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[swooshboy]

I wonder if the other unnamed prisoners in that mission are randomly generated and can be given the skill? Or are they unique like Malak? Really, why can your guys even die on Mother Base!

Agree with this!

I don't mind assigning people into different departments, but I had some fights break out, so got rid of the trouble makers, which then caused my levels to drop. Fair enough, I can replace them with new people, but it's an annoyance.

If you update the scope, do you get to identify who troublemakers are in the field, or do you only ever know once they are back at MB? My scope is currently Level 2

 

[Ralemont]

It's pretty amazing to think that after about 50 hours - by some way the most amount of time I've played a single player game in ages - there's still so much ahead.

MGSV definitely has a few flaws, but honestly.. I really do feel like this is once in a generation level stuff. It frequently reminds me how incredible it really is. Phenomenal game on several levels.

I agree. Overall I think the jump to open world has benefited Metal Gear far more than it has harmed it. It's not perfect and no game is (after my inital exploration story, I've come to the conclusion that this open world is not meant to explored so much as scanned for tactical advantages and spacing out outposts), but I honestly think this ranks up there as the best gameplay I've ever experienced. I'm also perhaps exposing my belief that the other Metal Gears had too many cutscenes, but after about 12 hours I think the amount of story content is fine. Between the main missions (Ep 6 yo), tapes, and bizarre optional cutscene(s) at Mother Base, there's definitely enough to keep me interested. And I haven't even met Quiet yet!

 

[Toa TAK]

This honey bee mission can fuck off

No way, the Honey Bee mission is one of my favorites. Fun infiltration and fight.

 

[daveo42]

I'm more bothered about the fact that -I- can die on Motherbase just exploring it. What the fuck! Lol.

Had a friend at work who died messing around at Mother Base right after getting there. Fell off into the water and that was it. You'd think Big Boss would, you know, at least be able to swim or in the very least have his crew help him out of the water.

 

[EatChildren]

Also hearing that people are losing their top notch crew doesn't bode well for me. I guess I'll only be logging in for the daily rewards and disconnecting from the server. Hated being invaded in souls games and I'm sure I'll hate it even more now.

I'm pretty sure it only applies to FOBs. Only crew assigned to or played on FOBs are vulnerable. Mother Base staff should be fine.

 

[Kama_1082]

No Kojima, no MGS for me. I will miss his crazy ideas. I'm sure Konami will keep making MG games since they were already hiring for a new team. It would have been nice if MGSV wasn't on PS3/360, kinda like

Spoiler

Destiny

lol

There's really nothing that I see in TPP that was held back due to ps3/360 versions. Other than some pop in, its plays perfectly on my PS4

 

[firehawk12]

Agree with this!

I don't mind assigning people into different departments, but I had some fights break out, so got rid of the trouble makers, which then caused my levels to drop. Fair enough, I can replace them with new people, but it's an annoyance.

If you update the scope, do you get to identify who troublemakers are in the field, or do you only ever know once they are back at MB? My scope is currently Level 2

Mine is only level 3 so all it added was marking... the skills are still ???? when I try to analyze soldiers.

I'm pretty sure it only applies to FOBs. Only crew assigned to or played on FOBs are vulnerable. Mother Base staff should be fine.

Violent members seem to have a chance to kill your crew, unless Malak dying is some kind of story event or something. His status is "Fatally wounded" instead of KIA like the operatives that die on combat missions, for example.

 

[Auto_aim1]

What if a translator dies on the Motherbase? Lol.

 

[maniac-kun]

Install screen for 10 min now :/

 

[JTripper]

20 hours in...MGS5 really is 2014's Destiny. The similarities are staggering.

+AMAZING play mechanics, feels great to play when the action starts
+Looks really nice, although clearly cross-gen

-Open World is really a few walled off linear hot spots used for main missions and filler "free roam" missions, with resources to collect. Areas you think you can traverse, ya can't. Its a hassle getting from one side to the other. No NPCs, villages, anything particularly interesting or notable.

-You spend a lot of time sitting in loading screens after you extract from every mission. Your ship takes you back to the hub base, until you realize its horrifically boring with maybe 2 activities and you can't interact with anybody, so you go back to the loading screen ship.

-There's not a whole lot of narrative momentum or structure, you can play for hours and not really have much of an emotional investment in any of the world or its characters. Main character feels like an avatar and not a person. You do "main" missions thinking they'll advance the plot, and not only are they very similar to the filler missions, but it feels like nothing you did mattered anyway. Just another chore taking care of.

-There's a big grinding metagame they attached to it, so you're always on the lookout to collect a hundred different things to build yourself up and micromanage various components of your loadout. IDK, they felt this was a needed evolution over the old games where you just played it and found cool shit in the world. Now they make you grind for it.

