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[Ashhong]

Yeah, and I guess a teaser trailer isn't really indicative of the tone of the actual movie. It just felt more like Interstellar (As others have said) instead of a movie based on the fantastic four comics. Although I haven't read the ultimate ones so maybe its fine the way it is if its going for that. Either way its a pretty good trailer for what it is and I'm actually interested in the movie now.

Maybe it's different for fans of the comics. I don't read the comics and have only seen the first movie. While it's definitely darker looking, and apparently the origins are different, I still relate it as Fantastic 4, as the basic premise is still there. If a random movie came out with a dude made of rock and another of fire, everyone would call it a Fantastic 4 rip off lol

The problem is that this angle is a horrible fit, and we still haven't had a good movie from the angle that made everyone fans of Fantastic Four in the first place.

It may be a horrible fit if you shove the comic into it, but as a movie about 4 superheroes, you can't possibly know if it's a horrible fit or not. That's why it's an adaptation.

 

[thehypocrite]

The first 15 mintues fo the Conan reboot was awesome

True. That kid was bad ass, then it had to grow up

 

[Shaanyboi]

The problem is that this angle is a horrible fit, and we still haven't had a good movie from the angle that made everyone fans of Fantastic Four in the first place.

I'm frankly way more interested in this interpretation than I am 'classic' Fantastic Four. Those characters have never resonated with me. If they can change that with this? I'm all for it.

 

[KalBalboa]

strawman? no one is saying this was a worse trailer than Ant-Man. i wouldn't be surprised if this movie is better than Ant-Man.

I'm not arguing that, I'm saying that this movie was universally being torn apart at every turn by GAF... then this trailer hits and it looks better than a lot of the other recent ads that have hit lately.

I'm far from a Fantastic 4 fan, but the endless badgering of this movie compared to the first real look at it is humorous to me. Comic book movie fans are a fervent bunch.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I beg to differ.

yeah but that's like, fantastic, and they're going for a bit more of a grounded approach for this movie.

I'm not arguing that, I'm saying that this movie was universally being torn apart at every turn by GAF... then this trailer hits and it looks better than a lot of the other recent ads that have hit lately.

I'm far from a Fantastic 4 fan, but the endless badgering of this movie compared to the first real look at it is humorous to me. Comic book movie fans are a fervent bunch.

it just took a long time to actually see something for this movie, and people just assume the worst when there is complete fucking silence on the part of the studio and crew. now that we've actually seen some footage people can start to form real opinions instead of just pulling impressions out of their ass.

that said, nothing actually discussed about the movie has instilled me with any confidence, but at least it does look like it's competently filmed.

 

[jtb]

In this golden age of trailer-cutting, that was an incredibly generic and uninspired trailer.

 

[Szu]

It feels like someone took the trailers from Birdman and Interstellar and threw it in a blender.

 

[KalBalboa]

It feels like someone took the trailers from Birdman and Interstellar and threw it in a blender.

...?

 

[Jarmel]

The problem is that this angle is a horrible fit, and we still haven't had a good movie from the angle that made everyone fans of Fantastic Four in the first place.

How do you know this from not watching the movie?

 

[Anton Sugar]

How do you know this from not watching the movie?

Yeah, I don't understand this.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

so do we think the "leaked" script details were accurate...looks like that stuff about a portal was spot on.....

 

[Ashhong]

...?

Lol I'm guessing Batman? hahaha

 

[pokeystaples]

yeah but that's like, fantastic, and they're going for a bit more of a grounded approach for this movie.

This made me laugh waaay harder than it should have. My coworker poked her head in my office. Thank you.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

How do you know this from not watching the movie?

Because it's practically the complete opposite of the source material so yes, it's a horrible fit. That doesn't mean it's going to be a bad movie, but he's completely right that a serious, grounded approach to Fantastic Four doesn't mesh with, well, Fantastic Four.

They can still make an entertaining flick in spite of this though, so we'll have to wait for a real trailer.

 

[Neoxon]

Irritates me to no end they can still use the Marvel logo. Because people will just assume this is related to The Avengers and go pay money for it.

Knowing this, Marvel whipped this up for use in their MCU movies from Thor: The Dark World onwards.

 

[robotrock]

Looks absolutely fine. It'd be great if the movie doesn't suck.

 

[Blader]

How do you know this from not watching the movie?

Familiarity with the source material?

If you make a dark movie out of a light-hearted comic (which are both extreme generalizations), doesn't that make the former a bad fit for the latter? Doesn't mean it'll be a bad movie, just not a very accurate adaptation, which is the whole crux of that argument.

 

[xandaca]

Abysmal. Like The Asylum remade Insterstellar, only packing in even more clichés somehow. Tim Story must be so relieved.

 

[block tower]

didnt look bad. didnt look good. meh.

 

[Moppeh]

It looks alright. Seems way too gritty to have a name like "Fantastic Four".

 

[Neoxon]

Familiarity with the source material?

If you make a dark movie out of a light-hearted comic (which are both extreme generalizations), doesn't that make the former a bad fit for the latter? Doesn't mean it'll be a bad movie, just not a very accurate adaptation, which is the whole crux of that argument.

