SPOILER: Spoiler Metal Gear Solid V (TPS) Spoiler Thread (Contains Spoilers, Thanos).

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giancarlo123x said:
It wasn't the worst thing but Holy shit it was a terrible design decision to make you redo the same exact parts you did in the beginning all over again even with the tutorial like you haven't been playing for 40 hours at least already. Once they showed the revelation that you had plastic surgery skip straight to the ambulance scene. Shit the whole mission could've been a cutscene. It was just padding.
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Aye, I will agree with that. No need to replay the whole section, and really no need to force the player though funky repeats of older missions. Losing Quiet is also a bad design choice. I'd like to play the game again, concentrating only on the missions that are critical to the story (thus cutting out the filler), but can't because for some missions I'll want to take Quiet with me, but she's gone. :/
 
I'm very disappointed that you don't get this dog model for d-dog

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Lemonte said:
I'm very disappointed that you don't get this dog model for d-dog

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Its sad that the only time you see that dog is in the ground zeroes intro. Also why in the hell don't enemies have dog units to sniff you out?? Mgs3 had this and it would fit this game even better. I think it would be a good counter for bringing DD along since a dog would smell it from far away.
 
I have like 50% of side ops done... Is the other half going to be the same shit? How sad that GZ's side ops, a glorified demo, are better than this shit.
 
jett said:
I have like 50% of side ops done... Is the other half going to be the same shit? How sad that GZ's side ops, a glorified demo, are better than this shit.
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Lol GZ's side ops were called side ops, but they pretty much functioned as missions. Side ops in MGSV are wholly different. Just cuz the naming is the same doesn't mean they function the same way.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
nobody was gonna make "Such a lust for revenge....whooooooooooo?" sound good, so shoutouts to Skullface's VA for just going straight 80s cartoon with that shit
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Yeah critiques against Skullface's VA are largely misplaced. He really did what he could with what he had.
 
What deh khell? even Ocelot says that AI line when you tranquilize him, what's up with that? I'm going to upload it.

ed: It's already up on youtube, but what the hell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fHziRJ2KXk

2+2=5 as well from that 1984 book, how far does this weirdness go? I'm guessing the reason behind this is because he used hypnosis on himself? He can say "The Patriots" just fine, he even says so in MGSV in one of the tapes, but why is he saying La Li Lu Le Lo here instead? isn't that line used by people who literally can't say "The Patriots"? Or is it the players that are hearing "La Li Lu Le Lo" when Ocelot is saying something else entirely? I'm so confused right now. I thought SOP/the AIs was the reason the line La Li Lu Le Lo even existed, but I'm pretty sure the SOP system wasn't even in place in 1984, so really that line has no reason to exist yet, plus Ocelot didn't have a hand in creating the AIs. I think it was mentioned once in MGS3 though, regarding a password when Snake got to Adam (which he never did because Eva was there instead).

Whatever the case that's a really nice touch from Kojima.
 
Old skully's va is great. He'd fit r right into a more traditional metal gear.

If only his monologues were a bit more immediately relevant. Great casettes tho
 
Well this is fucked up. To become a hero and therefore infiltrate nuke enabled FOBs, I need all the codenames. The only one I'm missing is butterfly and how do you get it? By using Quiet to neutralise most guards silly!

I'm now on the "fuck losing Quiet" bandwagon.
 
giancarlo123x said:
It wasn't the worst thing but Holy shit it was a terrible design decision to make you redo the same exact parts you did in the beginning all over again even with the tutorial like you haven't been playing for 40 hours at least already. Once they showed the revelation that you had plastic surgery skip straight to the ambulance scene. Shit the whole mission could've been a cutscene. It was just padding.
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What I really don't understand is the truth cutscene itself.

When does it take place ? In 1995 ? Then why does Venom look exactly the same ?

Why is there a DD logo on the door and then a Outer Heaven one in the mirror ?

If it takes place in Outer Heaven in 1995 ... how come you can listen to tapes about the truth back in 1984 after the mission ?

And your soldiers now seem to be aware you're not big boss ?

The timeline seems to indicate that the real Big Boss created Outer Heaven and Venom sacrificed himself for him.

But the cutscene makes it look like DD became OH...

So many questions ...
 
SolVanderlyn said:
Just rewatched the final battle in MG1. Venom is just there, waiting for Snake, and then he says "I won't die for nothing" before fighting him... and dying.

I like to think the mirror punching scene happened directly before that. Dude knows he is gonna die at that point, whether he wins or not.
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Nah, in that cutscene he's sending out Operation Intrude N313 (to an MSX... let's just call it a transmitter) so the fight with Solid couldn't have been right after.
 
