Kacho
Gold Member
If it wasn't for the sales discussion we wouldn't be hearing about the game.
Ghost of Yotei sales- er, number of players update
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Mortisfacio
Member
I only hear about the game on GAF. None of my gamer friends or work buddies have talked about Yotei.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Nope. There are more morons that want to discredit the game itself due to controversies. There would be no need to "validate" it if not for that. Most people who actually play the game will tell you it's a better game than the first.
Skifi28
Member
Mine do, even some that are not even on console were asking about it.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Exactly! Sometimes I hate Mat Pigsetella.
Kokoloko85
Member
If its sold around the same as GOT with a smaller install base, then its a gonna be decent
Kokoloko85
Member
Its a better game in most ways, character and story is the only thing that can be better in GOT for some people. But the game itself is better in most ways. Combat, missions, open world, NPC interactions, even if not by much, its better
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This is the dumbest sales logic, I've seen on GAF this year. Yall gotta get better than this. And you two both know better than to say something as dumb as this. You know darn well that a game's budget and profit margin have literally NOTHING to do with the percentage of the total user base plays the game.
Just stop it!
Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
I'm counted as a player but I bought it used. So I'm not a sale.
I was able to get a used copy and have it shipped to my house by the Thursday after launch. So I got it within a week.
I was able to get a used copy and have it shipped to my house by the Thursday after launch. So I got it within a week.
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FUBARx89
Member
Account sharing should be factored into it aswell. Almost everyone I know account shares.
Players is a bullshit metric.
Vlodril
Member
This is just a very small percentages in forums. The perception is better than Tsushima. It is higher in reviews and so far it has the same user high score on OC . It seems to be selling about the same (maybe a bit better or maybe a bit worse we can't tell yet).
Anything else is your extreme bias working overtime. Same goes for the guy before that said Spider-man 2 was a disaster. Same OC as the first game and sold faster than any other game. Also is above 11m as of last year (no idea what the sales are now).
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Plus people forget that Circana has no authority to release any numbers, even monthly charts are not detailed and people mostly extrapolate. So this is Mat's way to tiptoe NDA, hence the usage of percentages and 'players'. Sales are fine.
midnightAI
Member
Oh, I see, the 3.5 million sounds too good, lets change that to only 4%, that's better, that sounds pathetic
Ogbert
Member
I know they don't. That's the problem.
I'm not criticising the game at all. And GoY's budget is actually much more reasonable than some of the other first party fare.
But those figures underline why publishers are so reluctant to greenlight anything other than the most conservative, iterative sequels.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
If it's not a Live Service game, the "players" metric is always BS.
Totally pathetic. Nobody in the industry cares about the percentage of players total relative to the amount of units of console sold for their game is. It's a total useless stat. If a console sells 120 million units and sells 5 million copies in the first month for $70, that's only 4.2% of the userbase. But that's also $350 Million in revenue in one month!!!
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Im saying it as more of , its a shame that more of Sonys userbase doesnt show up for their biggest game of the year. But, when you look at the below
3.5 Million for a weekend is not bad at all for a launch weekend, if its that high.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Nearly all games don't even touch 4% of the userbase at launch, so I don't know what you're even talking about.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
how many "active PS users that week" were there though? To me, that doesn't read as "4% of all PS owners" it reads as "of all the people that played their PS systems that week, 4% played GoY". Those statements are not the same thing at all.
Do we know which he meant or are we going by the exact wording of what he said?
If the context is "4% of ps players that week played it" that is not the same as converting the number of systems sold and making an assumption on what it sold. This tells us nothing at all.
Do we know which he meant or are we going by the exact wording of what he said?
If the context is "4% of ps players that week played it" that is not the same as converting the number of systems sold and making an assumption on what it sold. This tells us nothing at all.
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Zacfoldor
Member
Honestly, I did end up buying....but Sony or SP or whoever hurt the game badly by picking an ugly female MC instead of Jin again or a pretty woman.
Is it really any wonder that people like Asmongold would not give a shit about your generic game if the MC was generic and ugly?
Here's the truth. The game has enough in it to have been huge. It could have been Ghosts of Tsushima 2 and been a giant, great game.
Instead you have to look at that horseface the whole time and you end up having to remove the MC in photo mode to even send someone a screenshot because nobody gets excited or wants to look at horseface.
