clutch.as.it.gets.
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I saw that too. He said PS 4 is the perfect fit for them and UE 4 and it seemed he dissed MS with how he said it (someone answered our love letter (demo)).
PS4 has 8 GB OF GDDR5 RAM
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I saw that too. He said PS 4 is the perfect fit for them and UE 4 and it seemed he dissed MS with how he said it (someone answered our love letter (demo)).
Isn't this the 3rd time you asked this?
Can Crusher
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Oh come on, since when has that been a thing?
We saw what we saw, and it looked better than anything else. I think Uncharted 3 looks much better than GTA, it doesn't matter if it has big levels or not.
My eyes were literally doubting at times what they were seeing, that didn't happen with the Killzone video, even though it looks really great.
Betrayer of hope
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8Gb of ram even if high speed is worthless if you don't have the processor and GPU to take advantage of it.
From what i can see the current ps3 cpu is much faster than the ps4 cpu. It absolutely smokes it in number crunching terms
And since the memory has increased by 16 times you would expect 16 times the bandwidth of the ps3. However the ps4 bandwidth is 176GBs.
Not that impressive
From what i can see the current ps3 cpu is much faster than the ps4 cpu. It absolutely smokes it in number crunching terms
And since the memory has increased by 16 times you would expect 16 times the bandwidth of the ps3. However the ps4 bandwidth is 176GBs.
Not that impressive
Subsidized pricing incoming. $199 with a 3 year PS+ subscription.
1st Course
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That not how CPUs work, some of the bulldozer CPUs feature 16 cores inside them and yet they were still outperformed by some dual core Sandy bridge CPUs.
IrishNinja
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you & no one else...let's not repeat last gen
They flatly said it's GDDR5 directly in the press conference. No room for doubt.
Whiteshirt
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its in actual sony published documents. its subject to change but currently that's what they're aiming for.
Some special sauce may help the crow go down easier...
I must say, I'm impressed at how far Sony went. Not only does the so-called GAF experts/MS fans have crow to eat, but even certain cocky middleware devs (cough *Crytek* cough) that, just a few days ago, thought their game was soo visually untouchable.
That said, I think people should wait to see what Microsoft have to offer before considering them "beaten." I personally want to see real gameplay of some of the more impressive stuff like Capcom's Deep Down. I don't want another Killzone 2-esque burn, if you know what I mean. (and no, I'm not questioning the Killzone: Shadow Fall in partiuclar)
I must say, I'm impressed at how far Sony went. Not only does the so-called GAF experts/MS fans have crow to eat, but even certain cocky middleware devs (cough *Crytek* cough) that, just a few days ago, thought their game was soo visually untouchable.
That said, I think people should wait to see what Microsoft have to offer before considering them "beaten." I personally want to see real gameplay of some of the more impressive stuff like Capcom's Deep Down. I don't want another Killzone 2-esque burn, if you know what I mean. (and no, I'm not questioning the Killzone: Shadow Fall in partiuclar)
Portugeezer
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Same is true for the Xbox 360, which was also similar to PC, so yeah why not?
Looked fantastic.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
Ummm....are you saying that this has actually happened?
dummydecoy
Member
So they announce 8GB now, but then the initial PS3 reveal years ago had double somethings of what we got like 2 HDMIs, 2 Lan ports etc. Maybe at launch it's back to 4GB. lol
My god, I was impressed by 4gb of gddr5 then sony blows my mind by doubling it.
Thats the most foolish comparison I've heard in quite some time, good job.
Thats the most foolish comparison I've heard in quite some time, good job.
Good point. Didn't think of that. Maybe it's not that much of a pipedream afterall?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
800 dollar profit? Man, there is nothing I would like to see more than Nvidia make their own console. Price it at break even and throw a Titan in there.
2GB incoming!TheKaeptain
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I fucking called it and you guys thought I was crazy!!!!!!
Once again, pertaining to price, if Sony has planned to swap out GDDR5 for DDR3/4 with wider bus (1024 bit) and stacking down the line then the costs will reeled in significantly in the first few years post launch.
Imagine how everyone else feel. We all are psychologically prepared for 4GB (and less than that around 3.5GB for game development). And then comes this curve ball.
Imagine how everyone else feel. We all are psychologically prepared for 4GB (and less than that around 3.5GB for game development). And then comes this curve ball.
This is the attitude Nintendo should have taken with the WiiU.
Sony would have been ok with 4gb of DDR5 Ram, but they doubled it for insurance. Had Nintendo taken the same approach, and tried to make the WiiU undoubtedly the technological superior to the PS3, they might have had a better chance of surviving.
