The R rating is for the BvS Director's Cut, SS is PG-13.
Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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PlatypusDude
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Suicide Squad is rated PG-13.
He saved more than that from the Hydra base in the first CA film. He would have saved thousands upon thousands of lives by stopping the Red Skull and Hydra.
He ended Project Insight. The hellicarriers were set to kill millions. They already had 200,000 people targeted when they were destroyed just before firing.
I saw Cap save the entire world. We must have seen different movies.
God I hope not. I'm actually hyped for that.
PG-13.
I'm also naturally skeptical of any movie that thinks casting Jai Courtney is a good idea.
MuddyDonut
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Yeahp!
Bobby Roberts
Banned
You wanna go back to that madness where people were legitimately trying to argue that Superman: The Movie was a piece of shit?
Yeah well, the kid thing felt like a throwback in a way to the era where films like Shane Black's stuff were more common I felt. Iron Man 3 felt really, really 90s to me in a bunch of ways. Even in the way it handles violence. There's some really brutal shit in it, but done in such a casual PG way. Movies used to do that more, these days, not so much. The tone was such a nostalgia bomb for me.
Yes.
At least it made me laugh for a brief moment.
EDIT: Actually, no, if we're gonna poop on the flying scene.
Diprosalic
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it was. the entire movie was all about identity and it used that theme very cleverly.
Roland_Gunner
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When it comes to screenwriters, yes. Again, Argo was Chris Terrio's first film and it was great. Same thing with the the people who wrote Dallas Buyers Club. There are too many examples of people with no experience at writing who produce great stuff for me to think there's a strong correlation.
That's a deceptive cut that that ignores how much time passes between those scenes. Those cops are super dead, man, you even see Hulk throw one of them. He didn't reach in there and cuddle them.
I agree they watered down the death toll way too much in Sokovia but the Hulk fight was about as legit as they could get away with in an Avengers movie.
From what I've read most of the movies problems seem to come from the people at top, try to cramp as much as the movie as possible to get a cinematic universe running as soon as possible, who knows for how much longer will superheroes movies be rentable? We need this movie out!
I won't blame Snyder until I see the movie myself, not trying to lay the blame off him, but so far it doesn't seem as he's entirely to blame.
There's a Jeff Goldblum line in Jurassic Park that could more or less sum up the situation.
I won't blame Snyder until I see the movie myself, not trying to lay the blame off him, but so far it doesn't seem as he's entirely to blame.
There's a Jeff Goldblum line in Jurassic Park that could more or less sum up the situation.
CaviarMeths
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Well, since nobody's talking about Snyder's movie anymore...
First Class is top tier when it's about Xavier and Erik. It's campy and silly when it's about Teen Mutant Squad. Villains were crap. It's easily a weaker movie than X2 or DoFP.
Iron Man 3 was legit fantastic as a Shane Black movie. It's almost a better Kiss Kiss Bang Bang sequel than it is Iron Man 2/Avengers sequel. It's a classic buddy cop movie starring a man in a can. It's one of the best MCU movies.
And Age of Ultron isn't as good as the first movie, but it definitely benefits a lot from a second viewing. It's overstuffed, so watching it twice allows you to separate what's plot-important from what's not and enjoy each piece individually.
Iron Man 2 and Thor 2 were both mediocre and disappointing. At least Iron Man 2 actually had some interesting ideas that were wasted. Thor 2 is just straight up MCU filler episode.
First Class is top tier when it's about Xavier and Erik. It's campy and silly when it's about Teen Mutant Squad. Villains were crap. It's easily a weaker movie than X2 or DoFP.
Iron Man 3 was legit fantastic as a Shane Black movie. It's almost a better Kiss Kiss Bang Bang sequel than it is Iron Man 2/Avengers sequel. It's a classic buddy cop movie starring a man in a can. It's one of the best MCU movies.
And Age of Ultron isn't as good as the first movie, but it definitely benefits a lot from a second viewing. It's overstuffed, so watching it twice allows you to separate what's plot-important from what's not and enjoy each piece individually.
Iron Man 2 and Thor 2 were both mediocre and disappointing. At least Iron Man 2 actually had some interesting ideas that were wasted. Thor 2 is just straight up MCU filler episode.
The Silver
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Iron Man 3 was very boring to me, no desire to ever watch it again, and I have no problem with the Mandarin twist.