This, pretty much. The reason why I love the MCU is because although they may not follow the comics 1:1, they are respectful towards the comics & keep with the tone of the source books (Winter Soldier & Guardians are proof of this, keeping true to the spirit of Ed Brubaker, Dan Abnett, & Andy Lanning's comics). While this movie could turn out to be alright, it doesn't look to be a good Fantastic Four movie or respectful towards the tone of the source material that I grew up on. And based on the F4 comics that I was recommended to introduce my little cousin, I don't think she'll see this movie as something that's somewhat like the comics either.

 

[Bold One]

Technically, it was a Uncharted film before Uncharted was a thing.

My brother and I were re-watching Sahara over the holidays and coming to the realisation of how Uncharted-like it was.

But for real, the best comic book trailer I have seen is the Infinity war reveal at the Marvel event, the crowd reaction really made it.

 

[infinit777]

I though it looked good, it has to be better than the old movies... Characters look a bit young though.

 

[jelly]

Looks fine. Not sure of the cast yet, the two guys have annoying faces but lets wait to see more.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Maybe it's different for fans of the comics. I don't read the comics and have only seen the first movie. While it's definitely darker looking, and apparently the origins are different, I still relate it as Fantastic 4, as the basic premise is still there. If a random movie came out with a dude made of rock and another of fire, everyone would call it a Fantastic 4 rip off lol



It may be a horrible fit if you shove the comic into it, but as a movie about 4 superheroes, you can't possibly know if it's a horrible fit or not. That's why it's an adaptation.

And people can criticize how a group of people chooses to adapt something if they feel like their adaptation doesn't fit what they see the characters as. It's a perfectly valid complaint. You might not care that it doesn't feel like the Fantastic Four, but there are people who are actually fans of it and don't want some re-imagining, especially when they haven't made a F4 movie that fits the tone of the comic yet and they think that the tone that the comic has had for decades could be made into something amazing on the big screen.

It's ridiculous that you'd put "Shove the comic into it" like it should be some kind of hassle. It's the source material, it should be representative of the comic. You never see people claiming that people who want a faithful adaptation of a book are "Shoving the novel into it." It should be like the comic, they wouldn't have bothered keeping the name and rights if the comic book stories weren't worth something. Instead they chose to adapt one of the least memorable FF runs.

How do you know this from not watching the movie?

Because it already looks like the exact opposite of what makes the Fantastic Four interesting to me. The fact that I've constantly heard that this is supposed to be a more "Grounded" take on Fantastic Four never helped, and this trailer looks to be following this exact line of thinking. Grounded is the last thing Fantastic Four should be.

Are you honestly telling me you've never seen a trailer for something and thought that the movie/game/tv show looked bad from it? I find it hard to believe. If a trailer has the ability to hype people up it shouldn't be surprising that a trailer can also sour a person on whatever they're showing.

 

[Dalek]

This, pretty much. The reason why I love the MCU is because although they may not follow the comics 1:1, they are respectful towards the comics & keep with the tone of the source books (Winter Soldier & Guardians are proof of this, keeping true to the spirit of Ed Brubaker, Dan Abnett, & Andy Lanning's comics). While this movie could turn out to be alright, it doesn't look to be a good Fantastic Four movie or respectful towards the tone of the source material that I grew up on. And based on the F4 comics that I was recommended to introduce my little cousin, I don't think she'll see this movie as something that's somewhat like the comics either.

Can you imagine if fox had been in charge of making the captain America films? He wouldn't have had his red white and blue costume. He wouldn't of been from World War II, most likely one of the middle east wars. And the Red Skull would be the head of some sort of pharmaceutical company.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Familiarity with the source material?

If you make a dark movie out of a light-hearted comic (which are both extreme generalizations), doesn't that make the former a bad fit for the latter? Doesn't mean it'll be a bad movie, just not a very accurate adaptation, which is the whole crux of that argument.

I think the "fit" is up to the director. I don't think an adaptation has to be a slave to the source material's tone. Plenty of great movies are adaptations of source material that had a different tone.

Not to mention there are so many different interpretations and variations of the same groups of characters in comics, it's sometimes hard to say "what" or "who" a character actually is. There's even disagreement among writers of the same characters(s).

It's a difficult thing to deal with. I think the only time it bothers me is when the director/writer makes a character worse or less interesting than the source material (The Amazing Spider-Man turned Peter Parker into a "chosen one" story rather than an "everyman" story, which is lazy and boring).

 

[Bad_Boy]

I think the voice was the black guy with the glasses in the trailer.

I think its the same guy from the wire.

 

[nephilimdj]

I dont understand why they didnt use a lesser badguy for the reboot, dr doom didnt work 10 years ago and most likely wont again

 

[Neoxon]

I dont understand why they didnt use a lesser badguy for the reboot, dr doom didnt work 10 years ago and most likely wont again

It's Fox trying to change the simplest of things with Doctor Doom. He can be an amazing villain if done right, the comics prove that. But nope, we're getting The Hacking Dumpster instead.

 

[Rymuth]

Trailer looked like a generic knockoff of Man of Steel's trailer...

