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[PlayStaytion]

This thread confuses me. I do not believe the PS6 will run a PS5 Pro game because they do not exist. I believe it will run a pS5 game enhanced with whatever version of upscaling the PS6 uses. If anything, the PS5 Pro was a way for Sony to get experience with PSSR working with PS5 games. Why would they not be able to take that knowledge and use it on the newer version of PSSR?

These are just choices they have to make and some of them comes with trades that exceeds the usual performance gains from newer architectures.

 

[TBiddy]

Better than ignoring what's right in front of your face.

But to be fair, that's pretty much a prerequisite for people of your ilk these days so it's very much on-brand.

Awww, that's cute. I love how you think of me like that.

But please do elaborate - "people of your ilk"? Are you referring to my skincolor, my country of origin or are you gonna start pretending that you didn't know I'm black?

 

[Mr Moose]

Awww, that's cute. I love how you think of me like that.

But please do elaborate - "people of your ilk"? Are you referring to my skincolor, my country of origin or are you gonna start pretending that you didn't know I'm green?

Fixed.

 

[Fafalada]

So unless RDNA5 WMMA h/w will drop support for these math types (highly unlikely) I don't see how it wouldn't be able to run PSSR1.

Data types aren't a problem, but Pro introduced specific SIMD extensions for matrix math that aren't in 'standard' RDNA shader ISA.
Kepler was likely referencing this may be absent(it certainly won't be in standard RDNA5).

Flipside is of course that PS4Pro had similar custom instructions and flags that don't exist in other GPUs , and so did 1X and both were brought forward into their successors.
Likewise I expect Magnus to inherit Series X custom ops(assuming MS doesn't pull the plug).
Could the PS5 pro be an exception to that trend? Sure, but really no way of knowing until ps6 chips come out.

 

[GHG]

Awww, that's cute. I love how you think of me like that.

But please do elaborate - "people of your ilk"? Are you referring to my skincolor, my country of origin or are you gonna start pretending that you didn't know I'm black?

 

[rkofan87]

I remember when the PS5 only had backward compatibility with 100 games.

If FUD didn't work a year before launch, it will work if it starts 3 years before LOL

is this a joke??

 

[Thicc Enigma]

The PS6 will still run PS4/PS5 games and then using wherever proprietary AI upscaling they have by then. So what's the point of this thread lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

If, by PS5 pro games, you mean patches, then it is probably because they want you to buy the new ps6 patch for the games instead.

It will be purely intentional

Nobody buys patches, goofy.

 

[Edgelord79]

It might though. It just might…

 

[PlayStaytion]

Awww, that's cute. I love how you think of me like that.

But please do elaborate - "people of your ilk"? Are you referring to my skincolor, my country of origin or are you gonna start pretending that you didn't know I'm black?

Is it acceptable that I felt the majority of this forum are Black?

 

[Ar¢tos]

Is it acceptable that I felt the majority of this forum are Black?

It will depend on the shade of black, what shade you feel us to be?

 

[Physiognomonics]

Data types aren't a problem, but Pro introduced specific SIMD extensions for matrix math that aren't in 'standard' RDNA shader ISA.
Kepler was likely referencing this may be absent(it certainly won't be in standard RDNA5).

Flipside is of course that PS4Pro had similar custom instructions and flags that don't exist in other GPUs , and so did 1X and both were brought forward into their successors.
Likewise I expect Magnus to inherit Series X custom ops(assuming MS doesn't pull the plug).
Could the PS5 pro be an exception to that trend? Sure, but really no way of knowing until ps6 chips come out.

They did include ID Buffer hardware on PS5 which allowed easy BC of all PS4 Pro games using it. But will they include the INT8 matrix instructions on PS6? Cerny implied in his interview that they were not doing anymore custom hardware for Playstation.

For Magnus Kepler already told us that the GPU part was 100% RDNA5. But they could include custom ops on the CPU chip I guess. EDIT: Ha I just read Kepler that the xbox custom ops are going to be integrated into standard RDNA5 so making them available for Magnus. Smart. But Playstation may want to get rid of those to save die space for their GPU.

 

[PlayStaytion]

It will depend on the shade of black, what shade you feel us to be?

That's beyond my understanding, it took me decades to understand the deference between all 5 different human races respectively, and I made a lot of friends from every continent. I could tell denying the existence of any race is disrespectful and a major problem on every aspect of life.

 

[Ar¢tos]

That's beyond my understanding, it took me decades to understand the deference between all 5 different human races respectively, and I made a lot of friends from every continent. I could tell denying the existence of any race is disrespectful and a major problem on every aspect of life.

It was a joke to show that it's pointless to assign such labels to people.
People that want to discriminate will always find subdivisions to do it.

