Insane Metal
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Hopefully this regime falls and she doesn't get killed for doing this.
Edit: apparently she's in Canada not Iran.
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Monitoring the situation in Iran
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Hopefully this regime falls and she doesn't get killed for doing this.
Edit: apparently she's in Canada not Iran.
ChuckeRearmed
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I don't think the west needs IRGC help with being anti-western. EU is trying hard in that by itself.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
What?!? George Soros is not Jewish but Persian??
Honestly, I don't know much about Iran, but I did not expect to see snow!
ChuckeRearmed
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If the Iran collapses soon, we can prepare for a bigger war in the Middle East. Will be a showdown between Turkey and Israel.
DeepEnigma
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Forsete
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Can't wait for that one.
Russians are still living ok. They have food water etc.
Iranians on the other hand are suffering under their current rule.
Nah, Turkey is part of NATO and also will never really do anything but talk.
Forsete
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Russians are serfs. They know nothing else.
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JackHanma
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We in the West are debt slaves.
Forsete
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Maybe you, but not me.
Unknown Soldier
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ChuckeRearmed
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It is already happening though. Not only in Syria but the whole Greece + Israel alliance is about containing Turkey too. Morocco - the same situation to contain Turkish influence in Libya etc.
Iran will be out of the picture and Bibi has been talking about the threat of Turkey for months and years.
JackHanma
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Maybe you, but not me.
I am not either, but most are where I am from.
Meicyn
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PLEASE let it be so. The Iranian people deserve to be free of that theocracy.
Forsete
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LordCBH
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buttnuggett
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If he flees, we need to Yamamoto his ass.
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Lord Panda
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Feels like this is the last and best chance to topple this cancerous regime.
Also, the Queen remains as based as ever:
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Critical Hit
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The vast majority of those fighting in Ukraine are contract soldiers who are paid a lot of money. If they had been mobilized, there would have been an uproar.
Scary_Larry
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This is surreal to watch. This regime is on its heels and it's gong to fall. It's giving off the impression that they're in panic mode due to some defections.
How little trust does the government have in the army if they can't even trust there army to deal with separatists. IRGC are specifically a regime protection force. May they all meet their end soon.
How little trust does the government have in the army if they can't even trust there army to deal with separatists. IRGC are specifically a regime protection force. May they all meet their end soon.
All of the people suffer there including the people in their army. Faith can take you so far where you struggle to live normally.
I hope they win, because this government has proven to be extremely brutal in its repression of both protests and dissent from the very beginning.
While the images posted make me hopeful that the tide is turning, I am still aware of the kind of violence they are facing from a powerful state. Iran isn't Venezuela.
The people of Iran need more help from abroad than words of encouragement alone. That is all I or most people on this forum can give them, but they need far more.
While the images posted make me hopeful that the tide is turning, I am still aware of the kind of violence they are facing from a powerful state. Iran isn't Venezuela.
The people of Iran need more help from abroad than words of encouragement alone. That is all I or most people on this forum can give them, but they need far more.
LimanimaPT
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Go, go, go!!! This train can't be stopped!
balls of snow
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If nothing else this is iconic. Change be coming.
Perspective from a Persian-American woman:
Article: The Western liberal media is ignoring the Iranian uprising because explaining it would force an admission it is desperate to avoid: the Iranian people are rebelling against Islam itself, and that fact shatters the moral framework through which these institutions understand the world.
Ideally, to cover an uprising is not just to show crowds and slogans. It requires answering a basic question: why are people risking death? In Iran, the answer is simple and unavoidable. The people are rising up because the Islamic Republic of Iran has spent decades suffocating every aspect of life—speech, work, family, art, women, and economic survival—under a clerical system that treats liberty as a crime. There is no way to tell that story without confronting the nature of the regime.
Western media refuses to do so because it has fundamentally misunderstood Islam. Or worse, it has chosen not to understand it.
Islam, in Western progressive discourse, has been racialized. It is treated not as a belief system or a political ideology, but as a stand-in for race or ethnicity. Criticizing Islam is framed as an attack on "brown people," Arabs, or "the Middle East," as if Islam were a skin color rather than a doctrine.
This confusion is rooted in historical illiteracy. Western liberal media routinely collapses entire civilizations into a single stereotype: "all Middle Easterners are Arabs," "all Arabs are Muslim," and "all Muslims are a monolithic, oppressed identity group by white European colonizers." Iranians disappear entirely in this framework. Their language, history, and culture—Persian, not Arab; ancient, not colonial; distinct, not interchangeable—are erased.
