FranXico
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I personally held off buying a PS4Pro because the base console was good enough so far. My Pro will be the PS5, if it's priced right, that is.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Same here.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I'm guessing the reveal event will be on June 11th, 1 week later than the original schedule.
Announcement early next week, no later than wednesday.
Announcement early next week, no later than wednesday.
Gamernyc78
Banned
I'm not reading anything about bad yields from that Bloomberg article. Just about scarce parts but that could be attributed to any number of reasons.
From the Bloomberg article: "The company’s biggest headache is ensuring a reliable supply of DRAM and NAND flash memory, with both in high demand as smartphone makers gear up for fifth-generation devices, according to people familiar with Sony’s operations."
Your claim on what Bloomberg said.
"If, as rumours suggest, Sony's chip yields are shit and they need to come in with a higher price than Xbox"
So why are you not making a reference to the actual origins of the rumor?
Edit: Found the source.
General Next Generation Rumors and Discussions [Post GDC 2020]
Sort of a variable target though. If you are looking for the cream of the crop chip and not getting as many, you're bound to have poorer yields than a lower binned chip. Sony wouldn't be aiming for cream of the crop, this would be crazy expensive because you're literally binning everything...forum.beyond3d.com
Now I know why you didn't want to use the actual source.
Tht was my response earlier he got it from tht bozo blue balls. These dudes angles are apparent. They need to stop posting bs on this forum from ppl we already know are agitators and propaganda machines.
Btw Bloomberg also often doesn't have any Inside info. But I know their not trying to spread fud like blue balls.
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Rudius
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I played the Spiderman VR demo and found it to be an interesting proof of concept, even if limited and with PS2 graphics. A Spiderman VR made by Insomniac would be fantastic, but maybe that's dreaming too muchMy dream for sony's announcement is FPS : First Person Spider-Man in VR.
On the PS4, there was a kind of Spiderman VR demo, I've always thought it was an ad for their next generation game.
Fingers crossed
Just imagine how many of this game Sony's gonna sell....
By the way, I suggest you play the Iron Man VR demo if you haven't already. It's great.
Rudius
Member
I hope they scrap it so that developers can push Series X and PS5 really hard at the cost of lower resolutions. With super detailed graphics and good anti-aliasing techniques 4K is not that necessary or noticeable. Just imagine how good 1080p 60fps game would look and play in this machines.
MasterCornholio
Member
I don't know if this is some crazy coincidence but take a look at the users name that I believe is the source of the rumor.
eastmen
forum.beyond3d.com
His name is Eastmen.
Is he the same as this one on Twitter?
Then when he made those claims that blue guy says that the sources at Microsoft told him the opposite?
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Wraith Phantom
Member
This sounds crazy & just sounds pathetic.They are fully trying to tie people down like mobile contracts.They should of just announced it along the XSX. And market XSX like mobile companies do Big ,medium ,small model phones. To push this cheaper model this late in the day undermines their whole power narrative its crazy. PS studio games already looked better than anything on the 1X despite being worlds most power console. Its not going to change. We have already seen the visual targets of the consoles.
XSX is targeting 2080TI high end pc performance. As seen by their "gameplay showcases" and multiple representative text disclosures. We also have one of the devs telling us 1 of the trailers was running on a 2080Ti. This target for visuals is also a reason why Xbox are targeting more PC devs with pc games. PS are targeting VFX, geometry , 8K movie asset level games as seen by unreal demo. Epic/Tim Sweeney have told us whilst dancing on the edge of their NDA'S.
The visual targets are set. Xbox have gone with the current PC architecture model of the last 2 gens.
PS have created a new architecture & completely different way of designing games , graphics rendering.
The visual battle is already over. 3rd party games are not going to look different. Its going to go down to performance. And well listen to the devs.
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Radical Dreamer
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Same. My PS4 to this day runs perfectly fine (yes, sometimes it's loud but not as much as people make it out to be, duh) so yeah imo people who play on pro are a minority.
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Seriously though. The Sony marketing that is going on here for is beyond ridiculous. Are you a Sony shill or what is going on? Where are all these shills suddenly come from?
this Little Mark Cerny, this SSDfan and now this guy. And many many more. WTF is going on?
MasterCornholio
Member
Not to be a dick but alot of that you can apply to yourself depending on how you look at it.
You should go easier on newer members. We were all there once.
zaitsu
Banned
Maybe PS5 is better machine ? Thats what developers are saying for quite some time from many sources.
saintjules
Member
I don't believe the protests are as robust on the news now, but there's still protests happening. I still found it unreal when people were walking the Brooklyn / Golden Gate Bridges. I think those were the height of it all. Not to derail the thread of course, but phase 2 here in NY starts this week. More people will be called back to work, so things should slowly wind down. We'll see.