Can't wait for the expansion next year that makes MGS5 a great game

As much as I want to say "you're wrong, MGS5 is great!", I can't really disagree with most of your points.

With that said, I still play Destiny a ton and I'm having a lot of fun just playing Phantom Pain, criticisms aside.

I also got way bored with helicopter extractions. I feel like loading screens are becoming more unacceptable in current gen and I'm peeved every time I have to extract in a helicopter without having the ability to just have the copter pick me up and drop me someplace else without any unnecessary delay. You can do that on mother base, but even that's ridiculous because the copter decides to fly fucking laps around mother base before actually dropping you on the pad you want.

It's not really a big complaint, and I predict there'll be more options as I get further in the game, like extracting on a fulton'd storage container and such, but jesus can the copter just cut the bullshit and bring me where I want to go?

 

[Xater]

I wish the servers were working so I could get my FOB. I want to send out more troops...

 

[Shinigami]

To be fair, Big Boss was never as talkative as Solid Snake.

I do think the voices aren't distinctive enough, though. Miller and Ocelot sound the same sometimes, and Kiefer doesn't do a great job standing out either.

Watching my brother play Peace Walker, well... it's night and day. He had a lot of dialogue, but you are correct. It's still a major difference in TPP.

 

[Shinjica]

I assumed

Spoiler

it was a Fight Club scenario, where he was hallucinating but was actually doing so that stuff. But there were so many moments where that wouldn't make sense

Spoiler

it is more simpler than that

 

[Formless]

I hope that future MGS games aren't always open world like this one is, or at least that they have scenarios similar to the older games as well.

 

[firehawk12]

Also hearing that people are losing their top notch crew doesn't bode well for me. I guess I'll only be logging in for the daily rewards and disconnecting from the server. Hated being invaded in souls games and I'm sure I'll hate it even more now.

Well, some people are just putting trouble makers as guards on their FOB, which means they're completely disposable anyway and you have a chance to troll an invader if they try to steal them from you. lol

 

[Veritigo_X]

I hope that future MGS games aren't always open world like this one is, or at least that they have scenarios similar to the older games as well.

Tactical Pachinko Action

 

[Kid Ska]

I'm more bothered about the fact that -I- can die on Motherbase just exploring it. What the fuck! Lol.

I've fallen to my death so many times climbing around MB....

 

[LiK]

the online is fucking annoying. it makes loading longer for the damn menu or when I'm loading into a mission. when I was offline because of server errors, it would load super fast. I might just go offline for good if this loading garbage keeps up.

 

[EatChildren]

Violent members seem to have a chance to kill your crew, unless Malak dying is some kind of story event or something. His status is "Fatally wounded" instead of KIA like the operatives that die on combat missions, for example.

BURIAL AT SEA

 

[Bumhead]

I agree. Overall I think the jump to open world has benefited Metal Gear far more than it has harmed it. It's not perfect and no game is (after my inital exploration story, I've come to the conclusion that this open world is not meant to explored so much as scanned for tactical advantages and spacing out outposts), but I honestly think this ranks up there as the best gameplay I've ever experienced. I'm also perhaps exposing my belief that the other Metal Gears had too many cutscenes, but after about 12 hours I think the amount of story content is fine. Between the main missions (Ep 6 yo), tapes, and bizarre optional cutscene(s) at Mother Base, there's definitely enough to keep me interested. And I haven't even met Quiet yet!

Aye. To be honest I think the balance between gameplay and story was fine. There's never been more game in an MGS before, but those story threads, the narrative direction, even the crazy Kojima cutscenes are still here. I really, really hope those who say stuff such as "Silent Snake" in response to the lack of them in the early going stick with the game. I think what they're after is still here. And I say that having - apparently - only still seen part of it myself.

 

[SkylineRKR]

the online is fucking annoying. it makes loading longer for the damn menu or when I'm loading into a mission. when I was offline because of server errors, it would load super fast. I might just go offline for good if this loading garbage keeps up.

Yeah its annoying as fuck.

Also the FOB tuts and messages etc. Honestly, I just manually disconnected. Its better that way.

 

[firehawk12]

What if a translator dies on the Motherbase? Lol.

Suddenly you can't interrogate guards anymore??

 

[AusRoachman]

Does my blue camo in afghanistan actually affect how easy your are spotted?

 

[The Inventor]

I just shot someone in the head and stole his Kim Wilde tape and now my helicopter plays it every time it comes to pick me up, in remembrance of a brave solider.

This game is OK.

Love is in the details.

