London 2012 Summer Olympics |OT3|
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travisbickle
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DQ twice in the cycling, DQ in the 100m relay, downgraded from silver to bronze in mens gymnastics. Yes Judging favouritism I see.
Hey maybe using the rules to your advantage isn't cheating, but it's not sportsmanlike.
I'm not saying there's a pro British judging conspiracy.
Man, Trott is such a cutie. Ennis too, such a positive smile.
Depends if your including your own athletes performance when you talk about "best ever". If it involves the quality of the city and venues, traffic, security, production concerns and all the difficulties that go with hosting such a big event, then I agree that Sydney was outstanding. And as much as people want to hate on China, they also hosted a quality olympics with impressive facilities.
I'm glad someone mentioned Lillihammer. Norway did a fantastic job for a winter olympics.
I'm glad someone mentioned Lillihammer. Norway did a fantastic job for a winter olympics.
LanceVance
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-If there's a problem in rowing and it happens in the first 100metres you are allowed to stop the race and have it restarted to fix the problem. Also if you actually watched it his seat broke, so he couldn't go forwards and backwards.
-There is no rule in cycling to say you can't crash on purpose at the start if you have a bad start. Probably because it would be impossible to prove if a rider deliberately crashed or not.
So yes you definitely have sour grapes.
The fucking AUSTRALIANS not only praised the games they seem to agree we outdid Sydney! Harmless banter it may be but I have lived there, I have family there, I know how much it takes for them to concede we are good at anything, if they can rise above the salty tears then the French shoud find it in their hearts to do the same.
I realise that, but I still find it a joke.
There's no rule that forbid you to throw a game either, yet some badminton players got excluded from the Games for it, rightly so.
travisbickle
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What?
So you think the rower had a screwdriver in the boat just to unscrew the seat in the case of a slow start? and Daley had a friend in the crowd with a camera who would use a flash mid-air when he could see Daley was having a below-par dive?
Also I'd like to see that article on French newspapers criticizing the Olympics so much.
Pretty sure it's not all praise in other newspapers in the world and not all criticism in French newspapers either.
Reminds me of the Euro 2012 BBC Panorama about racism in Poland.
Pretty sure it's not all praise in other newspapers in the world and not all criticism in French newspapers either.
Reminds me of the Euro 2012 BBC Panorama about racism in Poland.
Maybe Daley just did a bad dive and wanted another try?Nothing wrong with that, as long as other participants can have the same thing.
Didnt they get done for the violating the players code of conduct which does rule against not trying to win a match? Specially a match rather than tournament.
Edit: I think it's ""not using ones best efforts to win a match"
(note that I personally think it was nonsense for them to be thrown out but a rule DID exist for it to be done under)
travisbickle
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Flash photography is banned from the diving event. There was a flash.
Whenever I think of the London Olympics, this is the tune in the back of my head. Love it!!
The tune of the bells after 4.48 is usually rang like that in churches after weddings
The French dissing the UK economy?
ANY country knocking anyone else economy right now is guilty of some serious self delusion, the whole world is stagnant right now.
The UK has made things worse for itself with some poor fiscal policy, but yeah, France is making itself look ridiculous by being so petty.
It's because it was obvious they were not playing to win, you could say the same for a cyclist that crashes on purpose, he was not trying to win, he was trying to crash.
Ultimately it helped him for the tournament, but at the time he wasn't giving his best.
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Indeed it has (well the Torys have) but every country has issues, even the ones with less at home still rely on trade (Germany for example), it's pathetic.
ComputerMKII
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A storm in a teacup.
There was a lot of flash photography for that dive, like strobe lighting.
GarthVaderUK
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The audience are told beforehand that flash photography isn't permitted. It's unfair on a diver if a bunch of people ignore that precisely at the moment he or she is diving, and surely it is fair to allow them to dive again in that situation.
Don't the officials come from all over the world anyway?
It wasn't an article, it was part of the BBC News Lunchtime overview. I've given you the timestamp, go get that proxy thing and watch it for yourself if you don't believe me.
