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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT| The Man Who Sold The World
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They are repeatable.
Yeah, it's her. As I understand it, you have a random chance of running into her before the story mission that she shows up in. I haven't seen her yet, though.
ViewtifulJC
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I'm also really not a big fan of the single take thing for all the cutscenes. It feels very showy, contrived, and artificial, like its not really a benefit form using it all the time and it becomes distracting.
There's a lot of cinematic effects Kojima does in here that just feel like he's doing them because the tools are available, and not for a lot of deliberate impact.
There's a lot of cinematic effects Kojima does in here that just feel like he's doing them because the tools are available, and not for a lot of deliberate impact.
Yea wait till you finish chapter 1
And how is having an objective going to make this worse?
How is having a reasonable outcome to the objective you complete with something more complex than extract X or Y going to hinder the game's freedom?
Take a look at Farcry 3/4 for example, they give you a lot of freedom yet they atleast manage to make the objectives a little more interesting and rewarding even if in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter much. If I am to go and extract a dude, I need something more than 2 lines of dialogue at the end of the mission that makes me feel like it was worth doing that.
All I am saying is, that it gets old...especially when you keep going back to the same locations to do the same things.
Woffls
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I think they're just side-ops which you can repeat indefinitely for the purpose of extracting prisoners as staff members. I guess they're relatively skilled, otherwise it would be utterly pointless.
BossDarkseid
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Yeah, but I thought you couldn't miss her mission? It's a main op. ruins west of the power plant.
Yes but you need to wait until the story progresses to a certain point before she actually shows up. I did the same thing.
The Xtortionist
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No clue, but I would assume it would be greyed out in the mission list if he was considered extracted like the other specialists I got. Going off your idea, maybe his speciality "transfers" to another character in the mission? If it was greyed out in the menu, I wouldn't have even brought it up.
Iorv3th
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Mission 7 I got lucky and had a sandstorm blow in at the meeting site and I got 2 of them during it.
For the side ops I am about the same spot as you but I think one way to get them is to upgrade your intel team.
Pai Pai Master
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Yep that's what really drew me to Snake in the first place and made him one of my most beloved protagonists. I've always played a lot of JRPGs, Zelda, Half-Life etc games known for their silent protagonists.
A hero like Snake, who was opinionated and always spoke up when something mattered to him, was a very different experience in MGS1 and 2. And he often had some very insightful things to say about the world and humanity that reflected on me as a young person.
Big Boss is obviously a different character from Solid Snake but he was far from silent in MGS3. He was young and naive but he still spoke a lot, still asked The Boss a lot of questions about her own insights.
He still spoke quite a bit in Peace Walker too, though he did take more and more of a backseat to Miller at times.
I'm not sure why this has changed and why Snake is now a borderline silent protagonist, but I don't like it. Sutherland does a great job with the lines he has and the facial capture makes Big Boss even more of an interesting character to me. But there are times when another character carries an entire conversation with Big Boss and there's not even a response from him. Ocelot will directly ask him a question and he doesn't even answer. It's pretty weird and seems out of character. Granted I'm still early in the game but it just rubs me the wrong way.
Edit: he does speak quite a bit more in the cassette tapes. It's just kind of odd in the first few major cutscenes. Like he's pre-occupied or just absent despite things happening and people talking to him. Maybe it's just part of how they're doing cutscenes this time around.
Dangansona
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Not to add on to all of the people disagreeing with you, but ive loved the camerawork so far.
Chapter 11
You have Ocelot and Miller both arguing on the radio and BB is saying nothing despite how high the tensions are. Then Miller has armed teams meet you and BB says nothing despite Miller saying he won't let her set foot on the base. There's just nothing until he prevents them from firing.
Dangansona
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What were you using on them before that led to the gas masks?
More_Badass
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I wouldn't want the crazy amount of Ubi-style stuff, but I do wish more emergent stuff happened.
Death Metalist
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Sleep grenades would be my guess.
I was sitting in the chopper customizing my gear, and my brother came over. So I was showing him how I turned my guns and vehicles and base pink, and then I went into first person mode and said "and look at my silver bikini sniper friend" and as if on cue, moments later she did this.
Got a mini lap dance. This has never happened before, I'm guessing it's related to me having 100 rating with her.
Alright, this finally convinced me. I'm getting it this weekend.
MGSV Drinking Game
Take a shot every time the camera deliberately zooms or pans into the Diamond Dogs patch on someone's uniform
For me it's the
target practice ones on MB
YankeeDonB
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Man, I just jumped in last night. This game is insane. The whole opening is just bananas in possibly the best kind of way.
That said, having played only Snake Eater previously, the very fist mission shows I need to up my stealth game a LOT.
That said, having played only Snake Eater previously, the very fist mission shows I need to up my stealth game a LOT.
This saved me from having to type that much, I can't really disagree. I'm pretty disappointed overall, but like Destiny, the core gameplay is damn good.
Yeah, something like Miller on the radio telling you he got intel that there's a hit squad on the hunt for you while you are on the way to a mission. Stuff like that would be cool.
GMP to deploy.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Oh my god
Was returning to Mother Base with Quiet
while it was raining
and got /that/ cutscene.