 

[Timeaisis]

How the hell do you get to the top of the R&D platform? lol

 

[Kid Ska]

How the hell do you get to the top of the R&D platform? lol

There's a way but it's easiest just to ride the chopper to the top helipad

 

[SkylineRKR]

Mine is only level 3 so all it added was marking... the skills are still ???? when I try to analyze soldiers.


Violent members seem to have a chance to kill your crew, unless Malak dying is some kind of story event or something. His status is "Fatally wounded" instead of KIA like the operatives that die on combat missions, for example.

In my game he has no status at all. Just an empty bar. wtf.

 

[duckroll]

I've fallen to my death so many times climbing around MB....

Once, I fell so far I broke my leg but I didn't die. Lost 30 Heroism. Insult to injury. I just imagine all the soldiers who saw it laughing at me. "Did you see Big Boss fall and break his leg climbing that pipe?!"

 

[TheStruggler]

Only on XB1

If i remember correctly soldiers can use decoys as well, that was one of the fake decoys you shot

 

[Auto_aim1]

Suddenly you can't interrogate guards anymore??

Duh

--

If you read/listen to Kojima's old interviews, he always wanted to make a game like MGSV but couldn't due to hardware limitations/other stuff. This review by Simon Parkin--a fantastic journo btw--nails it.

This is the final evolution of a video game director’s singular vision, one first painted in the crude pixels of the 1980s and now fully realised, fully resplendent.

 

[BobTheFork]

It's weird since many of the same combat mechanics were in Ground zeroes but I feel like I'm able to deal with the stealth much easier.

The reflex is a great idea (even if you want to avoid it). I'm just tearing around the world and dealing Diamond justice. I haven't really gotten to the point where enemies are reacting with gear or tactics so I'm sure that will change things but I'm sooo much happier with just the minute to minute gameplay. I don't feel like I have to restart if I'm seen.

That will probably change if I try to get S ranks but I've gotten A or B on every mission and getting seen maybe once at most. Those mission objective will probably be a bitch but I'm not worrying about it yet.

 

[MegaSackman]

Aye. To be honest I think the balance between gameplay and story was fine. There's never been more game in an MGS before, but those story threads, the narrative direction, even the crazy Kojima cutscenes are still here. I really, really hope those who say stuff such as "Silent Snake" in response to the lack of them in the early going stick with the game. I think what they're after is still here. And I say that having - apparently - only still seen part of it myself.

I'm one of those (finished mission 6 last night) and is just a minor thing for me, besides I'm pro Solid Snake so I don't mind if Big Boss doesn't talk, he has nothing interesting to say most of the time. -_-
Game is fantastic and I'll play it until the very end playing most if not all missions.

 

[LiK]

just curious, does the Xbox One version have all the Sony branding for the Walkman and tapes?

 

[tariniel]

I did Mission 6: Honey Bee last night for the first time and... wow.

Spoiler

I did it 100% stealth until right at the very end. I can't even imagine how you can stealth and also rescue that prisoner/hostage. I got semi-close and then he got executed. There are SO MANY guards in that last spot that you probably have to rescue him before they take him into those ruins. I also can't imagine how you can S rank this with stealth either. Anyone know of a video of someone doing it? I saw an S rank video but the guy seemed to just run&gun most of it.

At the end of the mission to took me an 1 hour 6 minutes and I got a B rank/octopus.

 

[Shinigami]

just curious, does the Xbox One version have all the Sony branding for the Walkman and tapes?

That it does.

 

[SomTervo]

The show must go on. The series didn't stop when hayter was shit canned. It won't stop either with kojima gone too.

That wasn't the indication we had before that PR guy came forward. Before that the line was 'Konami are focussing on gambling and mobile games'.

Then the instant MGSV is a success: 'MGSV WILL GO ON! WE VALUE THE SERIES! KONAMI ARE DEDICATED!'

Such two-faced bullshit.

I'm sure MGS will continue. I just feel evolving MGSV with "living battlefield" ideas is something I'd expect from KojiPro. A new team? Who knows.

Fully agreed – just got the impression you weren't aware of that development!

 

[tamaster92]

Just got a message from Miller saying mother base is under attack, and a strut is taken over so I should head back, I went straight back and...

There is nothing here :/ no missions, no cutscene, nothing.

What gives?

 

[raven777]

the checkpoint is really annoying... Over an hour and 10 Fultoned soldiers gone.

 

[SomTervo]

Once, I fell so far I broke my leg but I didn't die. Lost 30 Heroism. Insult to injury. I just imagine all the soldiers who saw it laughing at me. "Did you see Big Boss fall and break his leg climbing that pipe?!"