By treating Islam as a racial identity rather than an ideology, Western media strips millions of people of their ability to reject it. Iranian protesters become unintelligible. Their rebellion cannot be processed without breaking the rule that Islam must not be criticized. So instead of listening to Iranians, the media speaks over them—or ignores them entirely.
There is another reason the Iranian uprising is so threatening to Western media is economic issues.
As you know, Iran is not only a religious dictatorship. It is a centrally controlled, state-dominated economy where markets are strangled, private enterprise is criminalized or co-opted, and economic survival depends on proximity to political power. Decades of price controls, subsidies, nationalization, and bureaucratic micromanagement have obliterated the middle class and entrenched corruption as the only functional system. The result is not equality or justice. It is poverty, stagnation, and dependence on government's dark void of empty promises.
Covering Iran honestly would require acknowledging that these policies are harmful. They have been tried. They have failed. Catastrophically.
This is deeply inconvenient for Western media institutions that routinely promote expansive state control, centralized economic planning, and technocratic governance as morally enlightened alternatives to liberal capitalism. Iran demonstrates where such systems lead when insulated from accountability and enforced by ideology. It shows that when the state controls livelihoods, non-conformity becomes existentially dangerous. That lesson cannot be acknowledged without undermining the moral authority of those who advocate similar ideas in softer language.
Western liberal media prefers not to hear this. Acknowledging it would require abandoning the lazy moral categories that dominate modern discourse: oppressor and oppressed, colonizer and colonized, white and non-white. Iranian protesters do not fit. They show that authoritarianism is not a Western invention imposed from outside, but something many societies are actively trying to escape.
That is what terrifies Western liberal media. And that is why the Iranian people are being ignored.
So the silence continues.
Senua
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Middle eastern women are some of the most beautiful in the world
efyu_lemonardo
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So Western media is self-censoring due to cognitive dissonance? It makes no sense to me. At least the tin-foil explanation of government pressure or business pressure had some logic behind it. What's the logic here?
winjer
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Left wing activists have been preaching Islam is a good thing for a long time.
And now we see Iran denouncing and refusing Islamism.
efyu_lemonardo
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But how did we get to a point where almost all news media is so narrative-driven that it ignores reality?
Do ratings plummet when a story doesn't fit people's biases?
Angry_Megalodon
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The alliance socialist-islam is a thing that nobody with half a brain can deny at this point.
Leftists see islam as a useful idiot to destroy actual liberal democracies. Islam see leftists as a useful idiot to conquer christian-based nations. Two parasites who benefit from each other. Both should be purged.
winjer
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Ratings have been falling for most news channels, as more and more people realize they lie so much.
But when it comes to ideology, it doesn't follow logic or reason. Quite the opposite.
efyu_lemonardo
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I don't disagree, but how did it happen that mainstream media became so biased towards one direction? It's still a free market, surely there is demand for the opposite narrative as well.
Unknown Soldier
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Fo the most part, legacy news media is only consumed by the older generations. The average age of the CNN and Fox News viewer is like 68 or something. There is nobody besides the Boomers who actually are consuming the legacy media and it is dying quickly as the old generations age out of being able to consume media at all
Because of this, the legacy news media has continuously doubled and tripled down on the only audiences they have left and become more and more extreme to retain their attention. There's nobody under the age of 60 watching anyways, so they don't need to pretend to appeal to anyone else anymore
Nobody knows what will happen to legacy media in the next 10-20 years but it's not going to be pretty once there aren't any Boomers left to consume it
The reasons are unrelated but Hollywood is dying too. The entire entertainment industry in LA is in an economic crisis of their own making, because all generations are turning away from the unpleasant propagandistic politically agenda driven content that Hollywood pivoted to exclusively making in the 2010's
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winjer
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Just a side note. But at a time when cinema is getting so much competition from videogames, social media, youtube, tick tock, etc, one would expect hollywood would be making the best movies ever, to stay relevant.
But instead, we are getting the worst decade of cinema history. So now there is a generation that has been "trained" to not care for cinema. And even the old folks have given up on modern movies and prefer to watch the good old movies.
ChuckeRearmed
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I am not sure why it does not make sense for you considering that the media has been propping up Hamas whole last year, believing every number provided by their authorities. Add to that the fact that there are many many lefists / liberals working in the media. We see it in USA and it is kinda worse in the Europe. The current Iranian regime represents everything that democrats and Europeans want to be - unfortunately for them the regime is collapsing in real-time and it becomes inconvenient to cover, as it would require explanations why it happened and suddenly Starmer (as an example) turns into ayatollah
Additionally it gives power to anti-state and anti-EU forces as Iranian are protesting against erasure of their true legacy - persian one - and that erasure was done by islamists. Kinda similar to Europe, don't you think?100% I mean without X, only some small forums would post anything about that. But together with Starlink it is a huge headache for governments as they have trouble suppressing people.