The story is not good enough to justify horse face and it is not natural or necessary to have a horse face on your main female character when let's face it, 99% of your audience are men and the 1% who are female are female gamers and probably want the MC sexy too. So tired of this woke shit killing any hype a game may achieve by putting a big ugly face on the MC and calling it a day and pretending like it didn't hurt sales. No, it did. Ugly people do not sell, duh Sony! Stop trying to put them in shit. It's just like Intergalactic the Heretic Profit. Honestly, I'd rather Sony just not make anything than give us disappointments.
Is it really any wonder that people like Asmongold would not give a shit about your generic game if the MC was generic and ugly?
Here's the truth. The game has enough in it to have been huge. It could have been Ghosts of Tsushima 2 and been a giant, great game.
Instead you have to look at that horseface the whole time and you end up having to remove the MC in photo mode to even send someone a screenshot because nobody gets excited or wants to look at horseface.
The story is not good enough to justify horse face and it is not natural or necessary to have a horse face on your main female character when let's face it, 99% of your audience are men and the 1% who are female are female gamers and probably want the MC sexy too. So tired of this woke shit killing any hype a game may achieve by putting a big ugly face on the MC and calling it a day and pretending like it didn't hurt sales. No, it did. Ugly people do not sell, duh Sony! Stop trying to put them in shit. It's just like Intergalactic the Heretic Profit. Honestly, I'd rather Sony just not make anything than give us disappointments.
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Ogbert
Member
A comparison to Nintendo first party is actually unfair, because the Switch is useless for third party so the install base is far more likely to be there solely for Mario and Mario Kart. Engagement is a given.
There are tens of millions that will own a PS5 for the best and most convenient way of accessing third party games and have zero interest in anything that isn't FIFA or CoD. That will naturally drive down the percentage of users buying first party.
There are tens of millions that will own a PS5 for the best and most convenient way of accessing third party games and have zero interest in anything that isn't FIFA or CoD. That will naturally drive down the percentage of users buying first party.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Now that Xbox is dead I can whatever number to fit my narrative
Fake
Member
You sir have good point.
Kvally
Member
Playing the game, she isn't bad looking at all. In real life, that's another story.
Zacfoldor
Member
Hades 2 is awesome on Switch 2 and it isn't on the PS5 or XSX. It is easily goty contender with 94 metacritic. I suspect games like Yakuza 0 and Split Fiction would be great on the console as well. I suspect FFTactics or Silksong would be great too on Switch 2. Why do you think Switch 2 has useless 3rd party? Switch 1 3rd party was great.
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Not exactly. There are households with family members who share games but it certainly is'nt like a game on a subscription, so it's not as far off in comparison to sales as that.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Pretty damn impressive i would say.
Last gen when GoT launched, the PS4 install base was around 100 million. So 4.4% of that would be 4.4 million. We know the game sold 2.5 million in the first 3 days. So 4.4 million in the first two weeks makes sense.
PS5 is around 85 million iirc, and a lot of PS users are still on PS4. The last figures i saw were around 125 million monthly users. That would put it around 5 million after two weeks. not bad at all.
i dont know why so many people want this game to fail. it isnt woke. shes not a lesbian. there is no black lead in the game. they fired the asshole who made fun of charlie kirk's death. the game is better than the original. wtf is up with people wanting it to fail?
Last gen when GoT launched, the PS4 install base was around 100 million. So 4.4% of that would be 4.4 million. We know the game sold 2.5 million in the first 3 days. So 4.4 million in the first two weeks makes sense.
PS5 is around 85 million iirc, and a lot of PS users are still on PS4. The last figures i saw were around 125 million monthly users. That would put it around 5 million after two weeks. not bad at all.
i dont know why so many people want this game to fail. it isnt woke. shes not a lesbian. there is no black lead in the game. they fired the asshole who made fun of charlie kirk's death. the game is better than the original. wtf is up with people wanting it to fail?
Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
I don't know if it's just me, and don't remember if the first one was like this, but my issue with the game so far (about 3-4 hours in) is that it feels so chopped up.
Maybe it's cause I've been playing Silent Hill 2 and Hell Is Us, but I feel like every few minutes they take control away. Like after you kill every 4 enemies there's a control take away talking part. It feels overproduced to me so far. Just let me play the game. I haven't fought the main bosses or bigger camps yet, so maybe that feeling will subside some soon.