Sony would have been ok with 4gb of DDR5 Ram, but they doubled it for insurance. Had Nintendo taken the same approach, and tried to make the WiiU undoubtedly the technological superior to the PS3, they might have had a better chance of surviving.
You know what, Square Enix should first prove they can ship finished products (Final Fantasy Versus XIII anyone?) before they EVEN THINK about getting to work on games that utilize the Luminous Engine.
Square Enix is done, I'm telling you.
And Capcom, well, they did some great stuff with their MT Framework Engine, so they may be able to get some good games out. I still think PS4 development will be a risky move for them.
It's still pretty unbelievable.
Pachterballs
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OMFFFFFFFFFFFFFFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.
day 1.
day 1.
TheOohChild
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so does this news just mean that ps4 is going to age well?
LumpOfCole
Member
This really, really extends the longevity of the device. Bravo to Sony for pulling the trigger on 8GB on RAM, and thank the capitalist gods for letting RAM be cheap enough right now for this to happen.
Doesn't even come close.
oneils
Member
Potentially. It will at least extend the lifespan of the system.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Consoles present different benefits and detriments but I suspect there are some on board parts which aid in some things which may seem to be lacking.
NOT EVEN CLOSE
That is true. Still we saw Agni demo, Killzone demo, Infameous demo (confirmed in engine) and dat Capcom demo running.
Those kind of demos would require 680 and best CPUs. Looks like they really nailed literally down overhead with their architecture. Totally unified one pool of fast ram in which you can load almost all data or even whole game.
Those 2TF looks reaaaaly strong.
No one expected to see Killzone live demo with that much quality behind it even before alpha.
Those 3TF+ cards on PC just weeps from not being used to full extend imo.
Capcom demo was glorious imo.
Sounds just like when it was said PS4 wont have this type of ram with this much. Microsoft is pursuing different venues friend.
This is quite an impressive achievement.
1st Course
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Yeah 8 GB GDDR5 was the real game changer of this conference, considering that games like GOW3 run on only 256mb of VRAM I can only imagine what will developers do with 20x+ the amount of VRAM.
The RAM is crazy, and I shudder to think how much this bad boy will cost. Getting one, day one, obviously.
It will be interesting to eventually hear when this RAM size was finalised by Sony. All the recent rumours were spot on about everything else, yet were so off the mark for memory. Folks claiming insider knowledge and stating the PS4 would have 4GB probably did so in good faith, based on old info.
How old that info was is key. I can't see that end of 2013 would be an achievable target if Sony changed specs so significantly in the past few weeks. These specs must have been final in the latter part of 2012. Else manufacturing the console would see big delays and yield issues, meaning that a 2013 launch was unfeasible.
It will be interesting to eventually hear when this RAM size was finalised by Sony. All the recent rumours were spot on about everything else, yet were so off the mark for memory. Folks claiming insider knowledge and stating the PS4 would have 4GB probably did so in good faith, based on old info.
How old that info was is key. I can't see that end of 2013 would be an achievable target if Sony changed specs so significantly in the past few weeks. These specs must have been final in the latter part of 2012. Else manufacturing the console would see big delays and yield issues, meaning that a 2013 launch was unfeasible.
Just because it's true, doesn't mean you're not insane.
gundamkyoukai
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You were right and it's awesome .
Still surprise that we did not see the consoles since you said investor did .
But yeah people should eat crow because you were right .
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
so with all this does anyone think 1080p 60fps standard is back on the table?
did you see my previous posts?
I am not in a mood to argue or bring up old statements. see my previous posts
Thank You
So half the cores that are not on a unified memory pool with 18 compute units.
You're going to need a beast of a PC to brute force what an optimized engine will do on this console.
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Never will be unfortunately. The compromise you get at 30 is too great.
PistolGrip
sex vacation in Guam
Im scared GAF. The price .... the price will kill us.
Although it was rumored that PS3 was over $800 to manufacture at launch.
Although it was rumored that PS3 was over $800 to manufacture at launch.
10 years of PS4!
Portugeezer
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Sooo... open world games, best on PS4???
Actually in that frantic motion (with so much smoke n mirrors) it looks very good and somewhat close. We are comparing a 5th year game in the hands of graphical gurus of GG with a pre-alpha game which may have been built around older specs (the jump to 8GB or more importantly over 4GB for game development) pretty recently if EDGE had it right.
As blow away as I am, it will be amazing to see what they pull off with titles far away from launch.