I agree on the reveal soon. I think both Companies want to be the first thing to come to the mind of Consumers for the Holiday season. 'Why should the Consoles be on your Christmas shopping list this year?' They'll need this push and promote 'soon' .
Traditionally we knew price and design around this time over the last few generations. The only times I've heard about next-gen Consoles besides online was a 10 second mention on the local news radio and the one time I saw the PS5 logo (news) at the Gas Station Pump screen. That was back in January after CES I think.
saintjules
Member
BurnCoalMeltPole
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People talk about how the controller and SSD will be great for open world games but I think this new architecture will shine in GT... tracks environments are quite predictable in the way assets will stream so the devs I think will maximize geometry and track detail in an unprecedented levels.. all will be packed with beautiful ultra realistic details and effects... no need for native 4K.. I will be quite pleased if they do 60 FPS 1440p reconstructed to 4K...
And I do not even want to imagine what they can accomplish with the tempest engine...
The perfect driving experience will melt faces
On a side note seeing how the other shows delays are happening I think all is aligning for a next week Sony show... Monday announcement and Thursday show...
No doubt GT on PS5 will look great, but there are plenty of areas which can use improvement, and it remains to be seen what they will be able to implement. Features I would like to see include: procedural clouds, dynamic weather, dynamic time of day, a dynamic track (rubbering in, gravel, debris, etc.), 60+ cars, animated foliage, extremely long draw distance, reflections at full frame rate, fully rendered rear view mirrors, detailed damage modeling with procedural destruction, full pit crews, full manual control in pit lane, complex and accurate penalty system, rally!, complex tire wear with full deformation and blowouts and delamination, and deformable trackside runoff and barriers. Basically imagine a full 24hr Le Mans simulation with 60 cars and multiple classes. I do not expect much of this to happen, but we can dream, right?
Anyway, Polyphony Digital is one of the greatest studios around, and I have little doubt that whatever they show will blow minds.
Turn 10 also looks to be adding tons of new features (rally?) to Forza, so the next reveal should be exciting as well.
SSfox
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HawarMiran
Banned
Still have the OG PS4.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Hope we can start up the hype train again tomorrow with a new date announcement, I mean the literal hype train pic, as I got a good seat on that one and if it's crashing off the tracks like last time I want to die a believer in Saint Cerny
ANIMAL1975
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Games Dean
Member
I don't understand. What's the context?
cerealbuster
Member
I really hope the reveal is next week. PS5 news + tlou 2 positive critics sounds pretty good. I really want to see if they have something like smart delivery, if it's mostly console design and some cinematics of games that will release 2 years later then it will be hype but also boring.
Also if there will be ps5 patches or let's say smart delivery I really want to know if that also will reduce file sizes, like linus said e.g.
Also if there will be ps5 patches or let's say smart delivery I really want to know if that also will reduce file sizes, like linus said e.g.
Ptarmiganx2
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GRIEVEZ
Member
I really shouldnt emote reply, if I havent checked the hashtag
Cant really say im that surprised... Thats what ive read over and over... that people shouldnt become gamedevs, unless you are extremely passionate...
You need a to be knowledgable beyond your points of interests, constantly be learning, the pay isnt great and than theres the crunch...
SportsFan581
Member
Does this mean Xbox never has to change their design since they keep restarting at 1?
Better to be #1 than #5.
Gediminas
Banned
so you are saying that xbox trying to compensate their last places with the name? not a bad decision to feel yourself better
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Except when you are talking about Mambo then always go N°5.
Joey.
Member
Still gaming on my OG PS4 and Xbox One.
Never felt the need to upgrade, they both run perfectly well.
I'm ready to upgrade to next-gen though...my body is ready.
Yeah I'm hoping for Thurs June 11 or Fri June 12 reveal date.
I'm hoping the announcement is tomorrow. PlayStation Official Twitter Account has been silent since Monday June 1 and tomorrow will be one week. I'm hoping they break their silence tomorrow.
They did the right thing last week, now its time to do the right thing this week and update their fanbase.
jonnyp
Member
Don't be too hard on yourself. You can do better.
PaintTinJr
Member
Given the reception the UE5 demo has had since it was shown, and the impact it has had on the retrospective perception of the Road to PS5 talk, and the shuffling of notions about PC specs to exceed the PS5 IO complex, I'm now wondering if Playstation are considering doubling the GDDR6 memory for the PS5 - even if it would commit them to a PS3 £650 price for 12-18months.
My thinking is, people are loving the the idea of nanite and lumens in PS5 games, and feel that the hardware is near perfection for next-gen - with the only real PS5 fan concern being price for the wider market if the BOM is already less than ideal.
Given the legs an extra 16GB of the GDDR6 would give to UE5 on PS5 and offset rapid changes in RT on GPUs over the gen , 32GB of GDDR6 (IMHO) would genuinely justify a £650 launch price for a PS5 and potentially remove the need to subsides it for the first 10M buyers(if like me they are now buying regradless of price)...so potentially working out cheaper than a lesser BOM for 16GB that then needed a £100 subsidy for those first 10M sales.