Maybe it's cause I've been playing Silent Hill 2 and Hell Is Us, but I feel like every few minutes they take control away. Like after you kill every 4 enemies there's a control take away talking part. It feels overproduced to me so far. Just let me play the game. I haven't fought the main bosses or bigger camps yet, so maybe that feeling will subside some soon.
Ogbert
Member
Sure. There are a few great titles here and there. And developers will continue to support it.
But I'm talking about your standard CoD, FIFA, Battlefield bro. They're not buying a Switch 2 to play those games.
How so? The OT is normally on Gafs top page with people playing/discussing the game.
Woopah
Member
It's the % of people who played PS4/5 in the US that week.
And ultimately people in the industry do care about this kind of data, because they are the ones paying Circana to make it.
It's the second statement, all the people who played Playstation that week.
Kacho
Gold Member
So is the Final Fantasy Tactics OT. Doesn't mean anything.
But I'm also talking about the broader internet discussion. GoY came and went like Death Stranding 2, which isn't surprising for safe, unspectacular sequels.
Take a small guess with respect to the tribalism that some have.
They normally share them at earning reports or at significant milestones.
yeah it does, It means people are hearing and talking about the game outside of sales discussions.
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Pedro Motta
Gold Member
Their favorite brand is in the gutter
Saber
Newd Member
Also I'm pretty sure youtubers/content creators are also only doing content about it because of ingoing controversy/drama, so theres that.
Kacho
Gold Member
Not at all. OTs are for a small but dedicated enthusiast bubble. Outside of that the discussion is about sales.
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L*][*N*K
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yeah I am sorry but do you believe that the 300m they spent on Spider-Man 2 was for licensing fees?? The game is literally a collaboration between Marvel and Sony who btw owns Spider-Man movie rights do you actually believe they took a 100m licensing fee?? This makes sense to you or you are snorting copium?
calico
Member
He didn't use MaU or 'bought'.
He didn't say 4.4% of PS5 owners worldwide played it.
Fbh
Member
The player number thing is only a bad sign when it's coming from the actual publisher.
I imagine this one wasn't a mega hit but did quite well overall.
I think that's basically it.
It's another more of the same sequel by Sony, for a game that itself was already pretty derivative. Outside of people who are actually playing it there just isn't much to talk about with Yotei.
It's not like E33 which was a new Ip, by a new studio that came a bit out of nowhere and opened up a discussion about turn based JRPGs and what can be made by smaller teams.
Or Monster Hunter world which made some substantial changes (and had plenty of tech issues).
Or Silksong which made headlines with the really high player numbers, pushing other devs to delay their games to get out of the way and the entire debate about the difficulty.
I imagine this one wasn't a mega hit but did quite well overall.
I think that's basically it.
It's another more of the same sequel by Sony, for a game that itself was already pretty derivative. Outside of people who are actually playing it there just isn't much to talk about with Yotei.
It's not like E33 which was a new Ip, by a new studio that came a bit out of nowhere and opened up a discussion about turn based JRPGs and what can be made by smaller teams.
Or Monster Hunter world which made some substantial changes (and had plenty of tech issues).
Or Silksong which made headlines with the really high player numbers, pushing other devs to delay their games to get out of the way and the entire debate about the difficulty.
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Pedro Motta
Gold Member
I have 30 or so friends on PSN, at least 12 of those are playing GoY. It's rare to have do many playing the same game, usually it's 5 or 6, the most I ever saw was Raganarok, 9 people at the same time.
Werd metric I know, but whatever haha
Werd metric I know, but whatever haha
squidilix
Member
PS5 Active player base or PSN active player base? This number is REALLY different. I supposed he talk PS5 Active Player base wich is close to 3.500 000. (80 000 000M of PS5)
If we talk PSN active user base, wich is like 120M each month, then Ghost of Yotei player are close to 5.412.000 .
Kvally
Member
kiphalfton
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viveks86
Member
If the game didn't fail, the "boycott" did. And that's not an acceptable result for those who spent time and energy on the topic. The whole point of a boycott that goes beyond a personal decision is to prevent a certain product/idea from succeeding, in order to send a message. So until sales numbers are actually out, why give up?
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