Costco no longer sells Xbox consoles and games

Dr. Wilkinson said:
Walmart as a chain has not removed Xbox products. They still have the section, they are just scaling back software (as Xbox moves basically to all-digital). At your store, they might be out of stock of consoles/ accessories, but they are not removing all Xbox products from Walmarts. Certainly not company-wide, anyway.
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Did I mention Walmart as a company? I only mentioned my local one, that put the section into obscurity and they have no empty section for consoles, they simply removed the consoles in store.
 
diffusionx said:
It's just unacceptable and what they are doing with their cringe "this is an Xbox" campaign is just awful.
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Skifi28 said:
The original xbox was almost a generation ahead of the PS2 in many aspects. The one X was much more powerful than the 4 pro. The series X spawned an entire thread with people prematurely dancing on the PS5's grave (I wonder if you're in there too)

But no, next time it's gonna be different for sure, because the percentages will differ slightly. Perhaps power was never the issue? Looking forward to seeing how an allegedly very expensive niche product that will succeed the console being abandoned right before our eyes will finally turn things around. I'm also excited to see all the paid shills that laughed at the pro price doing backflips to justify the even more expensive xbox.


"We're not going to grow the market with $1,000 consoles" said nobody, ever.
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Where did I write that the next Xbox was going to be a mass market success? :messenger_smiling_with_eyes: I just dared to mention that it will be more powerful than the PS6. This topic already makes certain people a little defensive, so it will be interesting to witness the reaction when Rich and the guys at DF start putting out some game comparison videos (Wolverine?) when the next gen arrives.

Skifi28 said:
I'm also excited to see all the paid shills that laughed at the pro price doing backflips to justify the even more expensive xbox.
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And no doubt you'll also be excited to see those PS Pro buyers who supposedly care about performance suddenly not being interested in the more powerful console because it doesn't have a Sony sticker on it? :pie_thinking:
 
m14 said:
And no doubt you'll also be excited to see those PS Pro buyers who supposedly care about performance suddenly not being interested in the more powerful console because it doesn't have a Sony sticker on it? :pie_thinking:
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Of course. Why would I be interested in a more powerful console that doesn't have access to all my current games and is missing whole IPs that I enjoy. I want a more powerful console but not at the cost of losing several IPs I enjoy.
 
mayham2199 said:
Of course. Why would I be interested in a more powerful console that doesn't have access to all my current games and is missing whole IPs that I enjoy. I want a more powerful console but not at the cost of losing several IPs I enjoy.
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I wasn't talking about you Mayham, you're a good guy.
 
m14 said:
Where did I write that the next Xbox was going to be a mass market success? :messenger_smiling_with_eyes: I just dared to mention that it will be more powerful than the PS6. This topic already makes certain people a little defensive, so it will be interesting to witness the reaction when Rich and the guys at DF start putting out some game comparison videos (Wolverine?) when the next gen arrives.
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Ah yes, poor neutral you. You're just here making innocent statements and the bad Sony fanboys constantly misinterpret you.

m14 said:
And no doubt you'll also be excited to see those PS Pro buyers who supposedly care about performance suddenly not being interested in the more powerful console because it doesn't have a Sony sticker on it?
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Unless one is invested in the Microsoft ecosystem, it makes no difference to them what hardware a platform they are not buying sports. The pro buyers care about performance within the playstation ecosystem, otherwise they'd just have an even more powerful PC. Of course you knew that already.
 
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m14 said:
Where did I write that the next Xbox was going to be a mass market success? :messenger_smiling_with_eyes: I just dared to mention that it will be more powerful than the PS6. This topic already makes certain people a little defensive, so it will be interesting to witness the reaction when Rich and the guys at DF start putting out some game comparison videos (Wolverine?) when the next gen arrives.


And no doubt you'll also be excited to see those PS Pro buyers who supposedly care about performance suddenly not being interested in the more powerful console because it doesn't have a Sony sticker on it? :pie_thinking:
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I have a Pro myself and really couldn't give much of a shit how "powerful" it is or isn't. Exactly the same as how the mass majority of people will still buy a PS6 over a more powerful Xbox in a few years (not that Xbox will even make one).

