If those series can be called blockbuster franchises, then so can Halo, Gears of War*, Fable and Forza be called that as well.
*I know that Gears isn't owned by MS, but they have an exclusive publishing agreement with Epic.
Microsoft Conference: Will they Bring It Like Sony Did?
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*I know that Gears isn't owned by MS, but they have an exclusive publishing agreement with Epic.
Worst decision ever
It really was pretty uneventful. I mean the specs are nice but the conference was a snoozer. All MS would have to do is show interesting games totally more than 1.
More like his choice not to make God of War 14 or Twisted Metal 8. Hopefully E3 will show us that Sony isnt out of ideas just yet.
ToyMachine228
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A) I wasn't impressed by Sony at all. And I don't think that casual gamers really were either. And by that I mean the average joe who bought a 360 this gen and just plays CoD, Madden and Halo on Live. Was the tech impressive? Yes it was. But its the games and services that will ultimately decide Sony's fate. I didn't see any system sellers at their conference. Remember, its Sony that has to win over 360 owners and attract a new audience.
B) Sony set the table. Microsoft knows what they have to do to upstage Sony now. So they are going to do just that. Sony would do the same thing had Microsoft gone first.
B) Sony set the table. Microsoft knows what they have to do to upstage Sony now. So they are going to do just that. Sony would do the same thing had Microsoft gone first.
1. Halo sells around the same if not more than Gran Turismo, Fable Sells around 4-5 Million each time, same with forza. MS has more than just Halo as a blockbuster.
2. Microsoft has more studios than Sony.
If only they would jump ship to MS where they're given infinite financial support, time, and freedom to make whatever they desire...
And the PS3 literally has no games
Remember when this was leveled at the PS3 back in the day? Those were fun times.
BlastProcessing
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I agree with you on the fact that Sony tried to push the Move to high heaven, but they did not say anything about the camera being bundled. They showed a picture of it and moved on. The press release after mentions a headset bundled with every console, but not the camera. I am sure they want to, but are not committing for either cost or competitive reasons. They probably should though for the same reasons Microsoft is probably going to bundle the Kinect 2.0.
Did this really just get said in a MS thread of all places? :\
BruceLeeRoy
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What revisionist stuff is this? Jaffe left after GOW1 cause of the toll it was taking on his family life. He spent 6 months of pre-production on a PSP game that he says he walked away from and took a break as lead designer and then came back with Calling All Cars a game born out of his own desire.
I think both Sony and Microsoft have done a good job with smaller titles like Journey or Mark of the Ninja, but what excites me to buy a shiny new console are new AAA (I hate that term) experiences I can't get elsewhere. Not the console exclusive version of Minecraft.
Overrated developer, not worth MS' money. Cliffy B on the other hand deserves his own studio.
BruceLeeRoy
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I completely agree with you on that. Doesn't change that fact that your completely wrong about your reference to Jaffe.
I actually agree with you 100% there. But sticking to that line of thinking what has MS been criticized for in the last few years? For only releasing the same 3 AAA IPs and then nothing else for core gamers. It just seemed silly to see a comment saying "god of war 14" and "maybe they'll have some new ideas at E3" when they have 2 new IPs coming this year and have had new ips in the last few years.
I, for one, would love to see more giant enemy scarabs in the Halo series.
And more Fable games based on ancient British history.
The specifics of his reasons may be so, but it doesnt change the fact he walked away from God of War at its height to make new experiences. Where's my Uncharted or even Resistance for this generation?
I'm not letting Microsoft off the hook yet either, but we havent seen what they've got up their sleeves. Sony decided to go first and they didnt have much to show at all.
When I bought my 360 I knew I was gonna get Gears of War, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and they all looked awesome.
BruceLeeRoy
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They need to kill Fable off and move on from that garbage. Now more Scarabs....mmmhmm
Yeah I hope we get some reveals of promising new IP for sure
The Journey certainly didn't.
I'm going to assume sarcasm. Or you gave yourself away too easily.
Yup totally. MS' money needs to go to more studios like RARE and Lionhead who have provided them amazing first party titles this generation.
I think that Microsoft will have an easier time because outside of the spec situation whether or not it is more powerful, they have the opportunity to show a variety games. Doesn't matter the type; casual or hardcore.... these are really just marketing terms to pigeonhole a product. They do that and I think they are fine.
Lastly if they don't focus on a shooter that would be a welcome change. Killzone 4 looks great and I have Killzone 3 to play but there was no reason for that to be the main demo of the event.
Lastly if they don't focus on a shooter that would be a welcome change. Killzone 4 looks great and I have Killzone 3 to play but there was no reason for that to be the main demo of the event.
Oh ok so you just meant the upcoming generation, I misunderstood you and I agree I'd like to see more new IPs. E3 should definitely be where the floodgates open for both of them since both will have unveiled already. It's part of the reason why I was more impressed with Knack (the amazing IQ and Mark Cerny being the rest) and Watch Dogs over most of the other stuff at the Sony event. Games that looked new and may be trying somewhat new things.