I think the ending for MGSV is cool as far as wrapping up TPP and GZ goes, but as far as concluding the Metal Gear franchise as a whole.... ehhhhhh

There's plenty of characters/concepts I wish were fleshed out more
 
Hasney said:
Well this is fucked up. To become a hero and therefore infiltrate nuke enabled FOBs, I need all the codenames. The only one I'm missing is butterfly and how do you get it? By using Quiet to neutralise most guards silly!

I'm now on the "fuck losing Quiet" bandwagon.
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Oh man, that really sucks. Another argument for Quiet getting patched back in at a later date.
 
Itchy//Tasty said:
Oh man, that really sucks. Another argument for Quiet getting patched back in at a later date.
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You get that emblem before Quiet leaves, as that emblem is required to prevent the activation of her leaving.

Iceternal said:
What I really don't understand is the truth cutscene itself.

When does it take place ? In 1995 ? Then why does Venom look exactly the same ?

Why is there a DD logo on the door and then a Outer Heaven one in the mirror ?

If it takes place in Outer Heaven in 1995 ... how come you can listen to tapes about the truth back in 1984 after the mission ?

And your soldiers now seem to be aware you're not big boss ?

The timeline seems to indicate that the real Big Boss created Outer Heaven and Venom sacrificed himself for him.

But the cutscene makes it look like DD became OH...

So many questions ...
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Because people would be pissed if the game simply ended after that cutscene.

It's a time skip, that's the only logical explanation. Operate Intrude is Metal Gear 1 and either that smoke and gunfire was Grey Fox after getting captured, or it was Solid Snake already in the base fucking shit up.

This is one case where people will needlessly overcomplicate a simple idea of a time skip.
 
I just went through the Truth Record. It answered a lot of the questions, but I wish it wasn't all shoved down to cassette tape and show some of these through cutscenes.
 
raven777 said:
I just went through the Truth Record. It answered a lot of the questions, but I wish it wasn't all shoved down to cassette tape and show some of these through cutscenes.
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The whole tape thing bothered me. In no way was looking at a static screen better than a cutscene or even a traditional codec call. It works really well in some cases, iike Chico's GZ tapes and some of the "secret" recorded conversations, but when it clearly two people talking to each other about current events it could have been done way better.
 
Rean said:
How do you get the Raiden and Grey Fox costumes? I did all that stuff in GZ and only got MGS1 Snake.
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I think you have to complete every story mission to get the option to develop Gray Fox's costume, and you have to get an S Rank in every story mission to get the option to develop Raiden's.

Something like that. There are 38 non-replay missions.
 
Do you guys remember in the nuclear trailer, the beginning where snake walks onto to the jungle covered in blood, and where he eventually screams his lungs out? Where is this cutscene?? I finished mission 46...
 
TheLostBigBoss said:
You get that emblem before Quiet leaves, as that emblem is required to prevent the activation of her leaving.



Because people would be pissed if the game simply ended after that cutscene.

It's a time skip, that's the only logical explanation. Operate Intrude is Metal Gear 1 and either that smoke and gunfire was Grey Fox after getting captured, or it was Solid Snake already in the base fucking shit up.

This is one case where people will needlessly overcomplicate a simple idea of a time skip.
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There are a few reasons why it's hard to flat out accept it as a time skip even though it has to be unless intrude 313 was preplanned a decade earlier by big boss to get solid snake ready.

1) Venom still had a diamond dogs patch on his shoulder
2) He's still wearing his same combat fatigues
3) It still looks like he's in mother base
4) He still has the shrapnel in his head
5) It looks like it takes place shortly after the quarantine bay incident
 
jeh said:
Do you guys remember in the nuclear trailer, the beginning where snake walks onto to the jungle covered in blood, and where he eventually screams his lungs out? Where is this cutscene?? I finished mission 46...
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It seems to be missing. People haven't found it yet, at least.
 
Rean said:
How do you get the Raiden and Grey Fox costumes? I did all that stuff in GZ and only got MGS1 Snake.
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I got Grey Fox's by finishing the main story missions including 45 and 46.

jeh said:
Do you guys remember in the nuclear trailer, the beginning where snake walks onto to the jungle covered in blood, and where he eventually screams his lungs out? Where is this cutscene?? I finished mission 46...
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A lot of scenes from that trailer are missing, including the scene where venom snake forces one of his soldiers to stab him while fighting in the rain.
 
jeh said:
Do you guys remember in the nuclear trailer, the beginning where snake walks onto to the jungle covered in blood, and where he eventually screams his lungs out? Where is this cutscene?? I finished mission 46...
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It was cut out the game. Look up mission 51.
 
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