Why, you ask ? Because it is a much stronger eco system. It's far, far more popular. And it has been that way ever since they started making consoles in 1994.

Whether you want to ignore this or not. Xbox just doesn't have the same clout in the industry as PlayStation. That matters a fuck tonne to potential and existing buyers. It also doesn't help that MS have no idea how to run their Xbox devision. Sony does, obviously. We wouldn't be seeing 90 million PS5's if they didn't.

Sure, we can moan about the lack of first party titles coming out, but it hasn't mattered. They still sell hardware in crazy numbers, breaking records. You also have an absolute massive amount of people buying PS5's for GTA next year. MS would be happy if even 5% of those people where buying Xbox for the game at that point.

Look at things from outside of the warrior bubble, and you'll realise what an absolute pickle Xbox is currently in.
 
Astray said:
Yeah, but they love to paint it as this insurmountable wall that they couldn't climb. Well your competitors certainly didn't have the same issue when the shoe was on the other foot!

That's my real issue with this statement, I'm %1000 certain that another management team would have at least kept the gap the same this gen instead of it widening the way it has. It's absolutely their fault that things got to this very bad point.
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Might have been interesting to see what would have happened if Xbox would have came in matching Sony out of the gate at the start of that generation

MS just couldn't help themselves
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Might have been interesting to see what would have happened if Xbox would have came in matching Sony out of the gate at the start of that generation

MS just couldn't help themselves
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Coming from Xbox One, they had to do something massive, and they failed miserably. They were pretty much fucked from the get. If it wasn't for COVID helping them sell some Series S consoles whilst Sony had manufacturing issues, I think they would have gave up this gen much earlier.
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Might have been interesting to see what would have happened if Xbox would have came in matching Sony out of the gate at the start of that generation

MS just couldn't help themselves
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I feel that's the issue, at best they matched their value offering.

What they needed to do is to start providing something that's fundamentally different. You look at what Steam/Sony/Nintendo are doing, and it's almost entirely different strategies aimed at capturing different consumer trends.

I also feel like their execution simply wasn't there either. They bought up studios far too late for them to start having an impact (mainly referring the XGS roster here), and they also bought Bethesda/ABK and completely lost focus on the hardware market, once the dust settled on those they realized they have the biggest IPs, but taking some/all of them exclusive meant restricting them to the smallest HW platform and potentially killing their markets.
 
Ellis said:
Coming from Xbox One, they had to do something massive, and they failed miserably. They were pretty much fucked from the get. If it wasn't for COVID helping them sell some Series S consoles whilst Sony had manufacturing issues, I think they would have gave up this gen much earlier.
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How about make amazing games between 2018 - 2022? Is that asking too much?
 
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Horseganador said:
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/retailers-were-always-going-to-drop-xbox-over-game-pass

Market share of Xbox Series X|S console sales in UK:

2022: 31%
2025: 13%
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And that's in the biggest market for Xbox in Europe. It will go even lower next year.

That Games Industry.biz talks about how Xbox doesn't need retail in its transition to digital only and Gamepass, as if the brand will be OK because everything is an Xbox. The real challenge for MS (which isn't discussed in the article) is to convince new customers that Xbox is still a competitor, that the brand is alive. Everything that's happening right now is sending just one message: Xbox is dead.

Anyone who's been following gaming knows that Xbox gaming is in dire straits, since MS will be publishing every single game on PS5, that stores are cutting down (or removing entirely) the Xbox section and that Xbox will go PC. How the hell is MS going to convince people that Xbox is a platform worth investing in by buying a brand new next gen console or handheld when all signs say "Warning! You're entering the danger zone!!" Do people truly believe that MS is going to support new hardware for the entirety of a console generation if sales drop even lower than they are now?
 
