Batman: Arkham Knight Aiming for identical Res/Framerate Across Xbox One and PS4
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CyberPunked
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Rocksteady games always look phenomenal on PC. Batman Arkham City and Origins are still one of the best looking games on PC, looking much better than their console counterparts
farmerboy
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Pretty much.
I don't give a shit about parity, if it makes sense for the 3rd parties, then so be it. It's tough developing games and wether you like it or not, if parity makes sense financially then they should do it.
And the reason I don't give a shit about parity is that we still have 1st party to (hopefully) satisfy the graphics whore in all of us.
The Cowboy
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Petition what?, they haven't said the versions of the game will look the same across platforms, all they've said so far is that they haven't got the resolution or frame rate decided yet, but they are aiming for parity in that regard.
All we know so far is, they are aiming for parity in resolution and frame rate - nothing else has been said in terms of other visuals. For all we know the PS4 version could have better AA, better AO, better shadows, better draw distance etc, we just don't know anything other than something to do with res and FPS and even that so far isn't decided.
StrongBlackVine
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1080p or no sale.
Chaos2Frozen
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It's not bizarre, it's just Kojima having huge balls and doing whatever he wants.
I still can't forget the shitstorm from when he casually said that he'll show the difference in performance lol.
FunkyMunkey
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If I was a ps4 only gamer at the moment I would be pissed about this. I'll be getting a ps4 rather soon for exclusives, but PC version wins again.
Pathfinder
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That all depends on who you ask.
I think it would be perfectly acceptable, but I'm sure some others would cry parity foul.
Portugeezer
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fuuuuck (900p30 is my guess)
Has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe the console hardware just isn't as up to scratch as we thought? Obviously what we have inside these console is pretty damn good for an all-in-one box, but even with PS4's improved specs it doesn't necessarily guarantee 1080p/60fps.
Games are progressing way quicker this gen than before, most likely because devs are no longer shackled to such low RAM specs. Of course, such an idea will settle to an average in the future as developers gain more knowledge of the systems they are working with, but to expect amazing graphics and a solid 1080p/60fps is a bit far fetched right now.
I may be completely wrong on this and it might just be some sort of parity pressure, but if you really truly want the most amazing settings just go PC. It would cut down on the disappointment and you'd be able to enjoy things like mods and extended graphical settings.
Games are progressing way quicker this gen than before, most likely because devs are no longer shackled to such low RAM specs. Of course, such an idea will settle to an average in the future as developers gain more knowledge of the systems they are working with, but to expect amazing graphics and a solid 1080p/60fps is a bit far fetched right now.
I may be completely wrong on this and it might just be some sort of parity pressure, but if you really truly want the most amazing settings just go PC. It would cut down on the disappointment and you'd be able to enjoy things like mods and extended graphical settings.
DannyDanger
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I guess the devs are so wrapped up in making the game, they missed The Ubicaust
You're mixing up parity with 1080p and 60fps my friend.
Given the specs of each console true parity means holding the PS4 to whatever the XB1 can support. By default aiming for parity means not aiming to maximise PS4.
Not hugely bothered if results look acceptable but I am surprised we're getting all this parity after launch titles that set a trend for different performance.
Either devs have decided it's not worth expending extra effort on PS4 or MS has been getting persuasive or devs simply want to avoid all the fuss of apparently favouring one platform or a combination of them all.
There aren't many reasons to actually aim for parity outside of those.
FreedomFighter
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I said this on page three, but I'm betting it's going to be 900p. I just have a feeling.
I ranked what I believe is what's most likely going on.
Melchiah
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The thing is, they aren't favoring anyone if they use all systems to their fullest. They are favoring a platform, if they shackle another according to its limitations.
Quadraphonic
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It depends on the situation, but if this is another 900p/30 issue, then the PS4 can do 1080p/30 with the exact same code. That's not open for debate. The GPU isn't affected by CPU framerate bottlenecks. Resolution is almost totally independent of framerate. Two different things going on there.
I don't.
JayhawkerStL
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Honestly, I upgraded from my Sony Wega CRT because my wife wanted on of those thin TVs that weren't so heavy and easier to put where she wanted it.
Just like last gen, when the PS3 really did have the best specs, it's going to take Sony exclusives to hit those high marks for quality. Last gen the it was complaints that developers were not taking advantage of the blu-ray's capacity because Microsoft skimped on the their drive.
What developers are going to do is what the publishers feel will result in the most sales, or at least the most revenue from those sales. In this case, it makes the most sense to hit a benchmark that makes the game play and look great on the XB1 and then port to the PS4.
This was always the way it was going to play out. It is on Sony to provide the games that give you a level of performance that you can't get on the XB1. They did it on the PS3, and it will happen again.
The problem is, so far, they have produced a string a amazingly great looking titles that are mostly boring. Infamous is pretty darn good, but Sunset Overdrive kind of puts it to shame in terms of gameplay. Otherwise, Killzone, Driveclub, and Knack are not games that are going to make anyone buy a PS4, no matter how good they look.