And it wasn't ALL praise in other newspapers - I think a US newspaper took a couple jabs at the Spice Girls and other musical choices which is to be expected because the closing ceremony was supposed to be an unashamed pop/rock party. But the difference? They were all fair.
The Paris correspondent even said he went out of his way to 'dig deep' for even the slightest praise and found a tiny article on page 9 of some newspaper - but even that was filled with snark.
I'll go "dig deep" as well.
toastyToast
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After that re-run of the closing ceremony, it's officially over for me 
What do I do now?
Great work Britons, really wish I was still there. The atmosphere looked so festive. Whole city seemed like it was on a high
What do I do now?
Great work Britons, really wish I was still there. The atmosphere looked so festive. Whole city seemed like it was on a high
Napoleonthechimp
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Mostly
Indeed it has (well the Torys have) but every country has issues, even the ones with less at home still rely on trade (Germany for example), it's pathetic.
Deniz Gokce, Aksam, Turkey: "The Olympic Park was established foolishly. Some of the facilities were old and bad... Even a channel like the BBC - which is meant to be international - was not very much interested in things other than the races won by the Brits. I think Sydney and Beijing were more successful in their organisation of the Olympics,"
lol Fuck off.
Wasn't everything in the Park new? I didn't think they were building around any existing facilities.
No it's not. Did he mean 'Impartial', I wonder?
Edit: Heh. The heavens just opened. I guess we can only muster pleasant weather for so long!
There were at least 5 flashes during that dive. I dunno how many the other competitors had to deal with though, as they didn't replay their dives 10 times.
My point was that there WAS a specific rule they used for the badminton players.
The slow-mo clip that I saw was full of flashes, and people are going to be taking pictures of that guy since it's his home crowd.
Wait, an italian newspaper referring to 'Brenda'? That's something that I wouldn't have expected making it to other shores.
It is suppose to be impartial politically and report the news without an agenda. Nothing to do with supporting sides in sport. It's like complaining the BBC supports England at the World Cup and Euros.
Can't believe I'm giving you my time to even respond to this drivel, but if you took the time to understand the rules, you'd know that any mechanical faults that occur to a boat in the first 100m can allow for a restart, the failure occurred around 80m in.
The fuck? Arctic Monkeys were flawless. George Michael sounded fantastic too.. dude still has it. I was very impressed by all of the 70s/80s musicians that performed (Madness, PSB, etc.)
I know that, it's just that I find it suspicious that's all.I give the athletes the benefit of the doubt nevertheless.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/aug/13/london-2012-games-verdict-around-world
Uk newspaper:
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BOO THOSE FRENCH ASSHOLES
Le Monde is the biggest French newspaper btw
Yep, their British audience wants to follow the British athletes.
questionmark
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Ugh, please don't remind me. I'm gonna go outside and burn an Italian flag. But yeah, that was a good year to be Norwegian. I hope we get the 2022 Olympics.
I'll have you know, we're doing pretty well up here, thanks.
dear humanity, stop embarrassing me.
Haha, I searched for "Annie Lennox" "Lady Gaga" on Twitter after her performance last night and there were some doozies.
Just reposting this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/aug/13/london-2012-games-verdict-around-world
Uk newspaper:
I don't know which newspapers that BBC news guy was reading but he wasn't digging very hard.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/aug/13/london-2012-games-verdict-around-world
Uk newspaper:
I don't know which newspapers that BBC news guy was reading but he wasn't digging very hard.
ConfusingJazz
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Ah, nothing makes me feel nostalgic like Brits and the French taking jabs at each other. I guess we are getting over the Olympics and back into the swing of things.
Psychotext
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Maybe Daley actually arranged to have people in the crowd with flash guns just incase he fucked up a dive!
Ridiculous. Daley isn't the brightest bulb in the box and he said the second he got out of the pool that there had been flashes (there had been). So are we to take it that between the end of his dive and the side of the pool he worked out that he should say there were flashes and get another dive? IMPRESSIVE.