Xaeroxcore666 said:
It´s weird. I mean, yes Xbox as a console is not on great shape, in fact they are in what seems to be their worst shape ever...And also making irrational choices like increasing prices....But in other hand Xbox lack exclusives, yes, but they´re still getting most of multiplattform AAA which are currently part of the industry´s conversation: MGS Delta, Silent Hill F, Battlefield 6, AC Shadows, Doom The Dark Ages, Silksong, Wukong, and even games from the competition like Helldivers 2 etc....And also they will receive long awaited killer apps like RE 9 and GTA 6 next year, among many other games...and let alone all Bethesda, Activision and MS games Studios upcoming titles. Heck! even the Xbox One is still getting nw games! So..yes, Xbox Series was defeated in sales by PS5 but they are still getting lotta stuff and still have a relatively decent userbase, i mean around 30 million of systems...So...are we just witnessing the equivalent of what was the 2001 for Dreamcast, in which the console was dead since march, but still getting pending projects during the whole year, even AAA and AA games 1st party , but also multiplattform last gen quickport stuff with big names like Alone in The Dark IV, Spider-Man, Matt Hoffman´s (Xbox Series, and PS5, still have a catalogue mainly crossgen) and even some 3rd party games shared with PS2 like Unreal Tournament, Evil Twin, Stunt GP, RE Code Veronica X and Capcom vs SNK 2, etc? (all Xbox releases are basically multi stuff shared with PS5). Could be a similar scenario? GTA VI and RE 9 among other 2026 upcoming third party AAA titles have risk of being cancelled for Xbox Series?
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I highly doubt third party will skip putting games on series consoles. While we don't know the exact numbers, even 20 million is a lot of potential customers. Porting nowdays doesn't cost as much as it used to( systems in general are very similar and they already have pipelines for porting to series consoles). Next gen console might run into trouble but because it is goind to be a pc hybrid, there still won't be an issue with games not coming to Xbox. Currently for publishers, it is all about porting games to as many platforms as they can.
m14 said:
You and a few others should keep that link bookmarked for when Digital Foundry start posting Next Xbox vs PS6 game comparison videos.

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Didn't df say, just a a week or so ago, that they are finding it extremely difficult to get Xbox review codes? And that people aren't seeing Xbox reviews when they do post them?.

What you are imagining might not even happen.
 
diffusionx said:
Xbox fans have been talking up Microsoft's Machiavellian path to market dominance since the "war for the living room" all those years ago. When in reality they have just been firing wildly and using their vast amounts of money to push forward.

MS does not know what they are doing and they are not good at hardware. I've been saying it for years, they would operate best as a third party publisher and should move towards doing that.
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As a side there was war for the living room. But everyone lost out to mobile. And smart TVs.
 
We really are heading into a future with only a single traditional console left on the market (with Switch being its own thing). Not sure that's a good thing, Sony needs competition to stay on its toes. I guess that competition is now PC?
 
RoadHazard said:
We really are heading into a future with only a single traditional console left on the market (with Switch being its own thing). Not sure that's a good thing, Sony needs competition to stay on its toes. I guess that competition is now PC?
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Pretty much

But who knows, Switch 2 or Switch 3 could get a more powerful TV-only version.
 
Insanemaelstrom said:
I highly doubt third party will skip putting games on series consoles. While we don't know the exact numbers, even 20 million is a lot of potential customers. Porting nowdays doesn't cost as much as it used to( systems in general are very similar and they already have pipelines for porting to series consoles). Next gen console might run into trouble but because it is goind to be a pc hybrid, there still won't be an issue with games not coming to Xbox. Currently for publishers, it is all about porting games to as many platforms as they can.

Didn't df say, just a a week or so ago, that they are finding it extremely difficult to get Xbox review codes? And that people aren't seeing Xbox reviews when they do post them?.