It would also put the Xbox in a tricky position as upping the memory on the XsX to appear to compete wouldn't be so straight forward (AFAIK) and just end up being a BOM issue and increase the need for XsS.
My thinking is, people are loving the the idea of nanite and lumens in PS5 games, and feel that the hardware is near perfection for next-gen - with the only real PS5 fan concern being price for the wider market if the BOM is already less than ideal.
Given the legs an extra 16GB of the GDDR6 would give to UE5 on PS5 and offset rapid changes in RT on GPUs over the gen , 32GB of GDDR6 (IMHO) would genuinely justify a £650 launch price for a PS5 and potentially remove the need to subsides it for the first 10M buyers(if like me they are now buying regradless of price)...so potentially working out cheaper than a lesser BOM for 16GB that then needed a £100 subsidy for those first 10M sales.
It would also put the Xbox in a tricky position as upping the memory on the XsX to appear to compete wouldn't be so straight forward (AFAIK) and just end up being a BOM issue and increase the need for XsS.
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
I doubt any bump in specs now given they announced them already. It would also mean 16 RAM chips and they already need to accommodate 12 flash dies/controller and 8 GDDR6 chips and whatever else is on the motherboard. Never mind additional power and costs.
saintjules
Member
So it seems he has 3 Services. The last one being held this Tuesday in Houston.
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PaintTinJr
Member
I would have thought the only prohibitive issue would have been cost/risk for PS5 price - and why wouldn't 4GB chips be usable? With memory price volatility being as it has been historically, I would have expected Playstation to leave the door open for upping memory if the cost per module suddenly collapsed. Is that not a possibility, then?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Looks like you're describing yourself.
Knitted Knight
Banned
Boy been spreading FUD left and right... then again it's just probably a throwaway account. Similar ones just got the boot recently - same posting pattern. Funny to project as if we're none the wiser.
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SSfox
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I'm curious like when some 3rd parties would decide to go all out to maximize PS5 I/O SSD specs, how the Xbox Series X port is gonna be and look like.
Adding more blur in the fast pacing moment? lower quality of some assets in places where there are a tons and very variants assets?
Hard to tell exactly for now, but this gen should be quite interesting when it comes to console specs and hardware, the architecture of the consoles are so different, didn't happen since a while, and maybe even never been different at that level before.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
So we may get a date announcement on Monday for a Wednesday or Thursday event. There is the George Floyd service you mentioned on Tuesday and on Friday is the embargo lift for TLOU 2. Guess whatever happens we will know tomorrow. (Unless they announce it on Wednesday and still do it on Thursday)
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
4GB chips don't exist yet AFAIK? Given the stuff we know about the make up of PS5 I would guess the design has always been for 8 GDDR6 chips so 16GB has been a lock from basically the start. I also believe PS4 was designed to used 16 2Gb GDDR5 chips but were able to switch them to 4Gb ones in time for launch (Q3/Q4 2012).
It could be they do 16 1GB chips but that would make for a very densely populated motherboard! I also seem to remember one of the first things Matt (the dev) told us here back in 2017 was 32GB wasn't needed and we wouldn't be getting.
saintjules
Member
Yeah, if their plan was to have this event before TLOU2 it would be this week. Though there have been people that commented that Sony wouldn't want to take the hype away from TLOU2 by doing the reveal around it or GoT for that matter. So there's that theory to consider.
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Leo_Barcellos
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Hawking Radiation
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We were all there once true but not everyone starts their membership by spreading misinformation.Not to be a dick but alot of that you can apply to yourself depending on how you look at it.
You should go easier on newer members. We were all there once.
You can't paint everyone with the same brush.
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
You made the right choice, you really didn't miss much. Still have my base in another room and I rarely if ever see a difference.
geordiemp
Member
If anything Sony would increase the RAM chips speed from 14 to 16 gbs if they thought it was necessary. With streaming they dont need more RAM.
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Wraith Phantom
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You sound a little a bit way too deep into this. Thats borderline a paranoid post. Its just a forum. Maybe take a break. This is just weird lashing out behaviour over a post you don't agree with. Not cool. This is a totally new account. I know nothing about alt accounts.Or spreading fud. What do I gain from lying.?? That whole Fud thing seems a waste of time. Especially if your not getting paid. Me having 1,9,50 or 100+ post doesn't change my opinion.
You can debate me on my post or just ignore it. Its cool whatever you do. Maybe you should take a break new people join forums every day. This is just weird lashing out ,suspicion at members. Maybe take a break.
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SSfox
Member
Who's this guy?
MasterCornholio
Member
I mean your right about that. I'm pretty sure mods are aware of that as long as people report him.
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