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2014 FIFA World Cup |OT| Spa1n v The Netherland5
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Meh, awful football team, horrible to watch.
Should be excommunicated by FIFA, a blight on world football.
Hoping for RVP!
Meus Renaissance
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With their style of football and their squad, I think Spain are better equipped than most to recover from setbacks like this. More so than the defensive problems on display last night was the worrying drop in confidence and heart by the Spanish soon after the equaliser. Let's not forget that they were in largely in control of that first half and could have ended the game had they not tried to constantly walk the ball in the net.
After the goal, it was a different game. You could see the nerves in Spain and the confidence that was flaring from the Dutch; they didn't want HT.
Perhaps the Netherlands have exposed a growing sense of scepticism within the Spanish about their own ability? Or perhaps it was the shock of naively assuming they just needed to turn up to win?
What will help Spain's chances is that, for the first time in a while, there isn't really a stand out side who are favourites for this tournament. For however brilliant they were in the 2nd half, the Dutch are infamously inconsistent. Assuming both sides beat Australia, the question will come down to whichever of the two is more likely to beat Chile.
I can see Chile beating the Netherlands and I can see a desperate Spain humbling Chile. In that sense, I'm not taking a great deal from yesterday's result. The performance, however, is a worry. Still, were Spain to finish runners up in this group, I still think they'd be favourites to beat Brazil (assuming they win their own group).
Thoughts?
After the goal, it was a different game. You could see the nerves in Spain and the confidence that was flaring from the Dutch; they didn't want HT.
Perhaps the Netherlands have exposed a growing sense of scepticism within the Spanish about their own ability? Or perhaps it was the shock of naively assuming they just needed to turn up to win?
What will help Spain's chances is that, for the first time in a while, there isn't really a stand out side who are favourites for this tournament. For however brilliant they were in the 2nd half, the Dutch are infamously inconsistent. Assuming both sides beat Australia, the question will come down to whichever of the two is more likely to beat Chile.
I can see Chile beating the Netherlands and I can see a desperate Spain humbling Chile. In that sense, I'm not taking a great deal from yesterday's result. The performance, however, is a worry. Still, were Spain to finish runners up in this group, I still think they'd be favourites to beat Brazil (assuming they win their own group).
Thoughts?
Bam Bam Baklava
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Robben got it this time. Would have been nice I got RVP too.
who cares. only the W counts. i still love how salty people are over 2004. hahahahaha. fucking ronaldo crying. beautiful.
Well crap, it was a 50/50 chance
Yes Spain just cracked. It happens sometimes. On paper the Spanish side is still a lot better than the Dutch one. It wasn't exactly as if the Netherlands was controlling the game up till the 2-1. So if they can shrug it off and/or the Netherlands becomes overconfident, we can still see Spain advance and Holland getting knocked out.
Star Falcon
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I'd love to, might try and get a nap this afternoon in though otherwise I'll probably pass out :/
The_Hitcher89
Member
I get the feeling Spain will be persisting with many of these players when they're like 35 years old, and struggle to phase them out brutally enough
Barack Lesnar
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Colombia 3, Greece 1 (12pm eastern start)
Uruguay 2, Costa Rica 1 (3pm)
England 2, Italy 1 (6pm)
Ivory Coast 1, Japan 0 (9pm)
Uruguay 2, Costa Rica 1 (3pm)
England 2, Italy 1 (6pm)
Ivory Coast 1, Japan 0 (9pm)
ambientmystic
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Spain had the all the possession in the world during that match but they couldn't do shit with it lol.
All that pussyfooting with the ball had finally bitten them in the ass in that particular match.
(You can tell I really dislike their extremely possessive playstyle lol. Rapidly Attacking/Aggressive teams like Germany ftw.)
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Meus Renaissance
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They should use their squad.
Substitutes
02 Albiol
04 Javi Martínez
05 Juanfran
07 Villa
09 Torres
10 Fábregas
11 Pedro
12 de Gea
13 Mata
17 Koke
20 Cazorla
23 Reina
Maybe use a false 9 too.
Busquets - Cazorla - Fabregas - Iniesta - Alonso - Mata
Those are some good points. I think Spain's biggest fault is hanging on to the aging Barcelona stars. No disrespect to Xavi and Iniesta, but they already got exposed last year vs Bayern and havent been able to beat a well coached, counter-attacking team like Atletico in ages. I'm not saying that Xavi and Iniesta cant play a viable role at this World Cup but considering all circumstances Spain cant afford to start both of them anymore. To complicate matters Busquets doesnt really function that well if his team isnt in total control.
Nonetheless I still believe that this game could end up helping them if they decide to inject some fresh blood into their squad (no pun intended). I mean look at their squad, with Martinez, Koke, Carzola and Fabregas (to some extent) they already have the solution for their troubles sitting on the bench. Especially Martinez would've changed the game yesterday. At Bayern he's shown time and time again that he's able to single handedly shore up a crappy defense.
Regarding the Dutch, with RVP and Robben in this form the sky is the limit for them. They are basically playing like Dortmund and I don't see any of the favorites being able to cope with that style. I'd favor them against Germany or Brazil if they make it that far, but like you said aggressive scrappy teams like Chile pose a real threat to them.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Better keep going at this pace.
Broder Salsa
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He let in two Bendtner goals during the qualifiers, I think that is enough proof.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Whose the most prime GK in this tournament right now? Neuer?
I can't read that paper through all this bukkake
you know what.
I'll let Italy do the talking
Spartans were greek m8
i couldnt find any gifs of mussolini pls understand
SargerusBR
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you know what.
I'll let Italy do the talking
Those are greeks
Broder Salsa
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I would say Courtois but he's going to be even better next season. Neuer could be a good answer, I don't want Bayern so can't really tell. Hart is also in his prime, his prime is shit but that's what makes it funny innit, he's never going to get better.
Haha nice, saw someone I know now living in Amsterdam upload videos of the parties that went on, looked like a good night.
Neuer with Weidenfeller and Courtois rounding out the top 3.
Shanks D Zoro
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SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
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We have got this guy.
He's a brit.
intheinbetween
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congrats to our fellow dutchies, very well played 
Broder Salsa
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I think the difference between Neuer, Courtois is marginal. Weidenfeller and Courtois might even be better a bit better at shot blocking than Neuer, but he's the most complete GK all things considered (leadership, commanding the box and catching crosses, build up play, playing libero or attacking #10, headers in the opposing half etc).
If I had to win one single match I'd field Neuer.
Shanks D Zoro
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I miss Pullo
My favourite show and he was the best character in it.
and these
Well hopefully we channel the energy of Titus Pullo rather than whatever that is.
and these
our backline tonight
Shanks D Zoro
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Fuck De Sciglio getting injured. I really don't like Chiellini play as a Lb.
And dont forget this gem
Ugabunga
I need your honest opinion. Will Italy be able to beat England? I currently favor you but you are making me nervous.
And dont forget this gem
unbelievable
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