What you are imagining might not even happen.
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Publishers bring games to platforms if games actually sell there, not just because they "exist". Even switch, PS, and PC get passed over at times despite their massive user base. The software situation with Xbox is even more dire than the hardware.
 
bitbydeath said:
Have you heard recently if it's still going ahead?
Curious, as things may change, like the handheld.
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In all honesty I have been super busy last several weeks and have not gamed much with that group that would 100% know

That said someone would have shot me a text or DM or something if the next Xbox console would have been scrapped (I would have hoped they would have anyhow)

I am 99.9% in the camp its still coming

Edit - The handheld never really made sense to me since they were pushing the ROG so hard and their own handheld would have been competing with this ROG one that already had an Xbox logo on it
 
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HeisenbergFX4 said:
In all honesty I have been super busy last several weeks and have not gamed much with that group that would 100% know

That said someone would have shot me a text or DM or something if the next Xbox console would have been scrapped (I would have hoped they would have anyhow)

I am 99.9% in the camp its still coming

Edit - The handheld never really made sense to me since they were pushing the ROG so hard and their own handheld would have been competing with this ROG one that already had an Xbox logo on it
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Thanks, appreciate the response.
 
T-0800 said:
That people will buy?
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Oh I don't remotely pretend to think its going to sell well at all

I think Xbox with its current leadership is fucked and unless they clean house and bring in a lot of fresh faces with different ideas its only a matter of time before Xbox is 100% dead and gone

I do think this upcoming generation will indeed be their last true Xbox console
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
In all honesty I have been super busy last several weeks and have not gamed much with that group that would 100% know

That said someone would have shot me a text or DM or something if the next Xbox console would have been scrapped (I would have hoped they would have anyhow)

I am 99.9% in the camp its still coming

Edit - The handheld never really made sense to me since they were pushing the ROG so hard and their own handheld would have been competing with this ROG one that already had an Xbox logo on it
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Can I ask you about one thing? In your opinion... will it make any difference? Idk if you remember, but i commented some time ago that MS is making a ABSOLUTE effort to make Xbox brand as important to the market as... the Surface brand. Do we (market) care if a new Surface device is release ? WIll we (market) care if a new Xbox device is released? Using this logic IMHO, it makes no difference if MS will release a new dedicated gaming machine or not... that it's 100% MS fault, becuase they decided to stick to a unsustainable plan and a bunch of yes men...
 
PauloRoberto said:
Can I ask you about one thing? In your opinion... will it make any difference? Idk if you remember, but i commented some time ago that MS is making a ABSOLUTE effort to make Xbox brand as important to the market as... the Surface brand. Do we (market) care if a new Surface device is release ? WIll we (market) care if a new Xbox device is released? Using this logic IMHO, it makes no difference if MS will release a new dedicated gaming machine or not... that it's 100% MS fault, becuase they decided to stick to a unsustainable plan and a bunch of yes men...
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100% in my opinion its going to sell worse than current Series sales figures especially if the rumor holds true it will be online sales only (that I have no clue)

Plus their games are heading to PS I would guess only the truly hardcore Xbox fans would buy this next console

Its funny because I am certain we are getting another Xbox console but I would not be surprised at all if any moment we get an Xbox video saying they made the hard decision to stop making hardware
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
100% in my opinion its going to sell worse than current Series sales figures especially if the rumor holds true it will be online sales only (that I have no clue)

Plus their games are heading to PS I would guess only the truly hardcore Xbox fans would buy this next console

Its funny because I am certain we are getting another Xbox console but I would not be surprised at all if any moment we get an Xbox video saying they made the hard decision to stop making hardware
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If MS is stupid enough that nextbox will be sold online only... it will be really a "surface 2: eletric bogaloo device' and it stinks like a 'base model for third parties'. Good lord, it's a case study of how to burn a brand to the ground :-D
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Its funny because I am certain we are getting another Xbox console but I would not be surprised at all if any moment we get an Xbox video saying they made the hard decision to stop making hardware
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Yea I believe you when you say you are positive they are working on a new console and it's coming but I think it's also a real possibility that they decide not to do it last minute.
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
I didn't even see that at first now I can't unsee it

Not sure what we are supposed to take from a single page showing only Switch stuff though
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In this specific case... i believe it's WHO shared the message that is more important... if a x-shiller is showing that Walmart is giving up on xbox (and walmart would sell our and their mothers, given the change)... that strangely syncs with my opinion of a brand that... 'nobody' cares
 
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