 

[Dalek]

My brother and I were re-watching Sahara over the holidays and coming to the realisation of how Uncharted-like it was.

But for real, the best comic book trailer I have seen is the Infinity war reveal at the Marvel event, the crowd reaction really made it.

http://youtu.be/Uv2NRpG76Pg

 

[Shaanyboi]

I think the voice was the black guy with the glasses in the trailer.

I think its the same guy from the wire.

I think the guy at the end was Doom though.

 

[AwayFromInfinityx]

From watching that, It looks like sue and johnny aren't even related.

but its a teaser. looks alright though.

 

[Salsa]

honestly the cronenberg quotes got me excited and seeing this as a more horror oriented take with all liberties/bets off makes me interested. like just teenagers being terrified of weird shit happening to their bodies. we get so many superhero comic book movies now that I don't care for one every once in a while that goes in a different direction and tries to tackle the comics themes in a different light

I hope they go all the way

 

[Bad_Boy]

I think the guy at the end was Doom though.

I agree.

 

[Neoxon]

http://youtu.be/Uv2NRpG76Pg

I've been having a rough week in the real world. But watching this, knowing what's coming, I just forget all my problems & let my hype build for this behemoth of a movie. It may be 3 years out, but I'm not sure if my body will be ready for Infinity War. I need that shit in 1080p....no, 4K. Even if it's mostly reused footage, it's still hype.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

I think the "fit" is up to the director. I don't think an adaptation has to be a slave to the source material's tone.Plenty of great movies are adaptations of source material that had a different tone.

Not to mention there are so many different interpretations and variations of the same groups of characters in comics, it's sometimes hard to say "what" or "who" a character actually is. There's even disagreement among writers of the same characters(s).

It's a difficult thing to deal with. I think the only time it bothers me is when the director/writer makes a character worse or less interesting than the source material (The Amazing Spider-Man turned Peter Parker into a "chosen one" story rather than an "everyman" story, which is lazy and boring).

It does if it wants to be a good adaptation. But being a good adaptation isn't necessary to it being a good movie. It could still be a good movie in other aspects, but I can't see a way it'll be a good Fantastic Four movie. And since that's what I want out of a Fantastic Four movie, I'm probably not going to like what they're making.

 

[Dalek]

I've been having a rough week in the real world. But watching this, knowing what's coming, I just forget all my problems & let my hype build for this behemoth of a movie. It may be 3 years out, but I'm not sure if my body will be ready for Infinity War. I need that shit in 1080p....no, 4K. Even if it's mostly reused footage, it's still hype.

Actually, someone did recreate the trailer in 1080p as best they could:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HF9hsw_Zjk&feature=youtu.be

 

[Akahige]

That looks pretty good to me.

 

[Diprosalic]

Fantastic 4: Broadchurch edition?

 

[MrChom]

This looks very middle of the road....I think I might just wait for the reviews and then figure out if I should bother going.

 

[Dalek]

honestly the cronenberg quotes got me excited and seeing this as a more horror oriented take with all liberties/bets off makes me interested. like just teenagers being terrified of weird shit happening to their bodies. we get so many superhero comic book movies now that I don't care for one every once in a while that goes in a different direction and tries to tackle the comics themes in a different light

I hope they go all the way

That's actually a very cool thought-the FF are essentially victims of horrible body-horror nightmares. I want to say I did read some take on it in the comics that hinted at it-maybe it was Planetary?

 

[Salsa]

my biggest fear right now is getting hyped on the take and it ending up being just superheroes saving the world in a same ol formula.. which.. is pretty much confirmed ain't it

fox being worried about it actually hypes me up tho. here's hoping this is weird as fuck

 

[Screaming Meat]

Why is it so dark?

My first thought.

 

[BadAss2961]

Looks more like a typical sci-fi flick than a movie about the Fantastic Four.

Some nice effects though.

 

[Blader]

I think the "fit" is up to the director. I don't think an adaptation has to be a slave to the source material's tone. Plenty of great movies are adaptations of source material that had a different tone.

Well I don't disagree, and said as much in my last post. My point isn't in whether or not this is a good movie but in whether or not it's really all that faithful to the source material -- which, from both the teaser and what the people involved themselves have said, it kind of really isn't.

That doesn't mean the movie will automatically suck. But it does mean that people looking for a Fantastic Four movie that actually emphasizes the first half of that name for once are still going to be disappointed here.

 

[Anton Sugar]

honestly the cronenberg quotes got me excited and seeing this as a more horror oriented take with all liberties/bets off makes me interested. like just teenagers being terrified of weird shit happening to their bodies. we get so many superhero comic book movies now that I don't care for one every once in a while that goes in a different direction and tries to tackle the comics themes in a different light

I hope they go all the way

This. It being a good and interesting movie > good "adaptation", for me.

 

[Floridian]

Looks more interesting than ant-man. I'll wait for the official trailer.

 

[Salsa]

way I see it Marvel studios already does the straight comic book adaptations almost as good as can be, so if you have a marvel property don't try to beat them and fail, instead do something different and crazy

I think even xmen applies to that with the darker tone