asdasdasdbb
Member
I was just looking at that on SteamDB. There are 10 countries that are restricted. Mostly Middle East and also Russia.
Player Count is 7,594. Which is eh.
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I was just looking at that on SteamDB. There are 10 countries that are restricted. Mostly Middle East and also Russia.
Player Count is 7,594. Which is eh.
Revolutionary
Member
Yes please.
Also, a 'Replace Clive with Tifa' mod would be great.
But the thing I'm hoping for the most is a PS5->PC save converter, because I'd love to play NG+ from the start.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
The game is so bad I wouldn't even bother to replay with higher graphical settings. FF 7 remake is so much better.
TrebleShot
Member
Aren't the cuscenes pre rendered hence 30fps
Tarnpanzer
Member
They are realtime but locked @30fps. Nothing a mod cannot handle. So far my biggest gripe.
Runs between 50-80fps on a 4090 with 4K/DLAA, ~double that with FrameGen. I expected much worse performance, so I am happy.
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Wow..
So not recommended?
I'm really puzzled if I will like this game
That the action becomes DMC is fine, but ultimately FF7 rebirth also bored me to tears in the end while the intro was amazing.
What makes FF16 boring? Side quests?
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
At best, it gets announced as part of Xbox's stream on gamescom (like how the Persona 3/4/5 ports weren't announced for all platforms at the same time), at worst, it's a bit late.
If "early 2025" basically means H1 2025, a June release could tick the box. But yes, it's also possible SE would want something to boost revenue in their FY 24 Q3 period (assuming their FY ends in June). In that case an Xbox version could come in maybe February or March.
Still tho, I think any Xbox version is gonna need Game Pass by default to make it make dollar sense to SE, especially if it's releasing after the PC version.
You're on PC, you know how this works. Always get the latest drivers available, just out of instinct.
This is what Square officially said....
Final Fantasy XVI Producer Teases Xbox Port
We recently interviewed Final Fantasy XVI staff at PAX East 2024, namely producer Naoki Yoshida and DLC director Takeo Kujiraoka, where the idea of an Xbox port was indirectly teased.noisypixel.net
PS.Which does not mean that I am accepting the credibility of this supposed "insider." In fact I don't and for some reason he has me blocked
TBF, "other platforms" could also mean the Switch 2.
Tho honestly, at this rate I'm expecting VII Remake and Rebirth are higher priorities for Switch 2 from SE than XVI.
Myths
Member
Rock textures on point 
Also, locked at 100 fps too. Think I might end up doing the same as you until addressed otherwise.
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delfrickintree
Banned
I am skeptical that it will run decently on the deck. But I'll give it a shot..
Revolutionary
Member
It's mostly the pacing that fails the game IMO. If you played FFXIV, then you've got a good idea of how jarring the pacing can be. Exciting moments in the story -> followed by hours of unavoidable errands and MMO-style sidequests (talk to 3 NPCs, etc.).
Also the combat takes a while to really open up. The first dozen hours of combat feels like you're mostly pressing one button and using a single ability on cooldown. And even when the combat is fully 'unlocked', it's still fairly simple compared to other Action RPGs.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Also, locked at 100 fps too. Think I might end up doing the same as you until addressed otherwise.
Square: Made for PS5. Definitely not cross gen.
iQuasarLV
Member
Looking at the steam store upcoming releases makes me think that SE has just given up on the 16th Final Fantasy vs other projects if it is $49.99 out the gate. This coming from a company that finds no fault charging PS5 $70 prices for a PC port. Jesus Forspoken is still $70
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Sidequests, lack of meaningful rewards for those quests, lack of interesting stuff to find while you explore, etc etc.
The structure of the game outside of those linear action segments is so archaic and boring. So much of "go to next outpost, talk to the guy with the quest marker who dumps some info on you, talk to 3 other people who had quest markers pop up over their heads, go kill the bandits/monster/whatever, turn in quest, talk to the next guy with the quest marker that just popped up on his head…."
The sidequests are generic MMO stuff and there's tons of them. Most of them reward you with crafting materials that you have literally hundreds of, and nothing to use them on. Every new weapon/armor is just a minute stat increase over the previous one.
The exploration zones mostly have nothing to find except shiny dots that give you like 3 Gil or some useless crafting item.
Even lots of the story sequences are bad. For every riveting GoT style drama scene there are 10 others where the characters just stand there like mannequins yapping on and on about something nobody cares about.
