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[dano1]

For the people that can't afford our PS5 pro. We have a product for you! It's called PS5

 

[Gamer79]

Have they said all upgrades are free or is it a per game basis?

I can see EA now :
"Madden 4k 60fps upgrade 9.99"

 

[schaft0620]

Nah

 

[TheBomb]

Don't give them ideas.

 

[TintoConCasera]

That would devaluate the PS5 Pro, so I don't think Sony would ever allow them to do such a thing.

 

[Nankatsu]

 

[TommyCronin6969]

I hope so then a lot of people won't buy the pro.

 

[jshackles]

Bundling with the same game as base PS5 is not a selling point. Pro is aimed primarily at affluent enthusiasts who would have already owned a PS5. A new PS5 Pro exclusive, even a glorified tech demo, would give people something to get excited over.

I would have also accepted a digital copy of Astrobot, and maybe some PRO-Exclusive DLC level that flexes the PS5 Pro's muscles.

 

[Humdinger]

I'm in for it. I am in a good financial position, so $800 is not a big deal. I'm not sure if I'll get the disc drive yet. I might just keep my PS5 for that. The attachment looks ugly.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

So how do you expect them to build the Pro? How much is a PS5 or Series X retail price? It has double the storage which in itself is roughly £100 more. Bigger GPU, faster CPU and ram.

I think they need to build it with an understanding of how potential customers will view the value proposition (hint: they're viewing it very negatively right now) and either put out an expensive product that is actually a premium product or put out a product that's in line with people's pricing expectations. The PS4 Pro was a huge jump from the base model without even increasing the price over the original PS4's MSRP. This sidegrade feels like a slap in the face by comparison. There's nothing "premium" about a downgrade from onboard disc drive to a la carte and upcharging a freaking stand that came by default for an extra $30+. I hope this greed is punished so they don't up the ante with PS6 at $800.

 

[Gaiff]

When you spend that much, IT IS for games

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Its a high end product for a product that already exist. Just like the Dualsense Edge is crazy priced. You can try again this same topic if the PS6 has a crazy starting price as thats a product that will be aimed for the masses. PS5 Pro is not aimed for the masses.

Then why was PS4 Pro "for the masses" at the same MSRP the PS4 launched at?

 

[Ancient Gamer]

PS5 Pro will be $1,199 in Australia which is equivalent to USD$798. Then add the disc drive for another $159 (USD $105). Ouch!

 

[taizuke]

Then why was PS4 Pro "for the masses" at the same MSRP the PS4 launched at?

Probably because it was competing with Xbox One X. This time there's no direct competition.

 

[Quantum253]

So when are pre orders going live

 

[jm89]

So when are pre orders going live

Sept 26th

 

[Quantum253]

Sept 26th

Thank you, marking the date down

 

[RyanEvans21]

Sept 26th

Included Amazon?

 

[jm89]

Included Amazon?

Ps direct.

I saw someone mention earlier in the thread sometime in October other retailers going live for preorders.

 

[peish]

People forgot about this? $599.99999999

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/xbox-series-x-2tb-galaxy-black-special-edition/8smbrt7wmfp9?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

 

[Bojji]

People forgot about this? $599.99999999

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/x...n/8smbrt7wmfp9?activetab=pivot:eek:verviewtab

Everyone was laughing at this, yes.

 

[FunkMiller]

The fact this thing is that expensive isn't in and of itself the problem.

The fact it's that expensive but has absolutely fucking nothing to show as a value proposition beyond a minimal bump in visuals is very definitely the problem.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

I would gladly pay 800€ for a console but at this specs I'm really feeling I'm getting screwed as the value proposition is not there to justify.. I'll wait to see how the games run on it before I decide but my hopes are really low..

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

For the people that can't afford our PS5 pro. We have a product for you! It's called PS5

Fake narrative. This device is just for hardcore PlayStation fans and early adopter enthusiasts. A very small and niche crowd of people. A lot of us who play on console don't care for higher specs and the like and it has nothing to do with the ability to buy it.

 

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For the people that can't afford our PS5 pro. We have a product for you! It's called PS5

I've seen a lot of similar posts to this throughout the day and it's quite sad. We're now at the point where we're capping on people's income.

 

[reinking]

I can't post a similar meme. I would get banned.

 

[Neo_game]

I am happy with the price tag but the specs are pretty the same leaked a year ago sadly. Most users who buy it I am sure have purchased SSD. It is very unlikely that first time user buys a Pro. So 1TB was probably enough and made it at least 50$ cheaper. It could also be that they know there will not be any competition so it is priced higher than usual. Hopefully from now on we do not get 500$ consoles. IMO you cannot have decent specs at that price range anymore. PS5 slim is still 500$ so 600$ was minimum for the Pro anyways

 

[Fess]

Biggest downside from this unveil, the fans will defend this price and Sony is going to succeed in making $700/€800 the new baseline for highend console gaming through this launch. Then PS6 will cost the same, or more.

Next Xbox was already said to be more expensive, could go higher now, $800/€900, or more, fans will defend that as well.

Nintendo's Switch successor unveil will be interesting.

 

[Radical_3d]

Probably because it was competing with Xbox One X. This time there's no direct competition.

Thanks, Spencer.

 

[DryvBy]

The ps4 pro launched in 2016 at a price of $399 and came with a disc drive.