This is why all the Mother Base stuff is important.

It adds context. Context to your actions, context to the story... Context to everything you see and do.

Just got a message from Miller saying

Spoiler

mother base is under attack, and a strut is taken over so I should head back, I went straight back and...

There is nothing here :/ no missions, no cutscene, nothing.

What gives?

A) this sounds like a spoiler, please spoiler-tag. I'm 30 hours in and this hasn't happened.

B) It could be your Forward Operating Base that's under attack by an intruder. If you're that far and have unlocked it.

 

[maniac-kun]

Just got a message from Miller saying mother base is under attack, and a strut is taken over so I should head back, I went straight back and...

There is nothing here :/ no missions, no cutscene, nothing.

What gives?

Maybe he is a double agent.

 

[cackhyena]

That wasn't the indication we had before that PR guy came forward. Before that the line was 'Konami are focussing on gambling and mobile games'.

Then the instant MGSV is a success: 'MGSV WILL GO ON! WE VALUE THE SERIES! KONAMI ARE DEDICATED!'

Such two-faced bullshit.



Fully agreed – just got the impression you weren't aware of that development!

They had already said MGS would continue before the PR guy.

 

[Tacitus_]

I'm pretty sure it only applies to FOBs. Only crew assigned to or played on FOBs are vulnerable. Mother Base staff should be fine.

You can definitely lose staff from Mother Base. Combat dispatches have a small chance to kill your staff and some of mine died while in the med bay.

 

[BannedEpisode]

How long does it take for DD to grow from a diamond pup into a diamond dog?

Also every time I fly away on my helicopter I tranq him and he flops over. Sweet dreams!

 

[Ralemont]

I did Mission 6: Honey Bee last night for the first time and... wow.

Spoiler

I did it 100% stealth until right at the very end. I can't even imagine how you can stealth and also rescue that prisoner/hostage. I got semi-close and then he got executed. There are SO MANY guards in that last spot that you probably have to rescue him before they take him into those ruins. I also can't imagine how you can S rank this with stealth either. Anyone know of a video of someone doing it? I saw an S rank video but the guy seemed to just run&gun most of it.

At the end of the mission to took me an 1 hour 6 minutes and I got a B rank/octopus.

I just waited until they took him back into the ruins, then I threw a smoke grenade and went in and fucked the three of them up. Picked up the dude, went back out and fulton'd him.

 

[Wozzer]

20 hours in...MGS5 really is 2014's Destiny. The similarities are staggering.

+AMAZING play mechanics, feels great to play when the action starts
+Looks really nice, although clearly cross-gen

-Open World is really a few walled off linear hot spots used for main missions and filler "free roam" missions, with resources to collect. Areas you think you can traverse, ya can't. Its a hassle getting from one side to the other. No NPCs, villages, anything particularly interesting or notable.

-You spend a lot of time sitting in loading screens after you extract from every mission. Your ship takes you back to the hub base, until you realize its horrifically boring with maybe 2 activities and you can't interact with anybody, so you go back to the loading screen ship.

-There's not a whole lot of narrative momentum or structure, you can play for hours and not really have much of an emotional investment in any of the world or its characters. Main character feels like an avatar and not a person. You do "main" missions thinking they'll advance the plot, and not only are they very similar to the filler missions, but it feels like nothing you did mattered anyway. Just another chore taking care of.

-There's a big grinding metagame they attached to it, so you're always on the lookout to collect a hundred different things to build yourself up and micromanage various components of your loadout. IDK, they felt this was a needed evolution over the old games where you just played it and found cool shit in the world. Now they make you grind for it.

Can't wait for the expansion next year that makes MGS5 a great game

I want to disagree... but those are some reasonable points.

 

[BannedEpisode]

How long does it take for DD to grow from a diamond pup into a diamond dog?

Also every time I fly away on my helicopter I tranq him and he flops over. Sweet dreams!

Or are there requirements?

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Shit, seems that once

Spoiler

Malak

is dead you've lost the skill for good, even if you replay the mission

Least I know now not to Deploy any of my staff with unique skills

 

[SomTervo]

They had already said MGS would continue before the PR guy.

Then I'm wrong and take it all back.

I do have a vague memory of such a statement, but wasn't is from over a year ago and before all the shit with KojiPro + statements from CEO?

 

[AusRoachman]

I just waited until they took him back into the ruins, then I threw a smoke grenade and went in and fucked the three of them up. Picked up the dude, went back out and fulton'd him.

I did the same, fultoned him out of the hole in the cave roof.

Everything turned to shit after that though and dhorse saved my ass.

 

[Tiktaalik]

You can turn off auto assign

how do I do this?