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[Yrael]

The 2012 Avengers movie was released in April (early May for the US) and came out on blu-ray in early August (September in the US). I expect a similar time-frame for Age of Ultron.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

The 2012 Avengers movie was released in April (early May for the US) and came out on blu-ray in early August (September in the US). I expect a similar time-frame for Age of Ultron.

Yeah thats what I was thinking pretty much. Just surprised we haven't heard anything yet.

 

[danielcw]

I went to the cinema yesterday to buy Ant Man tickets and Age of Ultron has still one show per day... Will be a long time...

When you say "long time", you mean what exactly?

Most big movies are on home media like 6 months after release, usually a little bit earlier.

And it is not uncommon for movies to still be in cinemas around 3 months in, or even more. So I don't see what Ultron still being shown in some cinemas has to do with it.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

When you say "long time", you mean what exactly?

Most big movies are on home media like 6 months after release, usually a little bit earlier.

And it is not uncommon for movies to still be in cinemas around 3 months in, or even more. So I don't see what Ultron still being shown in some cinemas has to do with it.

There were even boycotts here in germany because the new runtimes were so long.

 

[danielcw]

There were even boycotts here in germany because the new runtimes were so long.

Didn't some cinemas boycott the movie, because Buena Vista wanted a bigger share?
http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...ltron-boycotted-by-hundreds-of-german-cinemas

Never heard about it being about runtime.



But that wouldn't influence the Blu-ray release date

 

[Mighty Chin]

He really would have benefitted from the open mouth+red embers combi.

Even for just one scene would have been enough. In the shadows maybe.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Didn't some cinemas boycott the movie, because Buena Vista wanted a bigger share?
http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...ltron-boycotted-by-hundreds-of-german-cinemas

Never heard about it being about runtime.



But that wouldn't influence the Blu-ray release date

When they have the movie for three months in the cinema, they wont release the Blu-Ray on month 4.
There are gaps between homecinema release and cinema, which are also contractually ruled.

 

[Blader]

Whedon says no to director's cut:

It has always been my ambition never to do a director’s cut of anything, and always to make the movie with the studio that we both want to make. Ultron was very complex. There was a lot of back-and-forth. My instinct is no. Just as an artist, I’m super fucking lazy and that sounds like it would be hard. I don’t think there’s interest in it, right now. You’ll see a bunch of stuff on the DVD in extras that were meant to be there. But the narrative came together very close to the way that I hoped it would, and I don’t think it needs me to constantly tweak it. I feel you put something out, and there it is.

[...]

If I tell a story, I want that to be the story I told. Ultron may have some transitions that I’m not 100% on board with. It’s also one of the most ridiculously personal things I’ve ever put on screen. The fact that Marvel gave me that opportunity and supported it, I’m very happy and very proud of everybody that worked on it. I don’t feel the need to go in and fix. I feel like, there she is.

http://collider.com/joss-whedon-on-age-of-ultron-directors-cut-more-dr-horrible-firefly/

 

[Anton Sugar]

That's disappointing. I feel like a Director's Cut would address a lot of my complaints, but of course, that's just going off of stuff I am imagining they cut.

 

[Killa Sasa]

Boo-urns. That's pretty damn dumb but ya lose some, ya lose some I guess.

Still enjoyable enough for what it was!

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

That's disappointing. I feel like a Director's Cut would address a lot of my complaints, but of course, that's just going off of stuff I am imagining they cut.

A good movie?

Spoiler

but yeah, the pacing is bad.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Whedon says no to director's cut:



http://collider.com/joss-whedon-on-age-of-ultron-directors-cut-more-dr-horrible-firefly/

sadface

I think Age of Ultron would've been far better with a longer cut. Most of my issues with it involved it feeling like stuff was chopped up a bit too much.

 

[Yrael]

Whedon says no to director's cut:



http://collider.com/joss-whedon-on-age-of-ultron-directors-cut-more-dr-horrible-firefly/

Oh no. That sucks.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

That's sad because Ultron is a good movie that could be a great one, if the editing could be cleaned up. I love the film and was hoping we'd have something a little more cohesive to remember it by. What we have is just not what it deserved IMO.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

I thought they already confirmed a directors cut and alternate ending and stuff.

 

[Yrael]

I thought they already confirmed a directors cut and alternate ending and stuff.

That was an Amazon email, but it seems they jumped the gun.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

Huh. What a weird decision.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Meh. All I know is I can never go back to the theatrical cuts of Lord of the Rings. So I don't think an improvement is impossible.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

It seemed to me like Whedon totally phoned it in (not that he did a good job at all in the first one). I didn't expect an extended cut to magically fix things (though maybe help a bit with the pacing). This news is just confirmation that he really did phone it in.

Meh. All I know is I can never go back to the theatrical cuts of Lord of the Rings. So I don't think an improvement is impossible.