Imagine a very pretty but shallow DMC clone, but in between each stage you have to do like 6 hours of FF XIV A Realm Reborn drudgery to unlock the next stage. That's XVI in a nutshell.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Did you get into combat? Because this would probably tank your fps.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
50? Pc users not getting royally fucked for once.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Hope its the same for rebirth
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I hope it runs well on PC/Steamdeck
I just tested out FF16 Demo on Steamdeck and it works fine for me. Yes there bugs but nothing game breaking. I can still play the game portable
Mercador
Member
Man, there's so many 4090s in this thread, I feel poor with my 4070 
Anyway, it runs ok with frame gen, I play on a 4K TV limited to 60hz and it seems to keep that most of the time. But man this is blurry and inconstant. Sometimes it's blurry, sometimes it's not, really weird. Cutscenes in 30 is not great but still not a game breaker for me. But I'm not sure I'm playing a Final Fantasy. It got the name, the IP generics, the tone is definitely more mature but it plays more like FFXV than older FFs. I know I must look at Bravely Default and Octopath Traveler for my old memories of a good pixel FF.
Few things that I noticed;
- Someone really like that drop between Gandalf and the Balrog, I was expecting them to fall in a lake
- Clive only hop in Castle but jump in the wild (it feels weird)
- I guess with enough muscle memory, it will bring the game a bit on the easy side
I'll watch a few reviews from the PS5 launch, some of you tell us that the demo is the best that the game have to offer so perhaps I'll wait a bit. That was the first FF I didn't play at launch because I couldn't justify to purchase a console for only one game so I'm happy to see it on PC so perhaps I'll do my part. I was expecting Squenix to allow us to preorder FF7 Rebirth and gives FF7 remake as a gift like on the PS5, perhaps I'm day dreaming, if FF exclusives are 18 months long, I would expect that some preorder for Rebirth will be available this winter?
Anyway, it runs ok with frame gen, I play on a 4K TV limited to 60hz and it seems to keep that most of the time. But man this is blurry and inconstant. Sometimes it's blurry, sometimes it's not, really weird. Cutscenes in 30 is not great but still not a game breaker for me. But I'm not sure I'm playing a Final Fantasy. It got the name, the IP generics, the tone is definitely more mature but it plays more like FFXV than older FFs. I know I must look at Bravely Default and Octopath Traveler for my old memories of a good pixel FF.
Few things that I noticed;
- Someone really like that drop between Gandalf and the Balrog, I was expecting them to fall in a lake
- Clive only hop in Castle but jump in the wild (it feels weird)
- I guess with enough muscle memory, it will bring the game a bit on the easy side
I'll watch a few reviews from the PS5 launch, some of you tell us that the demo is the best that the game have to offer so perhaps I'll wait a bit. That was the first FF I didn't play at launch because I couldn't justify to purchase a console for only one game so I'm happy to see it on PC so perhaps I'll do my part. I was expecting Squenix to allow us to preorder FF7 Rebirth and gives FF7 remake as a gift like on the PS5, perhaps I'm day dreaming, if FF exclusives are 18 months long, I would expect that some preorder for Rebirth will be available this winter?
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I'm gonna to wait for a sale for this game though
I liked what I played of it but wasn't really impressed with the game
It just felt like a generic fantasy now with an action system..
I liked what I played of it but wasn't really impressed with the game
It just felt like a generic fantasy now with an action system..
Hero_Select
Member
Hopefully Square Enix actually learned something and that FF17 is on PC from day one..
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
And hopefully go back to traditional Final Fantasy
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Lies. Titan boss. Bahamut boss. Final boss. Both dlcs bosses.
Game is a banger. Fuck the haters.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
a mod to remove the late game purple filter will be even more popular than a "pet Jill" mod
SkylineRKR
Member
Its baffling indeed. You get many materials, but I never understood for what purpose. The only weapons worthwhile to make were those weapons made from special drops from hunts. And often the weapon was a bit weaker than the one you had gotten from a boss anyway. There is only 2 stats on them, there is no elemental, speed difference... nothing. Its a 60 hours game with only one sword archetype. And the full moveset of it will be unlocked within the hour.
Meanwhile against more powerful foes you don't do damage with your basic attacks at all. You might as well not use them. The only way to beat stronger enemies and bosses is by spamming your 4 special attacks which are on cooldown. There is no strategy to it at all. DMC clone is actually too much credit. I wish it was.
The game is made by the applauded FFXIV team. And this is exactly the problem with it. Its like they don't know how to create a compelling single player experience. Because MMO need ways to spread out queues for instances, XVI ofcourse is strictly single player. Dungeons are disconnected from the overworld, another MMO trope. There is literally nothing to find or explore in them and you can't revisit them too.
XVI is actually at its best when its cinematic. It falls apart each time you need to go out and need to talk to a string of static NPC or fetch something useless. Which is typically in between the major standoffs.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
wait, did you like what you played of it or were you not really impressed with it? I feel like the two things you're saying are at odds with eachother.