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It was really cute though
Was returning to Mother Base with Quiet
while it was raining
and got /that/ cutscene.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It was really cute though
But why is it still presented as a new side op, meaning the menu annoyingly still includes it in the count of how many new side ops I have and it has that little circle besides the mission?
An example mission that is still white and marked as new after completion:
Prisoner Extraction 02
You have the same?
Iorv3th
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Would be cool to occasionally see rebels and the russians fighting or something as well. Or different PMC's etc.
I was going to asked this too. Thank you for the info.
This is a better version of Peace Walker. A game I love. I know exactly what to expect here.
Really liking Quiet, just got to
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Also love how natural many cutscenes happen, go off and do 2-3 side ops, come back to a cutscene and learn some interesting stuff.
Chapter
2 where she gets the kid's necklace and is interrogated. I knew it was her in the opening, surprised it took so long for it to be brought up
Also love how natural many cutscenes happen, go off and do 2-3 side ops, come back to a cutscene and learn some interesting stuff.
Shit, that's what MGSV is missing.
Even MGS4 had that. It would have been awesome to expand on that. Though I guess it would have been very 'Far Cry'.
GwyndolinCinder
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did you listen to the audio? You need to extract the truck befofe it gets there.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Yes, this. Oddly enough, ideas MGS4 was toying with would be far more at home in MGSV. The "living battlefield".
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MeisaMcCaffrey
Mission 10.
BobTheFork
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Oh, that works. I thought I would be shooting down something but yeah I've gotten by fine with c-4 so I'll try that, thanks!
It's sort of a game at war with itself isn't it?
I'd call this a masterpiece, but there are several aspects I'm not enjoying that much.
- As everyone's discussing, Big Boss is a defined, singular character who is not speaking when he should. In a way it would work better if we played our own custom-created character
- as much as I love the open world and the game structure, it's totally at odds with the story and sense of pace. We have a story which is compelling and pulls us through, making us want to see more of it – on the other hand you have lots of missions which don't advance the story in any way, even ostensibly story-focused ones which are even under the 'Main Mission menu'
I want to play tonight, but mainly I just want to see what happens next (on Episode 18 I think). However I know at least one of the Main Missions on my list might as well be a Side Op, and worse than that, I have lots of Side Ops to do.
It really pulls you both ways at once. What a strange game.
It's absolutely gutting that this isn't in the game, especially after Alienous (who's finished it) agreed.
In my first few hours I was literally thinking "if there are skirmishes/dynamic battles at certain times, this will be the GOAT. I mean, MGS4 had it so surely this will"
I'd call this a masterpiece, but there are several aspects I'm not enjoying that much.
- As everyone's discussing, Big Boss is a defined, singular character who is not speaking when he should. In a way it would work better if we played our own custom-created character
- as much as I love the open world and the game structure, it's totally at odds with the story and sense of pace. We have a story which is compelling and pulls us through, making us want to see more of it – on the other hand you have lots of missions which don't advance the story in any way, even ostensibly story-focused ones which are even under the 'Main Mission menu'
I want to play tonight, but mainly I just want to see what happens next (on Episode 18 I think). However I know at least one of the Main Missions on my list might as well be a Side Op, and worse than that, I have lots of Side Ops to do.
It really pulls you both ways at once. What a strange game.
It's absolutely gutting that this isn't in the game, especially after Alienous (who's finished it) agreed.
In my first few hours I was literally thinking "if there are skirmishes/dynamic battles at certain times, this will be the GOAT. I mean, MGS4 had it so surely this will"
Fancy Clown
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Omg yes. It would do a lot to add to the world feeling alive and the historical angle (and I keep hearing about rebels in the area but only ever see soviets), but it would add another cool gameplay layer by playing the sides off eachother.
I wouldn't be surprised if we would have eventually seen something like that if Konami didn't decide to shitcan Kojima Productions. I don't blame them for not wanting to explore that in MGSV because it's already a huge achievement for them to jump from MGS4 and PW to this level of quality and depth in an open world. But after they mastered the implementation and the tech, making stuff more dynamic with self-evolving battlefields would definitely be the next step.
Behold: the greatest obstacle the Big Boss ever faced on his missions
Can't go under it, over it or through it with C4. I tried following the ridge to climb up, but the way terminated to a chest high cliff that he couldn't climb either.
Had to call in a heli to get there even though I started the mission from free roam.
Can't go under it, over it or through it with C4. I tried following the ridge to climb up, but the way terminated to a chest high cliff that he couldn't climb either.
Had to call in a heli to get there even though I started the mission from free roam.
Open world syndrome for me.
Just got to Episode 3
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Absolutely amazing.
For anyone who has got past this point;
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Absolutely amazing.
For anyone who has got past this point;
This isn't the end, right? What's this Chapter 2 stuff mean? I've seen the credits and then there's that sizzle reel that seems to suggest there's still a LOAD of narrative still to come (some of which looks pretty damn tasty). I'm still loving playing the game, so it's wise to push on again and keep playing? And there are still narrative goodies ahead beyond just replaying missions and Mother Base?
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