Inflation since then is 31%.

Which means appropriately accounting for inflation, a PS5 pro with a disc drive should cost no more than $524.

Except you just compared a PS4 Pro to a PS5. I guess my 3dfx is comparable to a 4090 too?

 

[adamsapple]

 

[ArtHands]

Double the power without doubling the price, if anything this is one hell of a deal and probably too cheap. Sony should have priced it at $900

 

[Quantum253]

How many Gafers, or people you know, paid 700 (or close to) to get a hold of a PS5 in 20/21?

 

[BlitzerRadic]

Fake narrative. This device is just for hardcore PlayStation fans and early adopter enthusiasts. A very small and niche crowd of people. A lot of us who play on console don't care for higher specs and the like and it has nothing to do with the ability to buy it.

then why so many people complaining about the price? The reality is that there are many people that want a pro but they salty af that Sony priced them out.

 

[Quantum253]

Sony right now:

 

[Geruda065]

A PC isn't just a game box.

A PS5 Pro can easily hit $1k just to get going, and it's just a game box.

Hell, you can build a PC and just collect all of the free games, and still have a big backlog.
By the time you factor in console cost, a disc drive if you own physical games, an online subscription for the first year, and one game you're dropping big bucks.

And on Pc i can upgrade exactly what i want and when i want. No body forces me to change whole system for 45% gpu upgrade. Imagine if you could just swap APU on yor PS5 instead paying 800€ for new system. On PC i dont have to pray to god developer updates older game so i can use extra power. On PC i am not locked to overexpensive peripheria. No idiotic subscription. And yet people here say PCs are bad for gaming.

 

[bighugeguns]

It's incredibly lame they call this thing the "pro" but ship with a standard controller.

 

[Silver Wattle]

Sony to people complaining about the price:

 

[FunkMiller]

And on Pc i can upgrade exactly what i want and when i want. No body forces me to change whole system for 45% gpu upgrade. Imagine if you could just swap APU on yor PS5 instead paying 800€ for new system. On PC i dont have to pray to god developer updates older game so i can use extra power. On PC i am not locked to overexpensive peripheria. No idiotic subscription. And yet people here say PCs are bad for gaming.

Valve should put out a console with swappable and upgradeable parts. They'd absolutely smoke Sony and Xbox.

 

[ShakenG]

I must be out of touch. I really dont get the price outrage. Seems fine to me as an absolute worse case scenario price. Ahwell... Day1.

 

[Zathalus]

You'll get 100% better image!
And 100% more storage!

The PS4 Pro had both of those things and launched at the same price as the original PS4 price. It also included a disc drive.

That was great value, this is not.

 

[Geruda065]

Valve should put out a console with swappable and upgradeable parts. They'd absolutely smoke Sony and Xbox.

Modular console could be way to go.

 

[Banjo64]

For £700 you can build a decent PC.

For £599 you can get this pre-build from Costco:

AWD-IT Candidus 5, Intel Core i5, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, NVID...

Delivering Game Changing Performance. Built for productivity and performance with the latest NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB Graphics Card and Intel 12th gen i5-12400F gaming processor. Intel Core i5 12400F Processor – With 6 Cores and 12 threads and a Max. Boost Clock Up to 4.4GHz - making this...

www.costco.co.uk

Features
- Intel Core i5-12400F Processor
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060
- 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB NVME SSD
- Microsoft Windows 11 Home
- Mesh White Airflow Case

 

[bighugeguns]

Is Playstation in trouble? I'm getting Sega/CA vibes where they suffered some big losses and suddenly the company went into full panic mode and jacked up prices moronically.

All their big project losses, bad acquisitions and Call of Duty on Gamepass probably gives them a pretty grim outlook internally.

 

[Gen.Grievous]

The PS4 Pro had both of those things and launched at the same price as the original PS4 price. It also included a disc drive.

That was great value, this is not.

It was also 2016. Even though that is only 8 years ago the world is in a different place now. Everything is more expensive (especially tech). As a PC gamer we know this but it seems console gamers are either very naive or expect the hardware to be sold at cost or even with a small loss because they're used to this happening. The PS5 not dropping but actually increasing in price should have told you something.

 

[bighugeguns]

For £599 you can get this pre-build from Costco:

AWD-IT Candidus 5, Intel Core i5, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, NVID...

Delivering Game Changing Performance. Built for productivity and performance with the latest NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB Graphics Card and Intel 12th gen i5-12400F gaming processor. Intel Core i5 12400F Processor – With 6 Cores and 12 threads and a Max. Boost Clock Up to 4.4GHz - making this...

www.costco.co.uk

Features
- Intel Core i5-12400F Processor
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060
- 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB NVME SSD
- Microsoft Windows 11 Home
- Mesh White Airflow Case

Guaranteed an RTX 4000 running anything on DLSS 3.0 will straight up murder any proprietary Sony upscaling tech.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I love some of these Japanese user reactions to the PS5 Pro reveal.

 

[JusticeForAll]

AS a trade in, I still get 350€ for the PS5. Makes it more acceptable.

 

[bighugeguns]

AS a trade in, I still get 350€ for the PS5. Makes it more acceptable.

Yeah, as a trade-in it's not a bad deal, especially if you have a nice PSN library already.