 

[TBiddy]

I'm sorry that my skin colour offends you. But please stop the racist remarks in the future. Thanks.

 

[GHG]

I'm sorry that my skin colour offends you. But please stop the racist remarks in the future. Thanks.

This is some of the lowest IQ shit I've seen in all my time on this forum.

First you drop the race card because you've run out of things to say and can't cope. Secondly (which is what really makes this so hilarious), I'm a black guy myself.

But yes darling, it's all about your skin colour, which also happens to be my skin colour.

 

[Det]

is this a joke??

It also said that the PS5 didn't have RT, it was software RT.

That the clock speed was unsustainable, and as the generation progressed, the PS5 would lose power due to the weight of the games, forcing the console to lower its clock speeds.

Alex Bugava from DF said that the PS5 beat an RTX 2070 in Death Stranding because the game didn't use the CPU, allowing the GPU to run at its maximum clock speed. As soon as the demanding games came out, the CPU would be truly used and the GPU's performance would decrease.

And that idiot Alex Bugava still said that Cerny was the one who said it would be like that.

LOL

The ultimate delusion, the first time in history that a console would become "weaker" as the generation progressed... All this because the resentful and spoiled can't accept another Sony victory.

But to put it in context, Cerny said they had already tested the 100 most played PS4 games on the PS5's backwards compatibility.
Then it became "I don't know, I think there are only 100 games on backwards compatibility."

 

[TBiddy]

This is some of the lowest IQ shit I've seen in all my time on this forum.

First you drop the race card because you've run out of things to say and can't cope. Secondly (which is what really makes this so hilarious), I'm a black guy myself.

But yes darling, it's all about your skin colour, which also happens to be my skin colour.

If you're indeed a black man, why are you throwing racist remarks around? It makes no sense.

That said, I'm still waiting for the lovely Bernkastel to support his claims that said guy was employed by Microsoft. Feel free to help him. You seemed very insistent as well. I assume it's just you begging for my attention as usual though. You don't care about Bernkastel, that guy who was accused of shilling or any of that.

Aww, demigod has arrived as well. The dynamic duo is together again to valiantly patrol the Forums of Gaf!

 

[StueyDuck]

This sounds like news from someone who doesnt understand what upscalers do

 

[Fafalada]

They did include ID Buffer hardware on PS5

Also multi-resolution render-targets.

Cerny implied in his interview that they were not doing anymore custom hardware for Playstation.

I'm not sure I'd take that entirely at face value - the Amethyst collab probably just means it's jointly developed tech available to everyone but it could still be first (or only) in Playstation depending on the use. But it's far to say we don't know how they'll handle PS5 BC - yet.

EDIT: Ha I just read Kepler that the xbox custom ops are going to be integrated into standard RDNA5 so making them available for Magnus.

Did he actually say that? Because that's changing the narrative a bit from that Lisa interview where there were allusions of 'special' BC extensions - and everyone concluded it could be Magnus/MS exclusive. It'd be nice if RDNA5 got all of it and we just get XBox BC on standard PCs as well.

 

[GHG]

If you're indeed a black man, why are you throwing racist remarks around? It makes no sense.

That said, I'm still waiting for the lovely Bernkastel to support his claims that said guy was employed by Microsoft. Feel free to help him. You seemed very insistent as well. I assume it's just you begging for my attention as usual though. You don't care about Bernkastel, that guy who was accused of shilling or any of that.

Aww, demigod has arrived as well. The dynamic duo is together again to valiantly patrol the Forums of Gaf!

Where's the racist remark?

You're failing to read the room here in more ways than one. But like I said, really not surprising, it goes with the territory.

 

[Steve Holt]

People doing tech support in their free time, for a company that has a previous for campaigns of astroturfing, doesn't sound quite right tbf

 

[Fake]

People doing tech support in their free time, for a company that has a previous for campaigns of astroturfing, doesn't sound quite right tbf

I mean, dumb fanboys are OK sacrificing their hardware to beta test Windows.

Nothing against, is their money, but acting like is nothing wrong with Windows 11 is stupid. The OS is not even get out of Alpha stage.

 

[TBiddy]

Where's the racist remark?

You're failing to read the room here in more ways than one. But like I said, really not surprising, it goes with the territory.

"people of your ilk" - i can only assume you mean my skin colour.

But please, do go ahead with the personal attacks. I'm sure demigod is very impressed with you.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Wouldn't be all that surprised tbh. Not like they'll be fighting for market share. Would be pretty bad or for them though I would have thought

 

[Steve Holt]

"people of your ilk" - i can only assume you mean my skin colour.

But please, do go ahead with the personal attacks. I'm sure demigod is very impressed with you.

Holy moly.

No one can see you or knows who you are. Why you assume there has been a racist insult? That's kinda crazy.