Do you bitter critters still think PS5 is cemented as PlayStation's worst generation?
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Flintty
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I must be massively out of sync with those hardcore gamer types these days, because this is the gen where I was finally convinced to buy a PlayStation and I have no regrets. /shrug
Admittedly, I don't have much gaming time atm, but PS5 is probably my most played when I do get the time. I have an XSX, PC and a Switch.
Admittedly, I don't have much gaming time atm, but PS5 is probably my most played when I do get the time. I have an XSX, PC and a Switch.
PeteBull
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Imagine u are hyped for buying ur ps5 holidays 2020 and u see future of 0 exclusive ND games till at least 2027(and the one who launches then will be woke af),
0 exclusive games from sony bend, santa monica and polyphony digital either(Ragnarok and GT7 were crossgen), not even a reveal trailer in the middle of 2025 so 4,5 years into new gen.
Ps5 selling so well happened only coz og switch was outdated tech and weak af, pc gpu's prices skyrocketed and xbox dropped the ball worse than ever before- aka competition was weak.
If u took ps5 games and switched it with any other playstation console output- it would be considered terrible, hell even Dreamcast had many more exclusives, n64 too and those consoles arent considered success at all.
Bernardougf
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Yes as first party goes .. is a dogshit gen... and it wont change.. only if they strech this gen to 2030.
Stop trying to use third party games comingout on PC to save Sony face
Gaas strategy fucked them .. everyone knows .. so stop pretending.
Stop trying to use third party games comingout on PC to save Sony face
Gaas strategy fucked them .. everyone knows .. so stop pretending.
Bernardougf
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Change the thread to a poll and see the results. Easy as that.
Zannegan
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You mistake the point of the thread. He's not looking for feedback, and he certainly doesn't want to be ratio'd by a poll. The point was to let him present his take in the OP and cheekily characterize anyone who doesn't agree as "bitter" in the title.
Shockwave_Fox
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Really enjoyed and still enjoying my PS5 - I was never impressed with Last of Us, God of War 2018 was Ok and I enjoyed the first Spiderman game.
Only Sony first party game I really care about is Gran Turismo and 7 has been pretty decent.
Everything else has been third party - don't really get the focus on Sony specific games honestly.
Only Sony first party game I really care about is Gran Turismo and 7 has been pretty decent.
Everything else has been third party - don't really get the focus on Sony specific games honestly.
Major Insano
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The hardware and build quality is good, but the games are just as mediocre and sloppy as they've always been.
It's just a lot of Sony casuals are starting to realise it now.
It's just a lot of Sony casuals are starting to realise it now.
Schachtier
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PS4 and PS5 are basically one generation. So yes, PS5 alone is bad.
Ristifer
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Radical_3d
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This generation is so bad is blurring with the PS3 one.
It's the first Playstation I didn't get. Now that I have a decent PC with free online play (which Sony took away after the PS3) I don't see the point in a PS5 for myself.
The exclusives on PS would be a major factor but there are so few of them there now. Microsoft completely abandoned them. Since I skipped the Switch 1 the Switch 2 with backwards compatibility looks far better for me. Lots of exclusives.
The exclusives on PS would be a major factor but there are so few of them there now. Microsoft completely abandoned them. Since I skipped the Switch 1 the Switch 2 with backwards compatibility looks far better for me. Lots of exclusives.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
They would do better with the ps3
Bernardougf
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They will have a really hardtime selling me the ps6 at launch after I burned my money into a ps5pro for no reason whatsoever because the thirdparty are doing the bare minimal or even releasing worst patchs for it (im battling through a broken silent hill 2 pro patch because I got tired of waiting) and the first party games that should've utilized its power and justified my purchase of the console are nowhere to be seen.
Outside Bloodborne remake theres nothing sony can do at this moment for the first time since forever to sell me a playstation at launch.