Good for you, just hope you don't rely too much on trade, imports / exports or a stable EU then...wishing or gloating about economic ills of countries is stupid, they / we are all potential trading partners and it smacks of deflectionist media ("hey, don't complain, think your self lucky your not them!").
The_Hitcher89
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So, there we have it. 7+ years of planning, billions of pounds we don't have, and millions of people being delayed in one of the busiest cities on Earth. And what do we have to show for it? A stadium with 2 clubs fighting over it, and no concrete future. An aquatic centre with little chance of paying for itself. Olympic lanes which need to be wiped off the face of the streets. A country and government which can't organise its security, despite being a prime target for a terrorist attack. Is that it? What a waste. The nay-sayers were right all along. Oh, misery, oh misery, woe is me. The country is going to pot, things weren't like this in the old days, its political correctness gone mad.
But no. That's not what we're left with at all. We've been left with millions of citizens who want to take up a sport, and have avenues in which to do it due to countless others like them. We have venues whose post-game futures have been planned since day 1. We have the world giving us a pat on the back for an almost faultless games (relatively speaking.) We have a sense on national pride, instilled from the opening ceremony which gloriously showed us what this little island (and the Northern part of a nearby one) has contributed to the world in the last 300 or so years. And we have a timely reminder of just what it is that makes the BBC the greatest broadcasting company in th world. Most of all, we're left with memories that will live with us until our dying breaths. I for one will never, ever forget Mo Farah's grimace of pain, gritted teeth and wide eyes as he strained and fought his way over the finish line for an historic second gold. I'll always remember Jessica Ennis' tears as 80,000 people sang a pefect rendition of our national anthem. And the lesser know athletes will live with me, even if their names won't. Like the guy in the shooting, sinking to his knees as he realised that he'd reached the apex of his sport. Countless moments of joy.
We've had pain and self-reflection as well though. Whether it was Victoria Pendleton swerving out of her lane to fend off an elbow to the ribs and being swiftly put on the backfoot because of it, or our sprinting team being disqualified from the 4x100m final because of a momentary lapse in concentration. A fencer being deprived of the greatest moment of her life because of a technical hitch, or a hurdler being forced to withdraw for the second time in two Olympics because of a chronic injury. Moments that fly in the face of anybody who'll ever tell you that athletes don't care, or sport doesn't matter.
We all came into the games with worry, and a lot of us came into it with negativity, and too many of us went into it with a will for us to fail. And yes, it wasn't perfect. The aforementioned technical hitch in the fencing, as well as huge officiating mistakes in the hammer and the boxing. Confusion over the people eligible for use of the Olympic lanes. Delays in the public transporation system, and corporate greed lessening the positive impact the games could have. The army being forced to expend resources to cover for a security firm that proved itself incapable of fulfilling its promises. All of these things, and they never came close to stopping the Games' momentum, and they never dampened anybody's enthusiasm. In fact, I'd sacrifice all of that 10 times over though in return for what the Olympics have given us. I'm no fan of Sebastian Coe, Boris Johnson, and David Cameron but there's no denying that they and their fellow organisers have played a blinder throughout. And that's not to mention the sterling jobs done by the Olympic volunteers, who helped the last fortnight fly by without recieving even a penny in return.
