clarky
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So is a used car if you get a bargain but fucking useless if you need to use it for gaming on the go, just like a thinkpad.
Jesus you are painful as fuck.
[IGN] Gaming Laptops Are a Better Deal Than The Xbox Ally X
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Bernkastel
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For me ThinkPad is more valuable due to it being reliable. And the 1 TB SSD has enough space to dual boot Linux.
StereoVsn
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Actually that's a good point. You can get latest M5 iPad Pro 11 for $1K. Different gaming libraries, but it's a much more versatile device, especially now with iOS 26.
MisterXDTV
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I got an iPad Mini 7 like new for $430 last month, you can't do PC gaming on it, but you can do a thousand things better on it compared to a PC handheld
Bernkastel
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Laptops are built for gaming on the go.
clarky
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Yeah i see them all the time on the bus.
I was playing mine in bed until it blew up and burned the house down.
My main gaming hardware consists of a 5080 and also 4090 laptop btw.
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Bernkastel
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Steam Deck/Switch 2/Upcoming Playstation handheld are sufficient for those that want to go that route. No need for a 1000$ Ally.
clarky
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That wasn't what you said and a completely different discussion.
My gaming habits are fulfilled with exactly what you describe, so again I'm not sure what your point is.
Also im not sure how an imaginary handheld that hasn't been announced factors into things.
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StereoVsn
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You can also stream from a regular PC or console as well. Tablets are pretty versatile and iOS now even has emulation (not as good as on Android).
You can also get a Samsung S11 and that thing can play Android games, stream and emulate up to including PS2/GameCube.
Either way, if you don't have one, it's a better buy vs a handheld PC , IMO.
Bernkastel
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Your gaming habits can be fulfilled without spending 1000 USD on Ally X.
Team Andromeda
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Don't baffle IGN with facts
Team Andromeda
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Hardcore *rollseyes*
Horseganador
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They are two completely different products, it is a pointless comparison.
reinking
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I have done all of those things with a laptop. So, maybe?
clarky
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Im not considering one. What gives you that impression?
Tobimacoss
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Steam Deck is for Steam exclusive users
Switch 2 is for Nintendo games
PS6 Canis is for those within the PS ecosystem.
Xbox Ally is for Xbox and Windows users.
It's not that hard to understand.
clarky
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Its very hard to understand apparently.
Cyberpunkd
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Can I play on your ThinkPad in bed?
manfestival
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Just realized what I wrote but what I actually meant was XX50 not 50 series as in 50XX(which I know is what 50 series actually means). I have had a laptop with a 4080 and its a banger. My desktop is a 4090
dragonyeuw
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Granted, the PC handheld and laptops obviously have two different forms/functions. But when Lenovo priced the Go 2 between $1100-$1480, my first thought was 'well at this point I'd just get a laptop'.
For me the value proposition of a handheld diminishes when its pricing gets into the ballpark range of traditional PC/laptops. The Steam Deck pricing between $400-600 was the sweet spot, maybe up to $700 like the original Go and Ally devices. $1000 and up puts it into the category of more powerful devices albeit in a different form factor. I guess the question is how much personal value do you assign to the portable handheld factor before the asking price is too much?
For me the value proposition of a handheld diminishes when its pricing gets into the ballpark range of traditional PC/laptops. The Steam Deck pricing between $400-600 was the sweet spot, maybe up to $700 like the original Go and Ally devices. $1000 and up puts it into the category of more powerful devices albeit in a different form factor. I guess the question is how much personal value do you assign to the portable handheld factor before the asking price is too much?
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Bernkastel
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Bernkastel
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You can play epic games, gog and other launchers in steam Deck with lutris or heroic launcher. As far as I am aware, Steam covers all your PC gaming needs. If instead of the superior Linux experience you want the closed spyware experience of Windows, you can always have other windows handhelds. But Steam Deck, Switch 2 and upcoming Playstation handheld are at a reasonable price point, so I mentioned them.
Also Ally X can't play most of your Xbox library, especially not 360/OG BC, so I don't know why you said someone who has Xbox console will buy this. Windows 11 is worse than Xbox System Software.
Bernkastel
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Good for you. My point was that ThinkPad is better investment than Ally X. I didn't mean Steam Deck, Switch 2 and upcoming Playstation handheld.
clarky
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Not if you need a handheld it isn't. Which was my point. We can do this all night if you like.