It is not a free market - just like with tampons in the men's lockers - you have peer pressure, amplified by loud women with suicidal empathy and having support of men who want to sleep with them.
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Iranian women especially. I studied with one in Canada and she was cooki af but beautiful so it didn't matter.
efyu_lemonardo
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My understanding was the sheer amount of horrifying reports coming from Gaza, the left's tendency to automatically take the side of those who are suffering more, and the usual dose of antisemitism.
This could be part of the case, it'd be interesting to check the numbers. I always attributed the decline in quality of mainstream news to the internet offering cheaper alternatives, leading to less income.
You've lost me here. The west wants to be an oppressive patriarchal dictatorship?
Suicidal empathy is exactly why I was expecting to see more coverage from the left.
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ChuckeRearmed
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Suicidal empathy applies to "killing the west." Iran has been one of the loudest anti-Western forces, while also being an Islamist state. Persians are not anti-Western, nor are they Islamic people. Liberals in general love Islam due to its "collectivism" and "divine state authority" - aka big government as king. And now we see the fall of the Islamic state. It does not look great for the people who supported Hamas, Islam, and anti-Western ideologies to see a prime example of what they want - a centralized Islamist government that hates the West - collapse.
Suicidal empathy does not mean being against killing others. It applies only to things that they hate - they are okay with people dying whom they don't like. It is one of the classic traps that all hypocrites fall into. Except now with the Internet, everybody can see it - especially with their inability to suppress TikTok or X.
Kind of. We saw it with the Biden administration and with what the UK and EU have done (not every country within the EU falls in line, though). Governments across Europe (the UK is the most egregious in that regard) are favoring Islamists and censorship; they are arresting people who post negative things about the government and Muslims online, etc. The reason for that is relatively simple, though - a lot of migrants are coming from impoverished countries, so even if the quality of life in the UK drops, it won't matter; but they are coming from dictatorial states where they are used to big governments oppressing people. It is kind of difficult for the government to support or cover up the case where a state like this falls. BBC has been posting about Hamas being "good guys," and now you are saying the bigger Hamas is falling apart due to people rebelling against the oppressive government. It's like imagining if Palestinians rebelled against Hamas. I wonder what the coverage would be. Probably "Terror groups propped up by Israel are at it again" or something.
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kruis
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If nothing else this is iconic. Change be coming.
It turn out that Iranian girl who lit a cigarette with a portrait of the great leader actually lives in Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada.
That just shows how careful we have to be with viral tweets about this revolt. You read that women all over Iran are now doing exactly the same thing in protest against their theocratic dictatorship and it turns out not to be happening at all.
Mr1999
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I grew up in SoCal with a lot of Iranian friends christian, atheist, muslim and they're some of the most red white and blue people you'll ever see. They don't want to live in a straightjacket, they want normal lives the same as everyone else. It must be hard being held back by religious extremists, it has to be brutal because even though my mother country is no USA, its certainly not controlled by religious extremists, and because of that it doesn't reflect who I actually am on the world stage, and I think some of that is what Iranians don't like, its not who they are and it must suck for them.
The same thing applies to other countries stuck with similar leadership. If people there finally get room to succeed, it won't stop with Iran, Lebanon feels it, Israel feels it, the whole region feels it. It's all connected. One major domino falls and real growth starts to spread. You look at Iran and it's obvious how much potential is being suppressed. Iranians are very smart people, they should be on the level of like other big countries, Italy, Japan, etc.
I just hope enough people don't get silenced before they have a real chance, and that if they do succeed, it doesn't snap back to the old ways like it so often does. Honestly it feels like Iran is ready, as they are the ones wanting the change and showing REAL skin in the game, and at that point they should receive help to get the job done.
The same thing applies to other countries stuck with similar leadership. If people there finally get room to succeed, it won't stop with Iran, Lebanon feels it, Israel feels it, the whole region feels it. It's all connected. One major domino falls and real growth starts to spread. You look at Iran and it's obvious how much potential is being suppressed. Iranians are very smart people, they should be on the level of like other big countries, Italy, Japan, etc.
I just hope enough people don't get silenced before they have a real chance, and that if they do succeed, it doesn't snap back to the old ways like it so often does. Honestly it feels like Iran is ready, as they are the ones wanting the change and showing REAL skin in the game, and at that point they should receive help to get the job done.
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