Keep in mind that Boehner also has to keep nearly every reactionary wacko, despite the fact that the CR doesn't defund Obamacare. If he loses 12 moderates and 12 reactionaries he's done.
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Keep in mind that Boehner also has to keep nearly every reactionary wacko, despite the fact that the CR doesn't defund Obamacare. If he loses 12 moderates and 12 reactionaries he's done.
PhoenixDark
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Hard to see how or why they'd ping pong another CR if this one fails at 8PM. Assuming the moderates blow up the CR at 8PM they aren't going to magically change their minds at 10 or 11PM.
Remember: it only takes the senate 20-30 minutes to table the House's shit, whereas the House takes hours to pass anything.
there was one offered last year after similar grandstanding, the chambers refused to even talk about it
Yes, someone. It'll be okay.
Aaron Strife
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I'll be here all week
Could have been a troll, but it was still kind of sad.
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I just found the answer to the question I asked a day or two ago about if the approval rating for obamacare was including people that wanted it to go further, and probably don't want to go backwards into a republican plan.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/27/fact-check-is-obamacare-unpopular/
43% approve, 35% disapprove because too liberal, 16% disapprove because it's not liberal enough.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/27/fact-check-is-obamacare-unpopular/
43% approve, 35% disapprove because too liberal, 16% disapprove because it's not liberal enough.
Fenderputty
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Done as the speaker or his own district? If I was Boehner I think I would be over trying to mediate these nutters. I do not envy his position.
Aaron Strife
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Curious how many Democrats would join the tea party in ousting Boehner if something like that ever got off the ground. They'd have to know whoever would replace him would be much worse, but on the other hand, it can't get much worse than it already is.
theprodigy
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but my Fox News talking points tell me it's unpopular! /foxviewer
I actually just meant that the CR wouldn't pass, at which point he'll basically have to bring up the clean CR. I honestly don't see Boehner losing the speakership.
Proof that Obamacare is already hurting small businesses.
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Fenderputty
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Gotcha ... Thanks.
Is that his strategy? Say "see, I told you so, I held on for as long as I could but the majority of our party doesn't want it", then force a clean CR?
I can't see Boehner losing either unless he loses his election. But as far as his Speakership? Nah. Maybe if he ragequits. Democrats know there's a huge risk in voting for his ouster as his replacement could be someone more sympathetic to the 30 loons gambling on a shutdown right now.
Looks like the resolution has been adopted! Good times :\
Anticitizen One
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This is what the media wants. Hysteria they are hoping some people go nuts and do something violent so they have more news to report.
The hillarious thing was CNN's headline earlier today "WILL THE LIGHTS GO OUT?"
Fenderputty
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LOL that person is in for some rough times in the next short term here. The debt ceiling gonna push them over the cliff.
NYCmetsfan
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Why would they help? Republicans in disarray would be amazing for Democratcs
Aaron Strife
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Ousting the Speaker might look better however. Tea partiers certainly wouldn't be able to do it by themselves, and speaker removal would require a majority.
Hobbestetrician
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A fiscal cliff?
The Librarian
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lol King
Fenderputty
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lol King what?
Nothing stops this train.
NYCmetsfan
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A pathetic leaders is better than a crazy one.
Fenderputty
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Their willingness to self implode has me a little worried about the debt ceiling negotiations myself.
Nothing that will pass the Senate.
NYCmetsfan
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The last bill was some reauthorization of some small program.
They passed the rules and the moderates chickened out.
Look on the bright side: the odds of Democrats retaking the House just shot way up.
NYCmetsfan
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If they fold here I'm not gonna be worried. Boenher doesn't want that to be on him.
Lol oh okay, silly me here I was thinking they might grow a pair and stop being babies. This guy from KY needs to STFU also.
So myopic. Those (few) moderate Republicans know where this will lead.
PhoenixDark
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Sounds like this CR will pass afterall. King's group has apparently been diffused by leadership.
NYCmetsfan
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I get to go into work tomorrow. Gonna be fun!
This group is easily my favorite.
TacticalFox88
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Remember, this is a party acting this petulant over a law giving millions access to affordable healthcare.
SMFH.
SMFH.
jamesinclair
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37. Would the government continue to pay unemployment benefits? Yes. The Employment and Training Administration "will continue to provide essential functions, as occurred during the shutdown of 1995," according to the Department of Labor contingency plan.
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28. Will the government still release economic data? Probably. The weekly unemployment claims number would still come out, and the September jobs report, due out Friday, probably will, too. The Department of Commerce reasons that some of its data is so economically sensitive that delaying it risks that it will be leaked.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tions-and-answers-about-the-shutdown/2888419/
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