SamuraiEdge
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I decided to skip the PS5 Pro due to PS6 likely coming in 2027 not being too far and will get this day one. Playstation will always be the home console with best use of media apps I enjoy the simplicty of
As bad as it was in many ways PS3 was at least original and unique - you could not just replace it with a PC
PS5 is just plain pointless with every game going to a better Steam version later
PS2 was Sony at their best - nothing could replace a PS2 at the time. So many exclusive titles, you swam in them
PS5 is just plain pointless with every game going to a better Steam version later
PS2 was Sony at their best - nothing could replace a PS2 at the time. So many exclusive titles, you swam in them
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Xaeroxcore666
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???? So what´s the point in having a PS5? We were fine then with a PS4 Pro.... We need more actual PS5 games like Astrobot, we needed´em badly, since in 6 months PS5 will be 5 years old and still most part of it´s catalogue consist on enhanced PS4 games. It´s like in 2005 still most part of PS2 catalogue would have been upgaded PS1 ports and people then would say "hey, that´s great!!" Da fvck it´s wrong with you?
Bernardougf
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He's in full cope mode
Bernardougf
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Best decision you made... right now Im trying to power through a horrible broken Silent Hill 2 pro version... I dont remember ps4pro games being worse than the ps4.
Topher
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We already had one. I don't know why he thinks opinions would have dramatically changed since January.
Trogdor1123
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I don't know. There have been some really great games, if not as many but that's true across the board. They also got pretty greedy but that's across the board too
I think for functions, they did some really great stuff with bc and then having older gens patch for enhanced performance.
I'm honestly unsure if generations really even applies anymore
I think for functions, they did some really great stuff with bc and then having older gens patch for enhanced performance.
I'm honestly unsure if generations really even applies anymore
Mibu no ookami
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People who are terminally online or benefit financially from telling other gamers that stuff is bad are continuously disconnected with reality.
You'll have people like Moistcritical say that it was a weak state of play, but what we actually see is massive turnout for the state of play with 2.9 million views in just over a week for the English feed and 86k likes. You had Marvel Tokon which itself has 2.4 million views and 123K likes. Pragmata has over 700K views. 007 First light has 2.9 million views on the PlayStation page alone. Nioh 3 has nearly 500K views.
I saw a lot of people on youtube who had no idea what Lumines was and thought it was stupid. These people aren't real gamers in my book. Not saying everyone needs to love Lumines, but if you don't know what it is, I think you're a tourist. That includes David Jaffe.
People are pushing controversy and discontent while the rest of us are eating good...
You'll have people like Moistcritical say that it was a weak state of play, but what we actually see is massive turnout for the state of play with 2.9 million views in just over a week for the English feed and 86k likes. You had Marvel Tokon which itself has 2.4 million views and 123K likes. Pragmata has over 700K views. 007 First light has 2.9 million views on the PlayStation page alone. Nioh 3 has nearly 500K views.
I saw a lot of people on youtube who had no idea what Lumines was and thought it was stupid. These people aren't real gamers in my book. Not saying everyone needs to love Lumines, but if you don't know what it is, I think you're a tourist. That includes David Jaffe.
People are pushing controversy and discontent while the rest of us are eating good...
Bernardougf
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Because second/third party that will also come out on pc were announced.. so that makes ps5 awsomeWe already had one. I don't know why he thinks opinions would have dramatically changed since January.
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Bernardougf
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Ps3 gave us demons souls, uncharted 2/3, the last of us, god of war 3, to name a few, I dont know how in the world is worst than this one in terms of first party. But to each their own.
Walliwallipaloo
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It's the worst generation of basically everything. PS5 is just smiling and waving in the back, while drooling and crossing its eyes.
For me I think it's relative to the competitors in the generation. PS3 was pretty crap compared to Xbox 360. But PS5 is pretty awesome compared to XSX.
Topher
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PS3 and 360 swapped places though. PS3 started out poorly but grew stronger as the gen went on. 360, on other hand, got obsessed with Kinect crap and soured what would have been a massive punch to PlayStation. Regardless,
Bernardougf
is right. The library of PS3 games was outstanding. I think folks focus too much on how the console performed against the competition and not enough on the games.