Fellowship theatrical needs no fixing. I once tried to watch the extended cut but couldn't. I didn't even try with the other two because I'm familiar with Jackson's overindulgence.

 

[Blader]

It seemed to me like Whedon totally phoned it in (not that he did a good job at all in the first one). I didn't expect an extended cut to magically fix things (though maybe help a bit with the pacing). This news is just confirmation that he really did phone it in.

He's a self-deprecating guy. He said often enough, and looked it, on the AoU press tour about how he worked himself to the bone on this movie. One thing to say you didn't like the movie or think much of him as a director, but I don't think it's fair to say he phoned it in at all.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Welp

(Man, this thread has still the GOAT Thread title)

 

[Scorpion Soldier]

Whedon says no to director's cut:



http://collider.com/joss-whedon-on-age-of-ultron-directors-cut-more-dr-horrible-firefly/

Disappointing. I liked the theatrical cut, but you could easily see the parts that were meant to be (and probably were) a lot longer.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

He's a self-deprecating guy. He said often enough, and looked it, on the AoU press tour about how he worked himself to the bone on this movie. One thing to say you didn't like the movie or think much of him as a director, but I don't think it's fair to say he phoned it in at all.

Maybe not the proper phrase then.

 

[Crud]

If he didn't phone it in then wow I don't see how he worked himself to the bone and the movie turned out to be garbage. Straight mess.

 

[whipihguh]

Disappointing, the pacing was my greatest problem with the film.

Have there been other MCU director or extended cuts? Even if a Director's Cut was a possibility, it's also possible that Marvel wouldn't want to start a precedent.

 

[Scorpion Soldier]

If he didn't phone it in then wow I don't see how he worked himself to the bone and the movie turned out to be garbage. Straight mess.

Working on a high-budget blockbuster with a cast this size is a hard job to do. Managing all of that is a terribly demanding job, so I've got no problem believing it took its toll on Whedon.

Disappointing, the pacing was my greatest problem with the film.

Have there been other MCU director or extended cuts? Even if a Director's Cut was a possibility, it's also possible that Marvel wouldn't want to start a precedent.

Only alternate/extended cut for Marvel is the Chinese cut of Iron Man 3, which the rest of the world really is better off not seeing.

 

[Mighty Chin]

It seemed to me like Whedon totally phoned it in (not that he did a good job at all in the first one). I didn't expect an extended cut to magically fix things (though maybe help a bit with the pacing). This news is just confirmation that he really did phone it in.



Fellowship theatrical needs no fixing. I once tried to watch the extended cut but couldn't. I didn't even try with the other two because I'm familiar with Jackson's overindulgence.

He didn't phone it in. He was tasked by Feige to trim the Thor Pool scene or eliminate the Hulk/Widow scene I believe. He kept the character scenes. How's that phoning it in?

Personally I'm very disappointed by this news.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

But you guys are right. Phoning it in is not the right phrase because he would have had to have done a good job on the first one to make the second one seem like they didn't try. They're both pretty close.

 

[Shaanyboi]

But you guys are right. Phoning it in is not the right phrase because he would have had to have done a good job on the first one to make the second one seem like they didn't try. They're both pretty close.

nice troll bro

 

[Mighty Chin]

But you guys are right. Phoning it in is not the right phrase because he would have had to have done a good job on the first one to make the second one seem like they didn't try. They're both pretty close.

I don't think anyone will ever accuse Whedon of being a great director that's for sure. His style is quite bland tbh. He did a fine job bringing those characters together. Now let someone else take it to the next level.

 

[Mengy]

That's disappointing. I feel like a Director's Cut would address a lot of my complaints, but of course, that's just going off of stuff I am imagining they cut.

That's a shame, I would have loved a DC with story gaps filled and pacing issues fixed. It's done literal miracles for many movies like Watchmen and Kingdom of Heaven.


Oh well.

 

[Lothars]

I don't think anyone will ever accuse Whedon of being a great director that's for sure. His style is quite bland tbh. He did a fine job bringing those characters together. Now let someone else take it to the next level.

I disagree Whedon is a great director. He brought a great style to both of the avengers movies. I think they were far from bland.

 

[Crud]

Bad script. Poor pacing. Should of been rewritten for sure. But they went on about it anyway.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

I'm excited to see how the russo brothers do.

 

[Mengy]

I don't think anyone will ever accuse Whedon of being a great director that's for sure. His style is quite bland tbh. He did a fine job bringing those characters together. Now let someone else take it to the next level.

I wouldn't call him a great director, but he is certainly a very competent one. His true skill is in writing though, especially when it comes to characters and ensembles. His style might not be for everyone but it is a great skill of his nonetheless.