As the torch was extinguished, and the curtains closed, the Olympics moved on to Rio. Its a huge shame its over, its mildly annoying that it only lasts a fortnight, and its a shame that the closing ceremony couldn't live up to the opening, and the Games as a whole. Still, its been a resounding success in very nearly every way, and I'm as pleased now as I was when we found out we had it. We were given an almost insurmountable task in this economic climate and time of unease, pessimism and budgetary obsession. And boy, did we pull it off
But no. That's not what we're left with at all. We've been left with millions of citizens who want to take up a sport, and have avenues in which to do it due to countless others like them. We have venues whose post-game futures have been planned since day 1. We have the world giving us a pat on the back for an almost faultless games (relatively speaking.) We have a sense on national pride, instilled from the opening ceremony which gloriously showed us what this little island (and the Northern part of a nearby one) has contributed to the world in the last 300 or so years. And we have a timely reminder of just what it is that makes the BBC the greatest broadcasting company in th world. Most of all, we're left with memories that will live with us until our dying breaths. I for one will never, ever forget Mo Farah's grimace of pain, gritted teeth and wide eyes as he strained and fought his way over the finish line for an historic second gold. I'll always remember Jessica Ennis' tears as 80,000 people sang a pefect rendition of our national anthem. And the lesser know athletes will live with me, even if their names won't. Like the guy in the shooting, sinking to his knees as he realised that he'd reached the apex of his sport. Countless moments of joy.
We've had pain and self-reflection as well though. Whether it was Victoria Pendleton swerving out of her lane to fend off an elbow to the ribs and being swiftly put on the backfoot because of it, or our sprinting team being disqualified from the 4x100m final because of a momentary lapse in concentration. A fencer being deprived of the greatest moment of her life because of a technical hitch, or a hurdler being forced to withdraw for the second time in two Olympics because of a chronic injury. Moments that fly in the face of anybody who'll ever tell you that athletes don't care, or sport doesn't matter.
We all came into the games with worry, and a lot of us came into it with negativity, and too many of us went into it with a will for us to fail. And yes, it wasn't perfect. The aforementioned technical hitch in the fencing, as well as huge officiating mistakes in the hammer and the boxing. Confusion over the people eligible for use of the Olympic lanes. Delays in the public transporation system, and corporate greed lessening the positive impact the games could have. The army being forced to expend resources to cover for a security firm that proved itself incapable of fulfilling its promises. All of these things, and they never came close to stopping the Games' momentum, and they never dampened anybody's enthusiasm. In fact, I'd sacrifice all of that 10 times over though in return for what the Olympics have given us. I'm no fan of Sebastian Coe, Boris Johnson, and David Cameron but there's no denying that they and their fellow organisers have played a blinder throughout. And that's not to mention the sterling jobs done by the Olympic volunteers, who helped the last fortnight fly by without recieving even a penny in return.
As the torch was extinguished, and the curtains closed, the Olympics moved on to Rio. Its a huge shame its over, its mildly annoying that it only lasts a fortnight, and its a shame that the closing ceremony couldn't live up to the opening, and the Games as a whole. Still, its been a resounding success in very nearly every way, and I'm as pleased now as I was when we found out we had it. We were given an almost insurmountable task in this economic climate and time of unease, pessimism and budgetary obsession. And boy, did we pull it off
Alx
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Honestly, there's been bickering about some ref decisions, but the general opinion in France is very positive towards these Olympics. Everybody had a good time, the organization was great, almost everything was available live on TV websites, even the medal count is more than decent for French athletes.
About the Best Olympics ever , is hard to compare between them as within 4, 8 years or more so much things changes: perception, organization, technology.
Also in case of London opinions from english speaking countries / anglo-american countries are normally biased. This is normal between culturally close countries. This praise for London is for sure more moderated from e.g. China as well Beijing praise is from western countries. Unless it can be measured it is all about perceptions (they can be right, though)
I don't know if Beijing or Athens were better or worse than Sydney or London, but because of the different following they had they can appear distant or not so spectacular.
With this I am not diminishing London 2012. It was a great ans well done event! Just saying perception/expectations can give us a biased view of things.
Also in case of London opinions from english speaking countries / anglo-american countries are normally biased. This is normal between culturally close countries. This praise for London is for sure more moderated from e.g. China as well Beijing praise is from western countries. Unless it can be measured it is all about perceptions (they can be right, though)
I don't know if Beijing or Athens were better or worse than Sydney or London, but because of the different following they had they can appear distant or not so spectacular.
With this I am not diminishing London 2012. It was a great ans well done event! Just saying perception/expectations can give us a biased view of things.
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