Sony needs Bloodborne, The Order, and Uncharted to hit big. The problem is, only Bloodborne looks like it is likely to be great. The Order keeps being referred to as boring, and Uncharted'd development is rocky and uneven.
Graphics to not make a game good. And focusing on graphics over gameplay makes it harder to make a game fun to play. Developers focusing on the XB1 can concentrate on gameplay first, because that is all that is expected.
Forza Horzon 2, Sunset Overdrive and Ryse are strong games that look great. The one that got the most mixed reviews is Ryse, the one that looks the best. Ryse is actually pretty great, but obviously graphics do not drive impressions.
It's fun to read about and discuss all of the inside baseball in the games industry. But if it destroys your ability to buy a game and enjoy it because you think it could have been X amount better, maybe you should give the business section of gaming websites a rest.
Because if Batman is as good as the first two Rocksteady releases, it really shouldn't matter how much better it could be, people should buy it because it will be a fantastic experience, regardless of how many pixels are packed in.
This notion that buying a PS4 guaranteed gamers that multiplatform games would be better was a mistake, and the sense of entitlement in this thread is a little disturbing. I mean, hashtag movements, like it is freaking gamergate? Refusing to buy a game you assume is going to be great?
ArkhamFantasy
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Why didn't he just stop after saying that they haven't figured it out yet?
Technically I'd agree but I mean market perception and console platform holder relationship perspective where a difference between versions could be perceived as favouring one over the other.
Ubisofts comments, before they retracted them, regarding avoiding fuss were pretty revealing I think.
I guess you could argue parity is actually favouring the Xbox One in the current circumstances.
Zombie James
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If I buy a GTX 980 I expect games to perform or look better than if I had bought a GTX 780. I bought a PS4 and expect games to perform or look better than if I had an Xbox One. What's "disturbing" about this? Getting what you paid for isn't a hard concept to grasp.
Doctoglethorpe
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"all platforms" includes PC. I wouldn't read too much into this, sounds like typical half-baked PR talk.
Doctor_Thomas
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Considering everything we know about the consoles, it should be giving better multiplatform games and, because we bought a more powerful platform, why shouldn't the games perform better? Would you say the same about PC?
Spring-Loaded
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Can anyone explain this situation for me in terms of Batman characters
They decided that it would be more fair if everyone was Robin instead of only Xbox One being Robin.
bigboss370
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i see some people saying things like "why did they not just say it this way" or "why mention it at all"...
i for one want transparency and honesty from the developers for better or worse
i for one want transparency and honesty from the developers for better or worse
Doctor_Thomas
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It's like Batman from The Dark Knight Returns vs Bane from Batman and Robin.
Melchiah
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Well, the parity sure isn't favoring anyone else. No-one thought the devs were favoring the 360, when multiplatforms performed better on it. Everyone knew it was because of the complicated nature of the PS3 hardware (and the OS taking up 120MB of available memory). I don't see how games performing worse on the XB1, when it has a weaker GPU and less memory bandwidth, would be the equivalent of favoring the PS4.
JordanN
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Publishers didn't care when Wii owners got much worse looking games than PS3/360. It's seem very hypocritical to pick sides this gen.
Pathfinder
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I'm with you here. Rocksteady is one of the best developers in the business, they'll have my money. I know the game is going to look great, and if their record is any indication, play great. We don't know all of the details of this, and so many conclusions have already been jumped to.
It pains me to see the "buying used" people. Regardless of how this plays out, there's 150 or so people that put countless thousands of work-hours into making this game, and people here are actively looking to play and enjoy the game while not compensating them at all. If you want to vote with your wallet, buy it when the game's "new" price drops (or not at all).
Only now the playstation users are also buying an inferior version of the game.
Great advice.
JayhawkerStL
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You realize almost no one saw the shit show when Ubi said something similar, right?
PeregrinSe7en
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nobody could have predicted that before these machines were first unveiled
that would have sucked major balls had they gone the same route as MS. what would be the point of upgrading over the ps3 be?
i love this post. well said
gosh i absolutely hate posts like these. so lazy and arrogant. not everyone owns or can invest in a gaming pc
dude... i would kill to have to had the chance to pre -order that edition. sadly i missed out
if you dont want it, i'll take it
They clarified their statements several times, including today and you're telling me the marketing person for Batman Arkham Knight didn't saw this?
Is you defense is that he is bad at following the games industry in which he is supposed to serve his company?
EventHorizon
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There you go.
The problem isn't that the developers don't know what the final specs of the game will be. The problem is that their intention is to purposefully underutilize the capabilities of the PS4 in the name of parity.
I was on the fence about this game. I owned the previous two but didn't finish either. However the hype had gotten to me and I was aiming to pick it up. Since I was already on the fence, it's no big deal for me to pass on buying it or at best pick it up used. I aim to reward those devs looking to push the consoles to their limits and not just phoning it in.
Methamatics101
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I don't fucking get it. Where was this parity bullshit last gen?
HORRORSHØW
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do you go around every thread making dumbass troll posts? do you think you're funny? newsflash: you're not and your shtick is transparent.