Fitness |OT5| Intermittent Farting, Wrist Curls and Hammer Strength Machine Spotters
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I appreciate the reassurance and sentiment gaf, it's how I feel too. I just roll my eyes and tell him no. But I have to hear it everyday and he echoes it to my parents who in turn tell me everyday. If I don't stop him with real science he's just going to keep throwing bro-science at me lol
How much do you weigh?
Currently weight ~200lbs (@ 5'11'' height if that matters)
Ignore all of them. If you throw real science at them, they'll likely just dismiss that.
Or you could just ask them why protein would be bad for you. Does protein contain viruses (assuming it's been cooked)? Maybe they should stop drinking milk or eating any form of meat.
Tell him you need 180-200 grams of protein daily and unless he wants to start being your personal protein chef, you're going to need a shake or two to get to that number everyday.
FallingEdge
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I'm curious as to form. When bringing the bar down, where do you let it hit the chest at? Lower pecs? Upper?
That's really helpful. Thanks!
FallingEdge
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Add weight.
And repost from the last thread but these comics are just too good.
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Time for a weight belt?
FallingEdge
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If the weight is light enough, I would just use a DB. But when it gets heavier, I use a dip belt that the gym has.
The Horror the horror
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Is going heavy on legs (5x5) three times a week overkill?
OreoKraickerz
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What are you guys' thoughts on weight belts? When is a good time to start using one? I ask because I was deadlifting 2 weeks ago when my back just kind of gave out. I did my warmup sets, did the first 3 reps no problem, took a 5 second breather, went for the 4th and at the top, my lower back just let go. Lost tightness, full on rounding, pain shooting down my right hamstring, dropped the weight... Bad news all around. The weirdest thing is that I've done more weight than what I was lifting and just a week before I did 20 lbs less for 8 reps. Would a belt help prevent something like this from happening again in the future?
In related news, deadlifting is like some kind of wonderful drug. I had to stop deadlifting heavy for 2 weeks to rehab my hamstring and felt like shit the whole time. I wasn't sleeping well, felt groggy all the time, pretty miserable. I deadlifted heavy again last night and I feel like a new man. Confessions of an iron addict...
In related news, deadlifting is like some kind of wonderful drug. I had to stop deadlifting heavy for 2 weeks to rehab my hamstring and felt like shit the whole time. I wasn't sleeping well, felt groggy all the time, pretty miserable. I deadlifted heavy again last night and I feel like a new man. Confessions of an iron addict...
Sounds like a form issue. Belts aren't there to fix that. They are there to engage your core, specifically your abs, more.
HisshouBuraiKen
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Combine the two: hang the DB IN the chain for ultimate convenience. Much easier than futzing with plates.
Plus holding a DB in your ankles/knees is harder if you're stuck with dipping on a crappy assist station where the steps are right behind you and not off to the sides or something.
Mine is an assist station but the steps are to the side.
in fact, it's this one
HisshouBuraiKen
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strong stealth edit lol
Yeah it's still time for a belt and chain. 3 sets of 10 is a good all-around point to move up. Start with 10, or alternatively if you've lost weight since you could only do 2 add enough to get you back to that point and see how much you've progressed
strong stealth edit lol
Yeah it's still time for a belt and chain. 3 sets of 10 is a good all-around point to move up. Start with 10, or alternatively if you've lost weight since you could only do 2 add enough to get you back to that point and see how much you've progressed
Yeah, I've lost like 20 pounds. lol
Will start with 10 and see how that goes.
Thanks.
OreoKraickerz
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It's certainly possible but I did the first 3 reps without any trouble and actually got the 4th up to a lockout before my back just let go. I've been lifting for 18 months and have gone the last year or so squatting and deadlifting heavy without any injuries. I was pretty surprised it happened as I didn't try anything new or weird.
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Deleted member 47027
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What kind of alternatives to deadlifting do I have when my gym has no equipment? The obvious choice is to change gyms but I'm financially constrained for the time being. I'm preparing to stack on the calories once I finish dropping about 50 lbs of FATNESS and start gaining, but having no squat or deadlift equipment is seriously bumming me out. I guess I could deadlift my...car?
Could do weighted hyperextensions for now...although they're nowhere near as effective. Nowhere.
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Yeah, I'm...I'm gonna have to find something to work for this. Deadlifts are required for me as are squats. Maybe I should just postpone until I can get into a gym worth a shit.
MrToughPants
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I've neglected broceps for years and have only hit triceps directly besides the odd chinups. My arms look alright at almost 18" but its just a giant slab of horse shoe looking meat on my tris and small broceps that always strain when using the bolt cutters at work.
FallingEdge
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lol.
I feel you on that. Arms are just a slab. No definition at all. Triceps are solid. Biceps are meeeeeeeeh.
It's okay though. That all changes at the end of summer. MAN MODE.
Your gym doesn't have any barbell equipment?
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Deleted member 47027
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Nope. They kept removing thing after thing after thing and now we're left with VERY little. I want to leave, but I'm stuck at the moment. Eventually I'll move somewhere with real equipment. Disadvantages of living in a cowtown. I guess I could toss hay bales, I don't know.
MrToughPants
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Yea i'd like to add a few curls routinely to get them back to par atleast. It doesnt look bad right now but my broceps havent grown at all since they were ~16-16.5. Ive also strained my bicep twice now from work.