Bernardougf
Member
Well thats like saying gold is crap compared to diamonds.. but silver is awsome compared to dogshit
Therefore silver better than gold
P.s. And I strongly disagree that ps3 is crap compared to the xbox rings of death... but to each their own again
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PS3 and 360 swapped places though. PS3 started out poorly but grew stronger as the gen went on. 360, on other hand, got obsessed with Kinect crap and soured what would have been a massive punch to PlayStation. Regardless,
The Uncharted games were the main reason to have a PS3. Imagine PS3 without Naughty Dog — they were like Capcom for the GameCube.
For pretty much every other game of that generation it was better to have a 360. Games played and looked better on 360 and it had some great exclusives.
Topher
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Both 360 and PS3 had great exclusives. There was a heck of a lot more than just Uncharted. Multiplats started out rough on the PS3, but they improved greatly as the generation progressed and people were able to figure out the Cell processor.
yurinka
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Objective metrics show they have more active users than ever, playing more than ever and spending more game than ever:
I'd say this isn't compatible with having the worst generation ever, seems that they have more people than ever happy there. I assume that if not happy, at certain point people would stop playing and paying, and would leave.
I'd say this isn't compatible with having the worst generation ever, seems that they have more people than ever happy there. I assume that if not happy, at certain point people would stop playing and paying, and would leave.
Bernardougf
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All this conversation did was depress me thinking about old Naughtydog... uncharted 2 / 3 and last of us in one gen .. fuck me.. now all I have is bald chick with an attitude..PS3 and 360 swapped places though. PS3 started out poorly but grew stronger as the gen went on. 360, on other hand, got obsessed with Kinect crap and soured what would have been a massive punch to PlayStation. Regardless,
Topher
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Objective metrics show they have more active users than ever, playing more than ever and spending more game than ever:
I'd say this isn't compatible with having the worst generation ever, seems that they have more people than ever happy there. I assume that if not happy, at certain point people would stop playing and paying, and would leave.
This thread is about individual perspectives on PS generations. I don't think anyone here has said that the PS5 is the worst performing generation from a business perspective. That's not the topic at all.
TheMule1983
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Absolutely. Gave up on PlayStation this generation. Been a lifelong fan as well. Won't be buying the ps6 in the first year like I've always done.
Bernardougf
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The long development time seems to be mostly self inflicted by mismanagement of personal and resources. Sure games are taking long to make but stupidity is adding a lot of time to this.
Bernardougf
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Im the exact same boat... only Bloodborne remake would make me buy a ps6 at this point. Cant resist my goat.
All mismanagement? I'm not that sure. They are all ambitious projects, long times are the consequences. They really should start to find an alternative strategy because I think it start to be unsustainable economically such long periods.
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RuneFactoryFanboy
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It felt like with PS5, Sony had fully shifted into a company focused on catering to the western market. That's fine I guess, lots of money to be made and all, but that's not where my tastes lie.
I learned my lesson blindly buying the PS4 assuming it was going to have a great catalog of Japanese games like the previous consoles, but then I barely played the thing.
I learned my lesson blindly buying the PS4 assuming it was going to have a great catalog of Japanese games like the previous consoles, but then I barely played the thing.
Sethbacca
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It's an average generation but far from the worst. I think we'll likely end up in one of those situations where the best titles of the generation are backloaded to the end of the generation (which if we're being honest is what usually happens anyway). There has been plenty that I've been enjoying and I have zero regrets about either my PS5 initial purchase or Pro upgrade.
Bernardougf
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I think the whole culture created inside western specially american studios are a big reason for the drop in quality and quantity, you than add stupid decisions as making some studios without experience develop trend chasing gaas game later cancelled and we are were we are now.
Games taking 7 years to make is unsustainable and should not be the norm outside giant projects like GTA .
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