AoU was just a little too packed for it's own good, it needed a tad more room. I still love it though and will buy it day one on blu-ray, but I'll admit it has it's flaws. Both CA:TWS and GotG are better written and tighter films IMHO.

 

[Dai101]

AoU was just a little too packed for it's own good, it needed a tad more room. I still love it though and will buy it day one on blu-ray, but I'll admit it has it's flaws. Both CA:TWS and GotG are better written and tighter films IMHO.

Let's see how the Russo bros. handle Civil War. Seeing the great job they did in TWS my hopes are too damn high. I'll easily put TWS over AoU, waaaaay above.

 

[Anton Sugar]

But you guys are right. Phoning it in is not the right phrase because he would have had to have done a good job on the first one to make the second one seem like they didn't try. They're both pretty close.

 

[jtb]

Loathe as I am to agree with Wally Pfister on anything, the Avengers movies do have a visual clumsiness to them, which I largely attribute to Whedon. Otherwise, as a director of big budget movies... I found the Avengers films competently and plainly directed. He won't take your 200 million dollars any further than your average director of a Game of Thrones episode probably would (though Terminator Genisys might disprove that theory) but he's not going to give you M. Night Shyamalan or late career Michael Bay and just throw all that money into a dumpster fire either. He's not the problem with these Marvel films, he's not the solution. He has far more personality than his films do.

 

[guek]

But you guys are right. Phoning it in is not the right phrase because he would have had to have done a good job on the first one to make the second one seem like they didn't try. They're both pretty close.

God, just shut the fuck up if all you're going to do is antagonize. There are more respectful ways to criticize someone's work.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I once tried to watch the extended cut but couldn't. I didn't even try with the other two because I'm familiar with Jackson's overindulgence.

This is mid noughtie's Jackson. The extended versions are almost unilaterally held as the better ones, especially for TT/ROTK.

 

[inky]

Maybe not the proper phrase then.

Definitely not the proper phrase. It's up there with "lazy developers" as the weakest criticism out there. I'd say borderline trolling, but there's nothing borderline about what you are doing.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

But you guys are right. Phoning it in is not the right phrase because he would have had to have done a good job on the first one to make the second one seem like they didn't try. They're both pretty close.

This is some shitposting others should be envious of

 

[Fuu]

TWS has the advantage of being more focused and having a tighter ensemble. Civil War will still be mostly a Cap story too, but come Infinity War the Russos will face the same problem Whedon faced of having to juggle too much shit at once. It will be very interesting to see how it will turn out.

I enjoyed Ultron even with its pacing problems. Whedon was definitely feeling burned by the end of it all though, I'm glad he's moving on and will most likely be working on something smaller next.

 

[jtb]

I wish Marvel movies weren't so ugly. That's my biggest criticism of Winter Soldier too—the stuntwork is a ton of fun, but the actual shooting and editing of those sequences felt like poor man's Paul Greengrass. When you use real stuntwork and choreography, I don't want it chopped up like a Bourne movie, I want it on full display, like a Wachowski movie.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I don't think Whedon phoned it in, but whatever his vision was, I don't think he reached it and I think he's dissatisfied by that. Maybe he felt a DC wouldn't do anything to solve that, you know?

 

[guek]

I don't think Whedon phoned it in, but whatever his vision was, I don't think he reached it and I think he's dissatisfied by that. Maybe he felt a DC wouldn't do anything to solve that, you know?

If I tell a story, I want that to be the story I told. Ultron may have some transitions that I’m not 100% on board with. It’s also one of the most ridiculously personal things I’ve ever put on screen. The fact that Marvel gave me that opportunity and supported it, I’m very happy and very proud of everybody that worked on it. I don’t feel the need to go in and fix. I feel like, there she is.

I wouldn't say he's dissatisfied. At least not on the whole.

 

[Timu]

Whedon says no to director's cut:



http://collider.com/joss-whedon-on-age-of-ultron-directors-cut-more-dr-horrible-firefly/

Insanity!!!

 

[GAMEPROFF]

We Marvel Circles. We discuss again how Marvel movies look like TV shows

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

God, just shut the fuck up if all you're going to do is antagonize. There are more respectful ways to criticize someone's work.

Where was I disrecpecful?

I said I was wrong saying he phoned it in

Definitely not the proper phrase. It's up there with "lazy developers" as the weakest criticism out there. I'd say borderline trolling, but there's nothing borderline about what you are doing.

Negative criticism/opinions of stuff many others love is often viewed as such while the opposite is not. I'm not writing an essay here, just stating a quick opinion.

 

[inky]

"Phoning it in" is not "negative criticism". It's not criticism at all, just a shit opinion with zero thought or information behind it. That is considering the work involved in making this project and the amount of information on said work out there. It might be the worse movie ever made and it's still inaccurate to state that.

No need for an essay to make a point, just a little bit of wit which you obviously lack.