAssassin
Banned
Hopefully this is a Steam only DRM game. Otherwise, I will wait till it's $20.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
At best. Game is pretty insane looking, so not sure it'll make 1080p. But, yeah. Pretending like they don't know what framerate they're aiming for yet is nonsense. It's going to be 30.
Man what the fuck is this? I thought we ended the parity parade via the palpable outrage following Unity. I assumed no other developer would be dumb enough to utter the word again for fear of a public lashing. Apparently that was attributing too much decency and common sense to modern game publishers. Mistake noted.
The entirety of last gen multiplatform games performed and/or looked significantly worse on one console yet this gen all the sudden "parity" is a thing being touted by multiple developers. Why now? Why is it all the sudden in this generation equal performance and appearance across platforms are a stated development goal? This is such total bullshit. Is this what we should all expect out of this generation now? That the console with significantly more graphical capabilities gets parity capped and underutilized on the biggest releases simply because it might make the other guys look bad. Whatever happened to developers priding themselves on delivering the best game possible? What happened to the idea of providing the best value possible to the consumer? This is not offering value to the consumer it's pandering to corporate interests. FUCK THAT! If you wanna short change me out of my hard earned money you won't get any of it. I WILL BOYCOTT EVERY MULTIPLATFORM GAME TOUTING PARITY! ALL OF THEM! You corporate brown nosers won't get a cent from me. NOT ONE SOLITARY CENT.
Oh and if somebody completely ignores how genuinely fucked up this precedent is and why I and so many others are furious just to say "but the gameplay is what matters" I'll put exactly as much effort and thought into my response as you did: none. So anti consumerist corporate enablers needn't bother.
The entirety of last gen multiplatform games performed and/or looked significantly worse on one console yet this gen all the sudden "parity" is a thing being touted by multiple developers. Why now? Why is it all the sudden in this generation equal performance and appearance across platforms are a stated development goal? This is such total bullshit. Is this what we should all expect out of this generation now? That the console with significantly more graphical capabilities gets parity capped and underutilized on the biggest releases simply because it might make the other guys look bad. Whatever happened to developers priding themselves on delivering the best game possible? What happened to the idea of providing the best value possible to the consumer? This is not offering value to the consumer it's pandering to corporate interests. FUCK THAT! If you wanna short change me out of my hard earned money you won't get any of it. I WILL BOYCOTT EVERY MULTIPLATFORM GAME TOUTING PARITY! ALL OF THEM! You corporate brown nosers won't get a cent from me. NOT ONE SOLITARY CENT.
Oh and if somebody completely ignores how genuinely fucked up this precedent is and why I and so many others are furious just to say "but the gameplay is what matters" I'll put exactly as much effort and thought into my response as you did: none. So anti consumerist corporate enablers needn't bother.
It's a trilogy for Rocksteady since they only made Asylum and City. I think we're all better off pretending the other ones don't exist, anyway.
Beer Monkey
Member
Jesus, can you imagine if Blizzard or Bungie had fucking dared to use the word 'parity'? They could have released the exact same builds of the games that so many play every day on consoles, but if they had used that word the number of basement-dwelling console warriors that would have thrown tantrums, canceled preorders, and declared their principle-based boycotts would have been fucking EPIC.
At least on message boards.
I completely agree...AK looks a hell of a lot more graphically intense though (so far)
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
"wrath of GAF" indeed. Some major overreactions in here. If you care enough, you'd be playing this on PC in the first place. lol
alexandros
Banned
GAF is an important gaming forum but core gamers that follow gaming forums are still a very small part of the general gaming audience. Simply put, we are not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Lol this made me chuckle.
I just don't like the overreactions and jumping to conclusions we are seeing here. They don't understand what context parity means, but hey lets throw buckets of shit everywhere because why the hell not.
Get those buckets ready if true, not like this.
RPGCrazied
Member
And lets not forget this game isn't cross gen. So they are just making sure the PS4/One versions are about the same, which is cool to me. Plus I don't care about framerate. 30 is more than enough.
Hmmm I care enough and dont play on PC.
Well that's some grade-A bullshit right here.
Some of us don't care to be part of the" PC master race", you know. Not due to money issues, but by choice.
franknbeans
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Sony to rocksteady: "you want this marketing money or nah"
Phat Michael
Banned
That made me laugh.