BruceLeeRoy
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Haha. I loved Kameo though
Alaskanbullworm
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They will bring it....oh yes, they will bring it
Arrogant Menace
Banned
if MS is smart they will offer cliffy b whatever and give him his own studio
I don't think Cliffy B wants that.
I don't think he wants any strings attached, including platform exclusivity. Though it would be smart for MS to do.
That would be very cool indeed. Should Fund a David Jaffe game too.
I'd buy "Gears of War Trilogy" for the next box with supped up graphics at 1080p.
ambientmystic
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It that means I get to see a brand new sequel/revival of Jazz the Jackrabbit again after 15 long years I'm all for it lol.
Only in my dreams.
They both have made games this generation that have scored higher than 77 meta and had over 1 million in sales.
IcyRhythms
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I'm sure they'll bring it...ya know tons of ads and maybe shock the industry with a FF7 remake exclusive to Nextbox :O
Ok, now that we've lived dream, we'll just say more ads and more talking about XBL improvements.
Ok, now that we've lived dream, we'll just say more ads and more talking about XBL improvements.
Boss Man
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Er, when you imply things happened for a particular reason it kinda does matter.
I'm really excited about Knack, and even if most don't see it now I think it's going to be big. Game looks really fun and unique and Cerny has a tremendous resume. It's very distinctly using new capabilities in its mechanics, that's what I want from launch games. Get those creative juices flowing and let's see how we can change certain genres and accumulate the more interesting mechanics.
Other than that, yeah I do want another new experience or two out of Sony for the launch window. I happen to like Killzone and inFamous a lot but I want new experiences to open a new generation, then the established franchises can come in and take cues from them so they feel fresh.
I think we'll see new stuff at E3 though. Something like Puppeteer on PS4 hardware could be phenomenal, but we need something we haven't 'felt' yet.
Microsoft really needs to let Rare do whatever the hell they want. There's probably so much potential for great games there, but we aren't really getting a chance to see it. Honestly, I think Rare on a real Fable title could end up being brilliant.
MS would also do well to get another Crackdown going. I think exclusives work best when they're experiences you couldn't otherwise get. I get the feeling MS may understand this, so their lack of effort hurts them less. Killzone is good but so is COD and BF. Sony needs more stuff like inFamous and the original Resistance (Halo style). God of War qualifies here too really. Any game that's worth attempting to emulate (GT -> Forza) means it's what an exclusive should be. MS just needs to do more period though. They need more big-budget games, not just bite-sized things on XBLA.
dragonbane
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FYI Move is generating a profit for Sony. It's selling nowhere near as good as Kinect, but they made their money back easily. It wasn't a failure. Software sales are abysmal for both Kinect and Move. The only thing that sold well on Kinect is Dance Central.
BruceLeeRoy
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Didn't Kinect Sports, Adventures, and Star Wars sell a lot?
OldJadedGamer
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Yes. More than Twisted Metal I'm guessing. Jafee said they broke even but didn't turn a profit on TM
Syphon Filter
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forza isn't a blockbuster,far from it lol.
BruceLeeRoy
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Yeah poor Jaffe I love TM but for some reason I wasn't compelled to pick the new one up.
Just Dance, Dance Central series, Kinect Sports 1 & 2, Kinectimals, Kinect Star Wars, Disneyland Aventures all sold over 1 million. Hell I'd bet Kinect Sports sold more than all move games combined.
Selling 4 - 5 million on each version is not a blockbuster? So that would mean God of War is not a blockbuster either, same for Uncharted.
It just came out and it was never on an E3 stage. Karaoke is 100% different from a Kinect Karaoke game and it deserved to be on that stage just like Ubisoft which people say won E3, has rappers and dancers to promote Just Dance.
Again, MS should never cater to average haters regardless. If they keep on target they will be more than fine when the Xbox is on sale.
Forza Motorsports actually sell pretty well, unfortunately Horizon-- which is an awesome game-- seems to be bombing.
Arrogant Menace
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Kinect games actually sell pretty decent considering the low install base and lack of marketing for them.
Syphon Filter
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i believe they don't sell that well depending what is well to you. they are 1 to 2 million sellers at best and the reason you see 4 million for some is due to heavy bundles. Fable is bigger and some seem to forget that.
Syphon Filter
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like i said it sold that much due to heavy bundles. forza 3 and 4 sold poor in the us their first month and didn't have much legs.
First off you need to check your eyesight. Please find the 'broing' in your in your own quotes. So the old cry wolf routine doesnt work. I said Cool Story. Period
Again, an optional motion control device that every single console has that NEVER stalled one hardcore franchise you say you were a fan of. The new goalposts of load times etc. arent why you originally said you gave up your console and games. But again, I hope MS says Kinect 2.0 in the first line, because they are still going to promote the device as they absolutely should. MA delived the biggest core games as well as casual for the Kinect, because everybody in the family doesnt sit around playing Call of Duty and Elder Scrolls dirung the holidays.