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djjinx2
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The unannounced imaginary Playstation Handheld is reasonably priced huh.
You are absolutely not from this world are you.
Makes Jez Corden seem very normal, or did Phil touch you as a kid?
Keep on fanboying brother
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Bernkastel
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It has to be reasonably priced of they are making a custom SoC pledging 10 millions units to AMD. I am expecting reasonable price from the creators of PSP and Vita.
Bernkastel
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If you need a handheld, you will get the better options I mentioned
clarky
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Which has precisely what to do with your claim that a thinkpad is a better option than an Ally?
Buggy Loop
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What are you even trying to say here for like 2 pages? Every fucking handhelds on the planet including one we do not even have an announcement of is better and sufficient, but a thinkpad is better than a $1000 ally?
Bernkastel
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Get a good handheld or get a good gaming laptop or get a ThinkPad.
Why would you need a Ally X?
Buggy Loop
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Bernkastel
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Yes. ThinkPads are amazing laptops.
Especially loved by the Linux community for it's build quality.
clarky
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No idea, I never said i wanted one, but if i did i certainly wouldn't buy a thinkpad instead.
I already have a 4090 laptop, 5080 laptop and a Switch 2. As I told you earlier my gaming needs are covered.
I was simply pointing out that if actually was in the market for another handheld and i fancied an Ally then the last thing id be considering would be a midrange work station with integrated graphics.
Its fucking retarded to think that would even be an option to fulfill someones handheld gaming needs. Are there better handhelds out there? Of course there are but again that wasn't the discussion.
I'm disengaging from this frankly stupid conversation.
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Bernkastel
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My original comment was not addressed to you though.
Why did you think it's about you?
Buggy Loop
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You still don't answer, why would every other handhelds including a non existing one be a better solution if someone wants the current powerful handheld on the market right now not consider an Ally X over a thinkpad
Bernkastel
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Its about the games.
Switch 2 can play Switch and Switch 2 games.
The upcoming Playstation handheld will let you play PS4 and select PS5 games.
Steam Deck will give you access to Steam at half the price of Ally X.
Why would want a Ally X?
Buggy Loop
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Why would you want a thinkpad for a gaming portable?
If you want a powerful steam deck you have to upgrade to Asus' portables
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Bernkastel
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Steam Deck really is enough for a PC handheld though.Why would you want a thinkpad for a gaming portable?
If you want a powerful steam deck you have to upgrade to Asus' portables
Crayon
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Since you'd be carrying the handheld in a backpack or luggage (unless you have a fitted carrying case with a strap? Ha so convenient all I have to do is wear this purse lol), a thinner lappy or tablet can actually fit better in the bag.
BUT, I consider a controller and chunky battery necessary accessories for me and that adds to the weight and awkwardness quite a bit. A handheld does usualln need some kind of protective cae though and that bulks it up. The portable is easier to get around but I don't think the laptop too much worse once I leave with the whole kit.
Buggy Loop
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That's very much subjective
There's a huge difference between top line rog ally and steam deck for performances. You get what you pay for.
djjinx2
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I have a Steam Deck and put Windows on it, I would love an Ally X if I had the spare cash.
I use windows for games with anti cheat, the power boost from the Ally X would be great for emulating newer devices where the steam deck struggles too.
Steam Deck is nowhere near enough for a PC handheld. Not even close. (IT IS A great value machine though)
hinch7
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Maybe if you play only just indies and older games. For newer titles there just isn't enough hardware grunt to power them to a satisfactory level. Fyi I have one.
I also have an Intel Lunar Lake laptop which performs similarly to the Z2 Extreme in the Xbox Ally X and the newer chips are another league when it comes to performance. Sadly the Z2E handhelds are considerably more expensive than Z1E that came before them. And only offer a modest bump in performance for over 50% cost in many cases, if not more. There's a lot of reasons to own an Ally X if you haven't got one already as it is one of if not the best PC handheld released so far and is a good starting point for normal, less tech savvy people. Like you can boot up and play new games like Battlefield 6 in a small form factor and on the go.. without the hassle of finicking about with the OS + peripherals as your would with a desktop/laptop.
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Mister Wolf
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Buggy Loop
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Biggest problem with it all is still the use of FSR. My eye can spot it a mile away at low resolution. It's very distracting. Immediatly if I had one of those handheld it would be FSR 4 mods everywhere.
Mister Wolf
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Yup. The Auto SR update can't come soon enough. Anything else is better than using FSR3.