Discotheque
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this guy
https://youtu.be/SsVylETXptc?t=1m50s
seems like a down to earth australian bro. i think he'll surprisingly be fine. he's as generic as his characters and american accents are (which is all of them so far no doubt)
broncobuster
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If you want a reason to take pause, the original script was by Justin Marks. But word is Ayer rewrote the whole darn thing.
not psycho
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Bobby Roberts
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Shane Black made an early '90s Shane Black buddy comedy that just happened to star Tony & Rhodey.
If you at all like Shane Black I don't know how the fuck you can possibly get mad at that.
Like, if you dig
Lethal Weapon
Last Boy Scout
Long Kiss Goodnight
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
hell, I'll throw in Last Action Hero and fuckin' Monster Squad, even.
I don't know how you come away from Iron Man Three going "man, that was terrible." It makes no sense.
If you at all like Shane Black I don't know how the fuck you can possibly get mad at that.
Like, if you dig
Lethal Weapon
Last Boy Scout
Long Kiss Goodnight
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
hell, I'll throw in Last Action Hero and fuckin' Monster Squad, even.
I don't know how you come away from Iron Man Three going "man, that was terrible." It makes no sense.
Well again, it's just not in Cap's character to play the needs of the many vs the needs of the few game. He'll save every person he encounters no matter what, it's just who he is.
Also those numbers are supposed to be an easter egg. If you add them up, you get 274, which if you look at Avengers #274:
I kind of have a feeling that the numbers will be different in the actual theatrical release, but who knows.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Woah, other Iron Man 3 lovers exist? I thought I was alone. Loved Iron Man 3. Seemed too many people hated it for the Mandarin bait and switch, but I liked it. And the "too much Tony, not enough Iron Man" thing I totally disagreed with it. That's probably the biggest part about the movie I liked.
oh dear god
GlenChivas
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Browsing the thread again and was just wondering a couple of things:
What did most of you want or expect of this movie?
AND for anyone who may have seen the movie; what would you suggest is the age limit when it comes to kids?
What did most of you want or expect of this movie?
My buddy and I were talking tonight and we just want to see Batman and Superman beat the hell out of each other and it seems like we're getting that in spades.
Admittedly neither of us have bought or read a comic in probably 15-20 years so we may not be as invested in the characters or story lines as some people are, but we each grew up digging both characters and banging our action figures together shouting about who would win.
For a movie that's basically been marketed as a $200 million version of that, what was anyone hoping for aside from that? Not trying to troll, just genuine curiosity.
Admittedly neither of us have bought or read a comic in probably 15-20 years so we may not be as invested in the characters or story lines as some people are, but we each grew up digging both characters and banging our action figures together shouting about who would win.
For a movie that's basically been marketed as a $200 million version of that, what was anyone hoping for aside from that? Not trying to troll, just genuine curiosity.
AND for anyone who may have seen the movie; what would you suggest is the age limit when it comes to kids?
I know it's rated PG-13 and all kids are different blah blah blah... but the movie has been everywhere for a while now and our 7 year olds are dying to see it. I still won't let them watch the Dark Knight/Rises just to give you an idea of what we think is appropriate.
DrForester
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I am not a comic reader, so I didn't have horse in that race.
I liked the Mandarin twist. I liked it a lot, though I will give most of that credit to Ben Kingsly.
Last fight was kind of meh. My favorite part was Tony popping in and out of suits. I didn't like Guy Pierce's character. It felt like Batman Forever's Ridder story, but done with sincerity. Pepper at the end was just stupid.
Overall I still enjoyed IM3, easily better than IM2, which I think is the MCU lowpoint (yes, even below Thor 2).
Even with the growth of the international market in recent years, DC's strength has typically been domestic market. You can see how even in the growth in MoS and TDKR, it still is close to the domestic take while many other films have experienced much larger international takes in recent years compared to domestic alone.