Hero_Select
Member
Yes please
Madflavor
Member
If we're talking about the Highs of the game, then yeah the Demo isn't the best part. But if we're talking about storytelling, pacing, characterizing, cutscene quality, and dynamic camerawork and directing, then yes the Demo is the best part of the game. I was fiending hard for this game leading up to realize. It was ticking every single right box for me. So I didn't go in looking to criticize it. FFXVI has banger moments that are few and far between, and in the middle of those moments are some of the worst pacing and gameplay loop I've seen in a long time.
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Pray for Bravely Third, Octopath 3 or BD3. Traditional Final Fantasy is dead in the water for mainline unfortunately.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Yeah ever since 13 it's been dead for me..
I prefer those bolded franchises way more now
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Wait till y'all PC folks see the Rebirth rock textures in 4K
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Rebirth is the one I'm waiting on for a Steam release
It looks like a proper JRPG and it looks like they put alot of effort into making it an experience
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's definitely a lot 'more game' than FFXVI but specifically to Rodrigo's post I quoted, it has way more instances of very low resolution assets compared to FFXVI. So, PC power-users are probably gonna have a lot to nitpick there.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Been replaying Bravely Second the past 3 days(which will likely turn into 2 weeks going through a normal mode run and then a hard mode run). It's a near perfect traditional Final Fantasy game. Hard to put down. Mix and matching between the Job classes and ability slots alone gives a lot of customization in approaching combat encounters.
Ever since they went the high graphics and realism route over the years FF has lost it's charm and identity. I'm happy that some games can rekindle what made Final Fantasy what it was back in the day.
At some point I'll be revisiting FFX and X-2 and giving XIII trilogy a shot. The games of today might make the games of yesterday better received.
For those that may not know t
FF16 is in an odd space with the pricing and that's maninly due to PlayStation refusing to permantely discount it unlike every other retailer. You can get a physical copy from Amazon, Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, QVC and other major retailers starting at $50 since around February. That's just the standard MSRP with some dipping down to $30. The only time the PSN price aligns is when they do a sale and it's usually a fixture there now. Strangers of Paradise also started out on Steam at $40 and that was following the permanant discount announcement on console after launching at $60.Looking at the steam store upcoming releases makes me think that SE has just given up on the 16th Final Fantasy vs other projects if it is $49.99 out the gate. This coming from a company that finds no fault charging PS5 $70 prices for a PC port. Jesus Forspoken is still $70
iQuasarLV
Member
I don't blame Sony for Square's pricing decisions. I blame SE for shit like this:
or Kingdom Hearts and its full price never ending re-re-re-release of old content with an added feature-dungeon-story, or HD2D remakes at $60-$70 of now 30+ year old games.
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Ferdimage
Member
Agreed, loaded up the demo, cranked all the graphics settings up.. still looks like a blurry mess.
Uninstalled
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Yeah. People calling XVI "current gen/CG like" need to share the stuff they are smoking.
asdasdasdbb
Member
It is one of the better looking games of this generation. Which is saying something...
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Not even DLAA makes things not blurry. Almost everything looks low res, models look like dolls, hair is ugly...
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Yeah I heard, it's only the story that's been mixed on alot of people who have played it among a certain other thing but there's something called mods that can fix that other thing
Team Osano is a great developer. Live A Live was surprisedly fantastic. Bravely Default II I was addicted to it, I did level grinding, job grinding and stat grinding where I
Percented everything. I did all the side quests, got all the endings, etc. I think I spend a good 250 to 300 hours into it. That battle system was fantastic. I haven't played Bravely Default and Bravely Second yet but I should since I heard both games are fantastic when it comes to the battle system. Triangle Strategy was a good game but the story wasn't the interesting and I felt there should have been more gameplay. Octopath Traveler I had to drop because the battle system just wasn't my thing. Now the second game I heard they improved alot so I'll eventually pick it upThat how I feel too, I really am not a fan of FF13 especially due to the cast. Always felt the main character in that game was an unlikable bitch and it's funny how salty SquareEnix is about her not being popular at all. Instead 2B is their Moneymaker when it comes to WAIFUs
I think with SquareEnix, that they should have went the Team Asano route with most of thier games. With their Final Fantasy games past 12, should have just stuck to making it more Japanese than trying to court Western gamers who don't care about playing their games. Reason why Dragon Quest 11 was so successful is because they stuck to what works.
I love FF10 and FF12. To me those are the last good 3D FF
Before someone says FF14, that should have been a spinoff title instead of Mainline title
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Combat is not bad at least.
skit_data
Member
Is the demo the same one that was on PS5? That demo was a real masterpiece in marketing, I remember pre-ordering the game instantly after finishing the demo.
The game didn't really manage to deliver on that level overall, but I still consider it very much worth playing because some of those peak moments are truly spectacular.
The game didn't really manage to deliver on that level overall, but I still consider it very much worth playing because some of those peak moments are truly spectacular.