The Formula 1 2015 Pre-Season |OT| The Power of Dreams™

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Ark

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They could still make an impressive comeback by Melbourne, just like everyone that wasn't Mercedes did last year :p
 

Nicktendo86

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Yeah doesn't sound good. You would have thought they were using these filming days to verify fixes they have implemented for the Barca test this week, sounds like those fixes have either not worked or are bringing up problems of their own...
 
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Well...

Fantastic car though
 

Nicktendo86

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Someone walking past manages to chance upon the McLaren doing some laps today and counted 6 laps in the brief time they were there so that 4 laps then gave up for the day rumour was BS.
 

DBT85

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Someone walking past manages to chance upon the McLaren doing some laps today and counted 6 laps in the brief time they were there so that 4 laps then gave up for the day rumour was BS.

My mum said her friends husbands sister saw them do 30 laps, so they'll probably get fined now for doing too many.
 

Pimpwerx

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What happens to all the technical data and schematics of defunct race teams? I'd love to read up about the research these teams have done. I see no reason they can't make those IPs public if they no longer use it to race. They'll still own the patents. PEACE.
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
That concept is horrible

Also, 2nd test begins on Thursday and some things should be clearer on Sunday. Mclaren is doing 2nd day of filming today, so this could explain limited mileage yesterday
 

Mohonky

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So apparently I am the only person that doesnt mind that concept.

Mind you I loved the 2008 era when the cars were aero everywhere too.
 

Staab

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The concept is pretty okay, I mean it looks very futuristic and back to massive aero pieces everywhere, which isn't a bad thing, but the "inbuilt helmet" is weird as fuck.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
So apparently I am the only person that doesnt mind that concept.

Mind you I loved the 2008 era when the cars were aero everywhere too.

I like it. Looks streamlined, fast. Certainly beats the abominations we've been seeing over the past years, especially around the front.

The helmet is of course just a drawing, concept cars always have impractical stuff like that because the artist thinks it looks cool.
 

Shaneus

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The concept is pretty okay, I mean it looks very futuristic and back to massive aero pieces everywhere, which isn't a bad thing, but the "inbuilt helmet" is weird as fuck.
This is about where I sit with it, too. The closer F1 cars start to resemble LMP1 cars... I have no problem with that.

Just don't neuter them further :/
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
So apparently I am the only person that doesnt mind that concept.

Mind you I loved the 2008 era when the cars were aero everywhere too.

I actually quite like it.
Looks quick, id like to see a 3d render of it though something which would give us a better idea of whats going on rather.

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Osiris

I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
That is horrific!
 
I quite like the concept design from the sidepods going back ... the front end just looks too busy though!

yeah, if the front was a lot less bulky then it would be quite decent looking.

The current design just doesn't inspire awe like old designs used to. I actually like the crazy aero days, at least that looked like it looked fast.
 

Orgun

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It looks nice but how would the driver look around? I'd hope the head wouldn't be locked in like that, relying on peripheral vision alone while racing sounds like a bad idea.
 

Jibbed

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As Autosport have pointed out, Ferrari's aero department had little to do with this concept. It's a marketing play, which is why they released it and RBR/McLaren won't release theirs.

Apparently the RBR concept was dramatically different from anything we've seen.
 
Honda says the competition would be jealous if they saw their engine:

http://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/motorsports/2015/02/12/f1_84/
snippets translated by muramasa

- I cannot reveal much yet, but our PU is quite innovative, to the extent that rival manufacturers will be jealous of it if they see it. You would think, "what? is it this much aggressive?", i reckon. Not only designing each component, but also package itself is quite innovative, using ideas that would make you wonder "how could you come up with this?".


- Of course aiming to be the best in both power and driveability is one objective. But not only that, collaboration b/w aerodynamics is strongly required for current PUs. It's easy to achieve high level of output and total power. But there's no point if the PU interferes airflow. So, we developed PU with total packaging in mind. We are confident in the package, and as a power unit alone, we think we managed to build it without sacrificing output level.



- The way of trying to find the point of compromise isn't good. We sought higher target each other, and not compromised each other. We demanded more and more from each other. Exchange b/w Mclaren and Honda was something like, "if you want that much, fine, I'll do it too" to each other. It's not that we argue and fight because we're mature/adult, but about technical matter we discussed a lot. Sometimes we requested sth strongly to Mclaren from us. In the end I think we could produce something wonderful, and the most compact car on the grid.



- As for Abu Dhabi test, that car was truly for system checking purpose only. Once we sent it on track, we encountered various issues like system not starting, noise etc. But it's something you wouldn't be able to know unless you make one complete car, so we think that was worth it. We are still having problems at Jerez, but all are minor. We could avoid having fatal problems at Jerez because we could go through rehearsals at Abu Dhabi.


- We encountered a lot of minor issues, so had to stop running the car each time a problem occurred. From 3rd day, we managed to make some sets of 5 laps, 10 laps runs, and the feeling isn't bad, car characteristic looks good. We haven't done any setup work yet, and other teams aren't making attack laps yet as well, so it's meaningless to think about lap time yet.


- Right now we're at a stage where we're checking reliability for the race, so trouble is inevitable. Encountering trouble itself is within the expectation, but where the trouble occurs is not necessarily so, so we're helter‐skelter. We found some parts that are weaker than our estimation, some even surprising to us. But what we're doing is development, so that's how it is, I guess.



- If it can last the distance of calculated life on dyno, it means it still has too much design leeway. That it doesnt break means there's still scope for more developmental possibility somewhere, more room for improvement. You can't win in such a way. It's a race engine, so there's no point in making heavy engine with a lot of room for safety/reliability. We have to be on the edge. Even taking current reg of frozen in-season development into consideration, you have to set the target high, otherwise you'll have tough time (performance wise).



- We've been developing it by setting such target, with mindset that we will make competitive car that can aim for the top. Each piece of puzzle that we gathered is fantastic, and now we're in the middle of assembling it. Sometimes some pieces dont fit well, so we're having hard time in some things. So it depends on how well we'll be able to assemble it in the remaining 1.5 months. We're pressured by the constraints of time, but we don't think what we've done is wrong, and we think we have to carry it through. So, I'd like our fans to be patient and wait and see what we'll do, a little more til Melbourne. It's a bit too early to be disappointed after Jerez testing just yet.

(fans have mixed feeling, anxious that it may be the repeat of 00s disappointment, and hopeful that it will be the rehash of glories of 80s/90s glory again.)

- The engine that was to be introduced for 2009 had enough performance that could meet fans expectations. So, staff who were in charge at that time must have been so mortified and depressed. Still, in terms of accomplishing the technical target, we could complete our mission. Now, we have desire, that we will go get what we have left, what we should have got in 2009.



- We do want to respect heritages like those, but meanwhile us doing it right now are looking at future, thinking of making new era. Result we achieved in the past will be meaningless unless we of now achieve success.
 
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