That's normally the name of the game during Kobe talk.
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2012 NBA Playoffs |OT3| If he dies, he dies *wink*
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That's normally the name of the game during Kobe talk.
The dude's resume is good enough where I prefer to talk about what is
A few of the 2000-2002 playoff games, just to jog your memory.
36/9/8
45/10/3
48/16
25/11/7/4 and 15 in the fourth
There's a lot more...but I'm tired...those are option A "Best player in the league" type performances.
ryutaro's mama
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BTW, BFF, did you have Hulk Hogan-esque flashbacks tonight when AI made a cameo?
Well, I'd say its easier to build around prime Shaq than prime Jordan.
They going to pay him in Giants season tickets or something?
I could almost understand just liking Kobe more than Shaq, or Kareem (or Wilt) for whatever reason, but performance stuff loses me entirely.
Sure...if your second best guy was an all world defender that could get you 40/10 in playoff games
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I'm not getting into this discussion but...
People like to re-imagine the 3 Peat years like Kobe was this bum that Shaq dragged along to the Finals for 3 years. Like he was Rick Fox-esque.
Kobe fucking made a career torching the 5pur5 but people (like jobber and JT) would love to pretend these things didn't happen.
NO FUCKING WAY SHAQ 3 PEATS WITHOUT BRYANT.
Dude was dropping numbers in the playoffs that were silly.
People like to re-imagine the 3 Peat years like Kobe was this bum that Shaq dragged along to the Finals for 3 years. Like he was Rick Fox-esque.
Kobe fucking made a career torching the 5pur5 but people (like jobber and JT) would love to pretend these things didn't happen.
NO FUCKING WAY SHAQ 3 PEATS WITHOUT BRYANT.
Dude was dropping numbers in the playoffs that were silly.
He only put up those numbers due to the attention Shaq was drawing.
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And what of the years when Kobe played with garbage and dropped insane numbers including 81 in one game?
Did you not watch that highlight reel that was posted with shaq in foul trouble sitting out on the sidelines and nodding his head? Or is this just blind commenting?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyfR2pDOt3k
This was just insane. Even kevin durant is not at this level of play.
9 straight 40 point games says "Fuck you clown!"
Brandon Jennings put up good scoring numbers on a bad team (playing bad teams).
I think the argument is that Shaq was without a doubt the best player at his position in the league, and he had a history 4-5 year stretch where he was the most dominant man in the game. The gap between Shaq and the next guy was a lot wider than Kobe and prime Vince. Or prime Tmac (although I struggle to say this without laughing - not that Tmac wasn't great...just...playoffs).
What does it matter about the gap if kobe was also the top player at his position?
You were talking about Brandon jennings good sir.................
And kobe at 23 is> Durant at 23
Playing one of the most overrated FPS franchise in gaming history I guess.
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He wasn't. Iverson was better, then T-Mac.
Also Durant @ 23 is noticeably better than Kobe @ 23: http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2002&p2=duranke01&y2=2012, while leading his team to the WCF.
There was no competition to Shaq for a short time. The only way to defend him was to beat him up in the post.
Nvm.
MorisUkunRasik
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If it were my job to raise TheKad I imagine most of my talks with him would end that exact way.
ryutaro's mama
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I think he actually believes his "trolls" now.
T-Mac better than Kobe?
Muhahahaha...
Its funny how at one point that was actually a relevant discussion.
Poor T Mac.
http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2002&p2=mcgratr01&y2=2002
Identical, except T-Mac actually improved his play in the postseason while Kobe relied on getting carried by the most dominant player in the league.
And that's not even T-Mac's best year.
LOL. But yeah, it's okay to think T-mac etc etc was better but fact remains kobe won 3 rings as the Number 2 on a team. I guess as a kobe fan i can live with that.
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T Mac wouldn't even be foolish to believe that--and he's T Mac!
I suppose Penny was better, Vince, Francis, Starbury...all better!
Kobe is Super Bassy!
Yeah, Shaq was really good.
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And yet the second round...with Yao...unattainable.
He really was, wasn't he? Don't forget about pau...
I hope you aren't taking Kad seriously.....
Nah, i was initially tho....
ryutaro's mama
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Again, Kobe stans plug their ears when they hear things they don't like.
I literally lol'd
Dude, the reason no one takes your dumb T Mac argument literally is because it's been debunked before. You're arguing Option A stats against Option B stats and they're BARELY better in TMac's favor. And if T Mac was in LA he would be Option B behind Shaq too, so it's disingenuous. Kobe was a much better defender, much better as a 1st option when he was a first option, and much more successful in his career. T Mac is probably the only guy who can be compared to Kobe, but its a Jordan/Drexler argument at best.
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You're so bad at this.
You claim T-Mac got BETTER in the playoffs but he couldn't get out the first round, playing with Yao.
How do you explain that?
Was Yao a bum?
Was T Mac a bum?
If you say Yao was a bum, your argument is laughable. Yao was amazing.
If you say T Mac was a bum, you defeat your own argument.
So why was "better than Kobe" T-Mac unable to get to the second round with Yao?
You're right. I have no idea how Kobe put up such poor efficiency playing next to the most dominant force in basketball (and coached by Phil). T-Mac would have been much better for the Lakers now that I think about it.
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What nonsense are you talking right now? Kobe shot a better percentage from the field...unless you're talking about the playoffs, where T Mac played in one round, where kobe played in 4 successively more difficult rounds.
The problem with all of your Kobe opinions is that they are all troll-level bad. If you could possess a single valid argument, people would agree with you. But T-Mac > Kobe is the basketball equivalent of Obama = Muslim...just find a different player to denigrate...you're scraping at the bottom of the barrel with your BS now
His TS% was marginally better (efg% lower) playing, again, next to the most dominant player perhaps of all time. That's not something to hang your hat on when T-Mac was carrying trash to the playoffs.
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you even overvalue his villain status..
no gives ALL the credit to anyone.. you are trying so hard to find inconsistencies it's funny..
Kobe was a great sidekick to Shaq.. one of, if not the greatest 1-2 punch the NBA had ever seen..
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