Batman Begins
Domestic: $206,852,432
Foreign: $167,366,241
Superman Returns
Domestic: $200,081,192
Foreign: $191,000,000
The Dark Knight
Domestic: $534,858,444
Foreign: $469,700,000
Watchmen
Domestic: $107,509,799
Foreign: $77,749,184
Green Lantern
Domestic: $116,601,172
Foreign: $103,250,000
The Dark Knight Rises
Domestic: $448,139,099
Foreign: $636,800,000
Man of Steel
Domestic: $291,045,518
Foreign: $377,000,000
I would say BvS capping at $350-$400M D and $450-$550M F is plausible and not breaking $1B worst case scenario isn't absurd.
ben the only one with an internet connection rn
If Bats can survive a broken back and Affleck can survive Gigli they can survive this easily.
Legit curious who the 3 top notch actors are?
79% Fresh.
I keep seeing people here surprised that other people (outside of NeoGAF) like things and it makes me laugh every time.
m_shortpants
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I just got home.
Oh dear.
Oh dear.
Reptars Revenge
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Guessing Leto, Smith, and Davis. Pretty solid.
Internet echo chambers.
Iron Man 3 was well made, well received, and a huge box office hit. Plenty of people love it.
I hated that movie with a passion and I even liked the first Captain America movie.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I was naturally being a bit hyperbolic, since obviously there's gotta be other people out there that enjoy it and yes I know it reviewed well, but I have legitimately never interacted with another human being who enjoyed Iron Man 3 and wasn't my girlfriend.
bananafactory
Banned
Alright this is happening, I guess. God damnit you guys
On Batman:
FUCK
ZACK WHY WHAT THE FUCK
Goddamn,
Daredevil can stick to his no killing rule despite everyone pushing him to the edge yet Batman can't?
I'll still see the movie and I'm still excited for the future of the DC Universe and especially Suicide Squad. But it's sad to hear this movie could have been much better than it was.
Also 79% Fresh. Don't tell NeoGAF though.
Chaotic-Strike
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Jeez that score...... I was expecting it to be at the 50's at it's worst.
As a stand alone MCU film, I enjoyed IM3 a lot. The final showdown was poor, but the Mandarin twist was entirely unexpected and very funny.
IM3 suffered from being the first Phase 2 film. I'm sure I wasn't alone in thinking that Tony would be hanging out with his new buddies, and I could never shake the felling of why isn't he calling on Shield/Cap/Banner/Thor for help? It kind of felt a bit pointless and fell flat, in that it didn't progress or change the MCU one bit.
As Phase 2 progressed, more crossovers were done, and they all were beneficial to the individual films and the MCU in general. It's great this is continuing in Phase 3. A Thor/Hulk buddie movie has the chance to be epic.
IM3 suffered from being the first Phase 2 film. I'm sure I wasn't alone in thinking that Tony would be hanging out with his new buddies, and I could never shake the felling of why isn't he calling on Shield/Cap/Banner/Thor for help? It kind of felt a bit pointless and fell flat, in that it didn't progress or change the MCU one bit.
As Phase 2 progressed, more crossovers were done, and they all were beneficial to the individual films and the MCU in general. It's great this is continuing in Phase 3. A Thor/Hulk buddie movie has the chance to be epic.
I'd be shocked if they let my girl Viola do anything fun or interesting.
From seeing it you mean? Tell all.
I don't disagree with you that for the most part it is flawed in his characterization, but I had low expectations and perhaps that is why I could forgive it. I would have to rewatch both and see if my view of either differ from the first time. I can't really get into it with you if it's not fresh on my mind outside of random things I remember liking or disliking about either. Ultron just felt so hokey to me, it constantly felt as though it was trying to set up all of the potential branching sequels. Which sounds like what some reviewers are saying about BvS and its villain was just another stepping stone that they had to push through while they got to thread the needle.
Fair enough.
Oh neat.
Comic films prior to Avengers are no longer relevant, and BvS is a sequel. I think the split will be TDKR-like on the low end of things.
Diprosalic
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i was wondering too.
Thatonemoor
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Man I thought I was the only one that thought Iron Man 3 was good after watching it a second time lol. Mandarin Twist soured me at first but that didn't change the fact that the movie was a hell of a fun ride until then. Kinda reminds me of the first Cap movie in that reguard. Really solid first act that falls apart sorta half way and finishes on a mediocre note.
OT: Pretty surprised the movie is reviewing as bad as it is. Maybe my prediction of a a good opening weekend and a huge drop off next week might hold water.
OT: Pretty surprised the movie is reviewing as bad as it is. Maybe my prediction of a a good opening weekend and a huge drop off next week might hold water.
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