Poindexter
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haha this was me. 3 sets of curls a week make such a difference though. I started to notice them getting bigger after a few weeks. Well worth the ten minutes a week for me
Thanks guys, I'll just do that. State what I need and how I'm getting it and move on. They're like "you had chicken for lunch you had protein" I just keep saying "it's not enough."
Yo Sunny if you got the space for it, save up and buy some weights and equipment. Home gym is where it's at. Plus you save a lot of money in the long run.
Anton Sugar
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Man, it is RIDICULOUS how much stronger I feel when I lift at home (in Austin) versus my long trips to DC. When in DC, I'm cold, I don't have access to cheap BBQ every week, and I'm mostly sitting around all day (and thus, am stiffer). In Austin, the weather is great, I eat everything I need to, and even though I work in the office, I move upstairs and down for meetings.
When in DC, just about all of my lifts suffered. I didn't hit my needed bench or squat reps for the 5's and 3's weeks, and BARELY got 285x1 on bench.
Now, I'm back in Austin. Yesterday, on squat, I had a solid 425x1 (new PR). On my 3's week, I barely eeked out 400x1 (didn't get the next two reps).
Hopefully once DC warms up a bit, I won't have so much trouble. Even with longer warmups, I always feel "off" there. Doesn't help that they have shitty equipment at the gym there: one power rack and two squat stands (without safety bars, of course).
Compare that with my Austin gym, where we have 5 power racks and 6 stands. Also, almost every "hardcore" DC gym is also a Crossfit gym, but of course, to use the Crossfit equipment, you have to pay the Crossfit fee, which blows. They still allow you to do Crossfit-style stuff in the regular gym, which is frankly a little terrifying. There is no regard for safety--you have people squatting, deadlifting, snatching, and cleaning all within a 20'x20' area (also, there is a concrete pillar right in the middle). Luckily, no one is snatching or cleaning too heavy an amount of weight, so they rarely have to bail, but if they did, someone is getting smashed. I guess as long as you sign the waiver, they don't give a fuck.
/rant
When in DC, just about all of my lifts suffered. I didn't hit my needed bench or squat reps for the 5's and 3's weeks, and BARELY got 285x1 on bench.
Now, I'm back in Austin. Yesterday, on squat, I had a solid 425x1 (new PR). On my 3's week, I barely eeked out 400x1 (didn't get the next two reps).
Hopefully once DC warms up a bit, I won't have so much trouble. Even with longer warmups, I always feel "off" there. Doesn't help that they have shitty equipment at the gym there: one power rack and two squat stands (without safety bars, of course).
Compare that with my Austin gym, where we have 5 power racks and 6 stands. Also, almost every "hardcore" DC gym is also a Crossfit gym, but of course, to use the Crossfit equipment, you have to pay the Crossfit fee, which blows. They still allow you to do Crossfit-style stuff in the regular gym, which is frankly a little terrifying. There is no regard for safety--you have people squatting, deadlifting, snatching, and cleaning all within a 20'x20' area (also, there is a concrete pillar right in the middle). Luckily, no one is snatching or cleaning too heavy an amount of weight, so they rarely have to bail, but if they did, someone is getting smashed. I guess as long as you sign the waiver, they don't give a fuck.
/rant
The fuck, I need to move to Austin. Do you eat at Franklin BBQ?
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Deleted member 47027
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Unfortunately I don't have either the space or money to do that. Also I'd throw a hole in the floor.
However I might be able to supplement my workout if I got a barbell up in my apartment and use the gym for the other shit I can do. Hmmmm...
You aren't lying about the prevalence of Crossfit gyms in D.C. They seemed to come out of nowhere too. I feel like every neighborhood has one now.
Anton Sugar
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Nah, Franklin's is too primo--you can get there at 8 AM and you'll still be joining a line that stretches across the building. I live 100 yards from Ruby's, which is good "middle of the road" BBQ.
It's ridiculous. I was shocked that DC doesn't have a staple powerlifting gym. It's mainly 24 hour fitness places trying to cash in on Crossfit, and then the dedicated (i.e. crazy fee) Crossfit gyms.
You should try talking to them about coming in when they don't have classes to train. As I explained earlier, it's not that that the fee is expensive, it's that Crossfit is difficult to make profitable (like most pyramid schemes are). Knowing that walking in, gives you an advantage when negotiating.
Generally, if you pay a premium, like 50-100 per month, with some sort of term, you'll find one box desperate enough to let you in.
Fantastic, just what I need! Thank you!
Ah that's a shame, when you said you lived in cowtown I assumed you might have room for it.
Well I think it has a lot to do with the kind of people who have come to D.C. in recent years. As gentrification took off, most of the new residents couldn't be described as strength or body building advocates. They're usually just young Harry Reids, who consider their morning jog the only leg exercise they need. Good gyms usually can only be found in the surrounding Virginia and Maryland suburbs.
Poindexter
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I've never used dumb bells for bench, partially because of this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QnwAoesJvQ.
It just make's sense to me that to fix the bench you have to work the bench, and I should put aside assistance unto you reach an elite level.
The last few weeks I've attempted to shoehorn in a wide variety of assistance exercises despite knowing that, and I think that I didn't recover entirely in this most recent bench day.
I am reading that t-nation article though, good stuff.
It just make's sense to me that to fix the bench you have to work the bench, and I should put aside assistance unto you reach an elite level.
The last few weeks I've attempted to shoehorn in a wide variety of assistance exercises despite knowing that, and I think that I didn't recover entirely in this most recent bench day.
I am reading that t-nation article though, good stuff.
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