Its amazing how the presence of a god is indistinguishable from the lack of a god.
If there was no god, he would never answer prayers.
Supposedly these christians believe in a god, yet he doesn't answer prayers.
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2nd Child of Pa. Couple Dies After Only Praying (Update: sentenced)
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Its amazing how the presence of a god is indistinguishable from the lack of a god.
If there was no god, he would never answer prayers.
Supposedly these christians believe in a god, yet he doesn't answer prayers.
Freezie KO
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If I ever get a terminal illness and someone says they'll pray for me, I'm going to throw my bedpan at them.
IHaveCandy
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They should be in jail. I don't want any mercy die to good intentions. Their god will take care of them through prison.
Did the parents let an innocent child die through neglecting to use the medicinal gifts bestowed on mankind? Or did God let an innocent child die through neglecting to use His infinite power to answer the prayers of his faithful and devoted worshippers?
He should at least consider clearing things up to avoid the same or similar incidents in the future by revealing to mankind which of the thousands of different sects of Christianity "has it right".
Eight Diagram Bat Fighter
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"Faith without works is dead". Gotta do all that you can first. That is where the work comes into play. Faith comes after you've exhausted all your options and have done everything you can.
These parents are looking for an immediate solution with no effort on their parts.
These parents are looking for an immediate solution with no effort on their parts.
PartlyCloudlike
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Whatever dude. I thought I had lost my car keys until I found them behind the couch cushion. I also lost 5 pounds. GOD IS GOOD
Faith sounds dumb.
speculawyer
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Is this real?
I might have to call the 800 number to find out.
I might have to call the 800 number to find out.
speculawyer
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Works without faith is . . . well, the same was works with faith.
perfectchaos007
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They probably believe in pre-destination so they will rationalize his death as being inevitable. God was going to take him at that time regardless according to their beliefs. The mother should be forced to have her tubes tied otherwise her subsequent kids will just die/suffer when they get sick.
Taking out the horrific horrific circumstances (if we can...) the whole thing just makes no sense to me at all.
If you believe that a) there is a god and b) God is all powerful, all controlling etc, then SURELY you've got to believe that advances made my the human race in modern medicine etc are planned and controlled by God? They only happen because God made them happen?
Surely??
Or am I missing something?
If you believe that a) there is a god and b) God is all powerful, all controlling etc, then SURELY you've got to believe that advances made my the human race in modern medicine etc are planned and controlled by God? They only happen because God made them happen?
Surely??
Or am I missing something?
The devil. Who is a more hands on being than god, and therefore anything material is of the devil. Or something.
As a Christian why would you want to try to keep yourself alive for as long as possible with modern medicine?
speculawyer
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If the parents get two controlled experiments like this . . . doesn't this tell them anything?
Talk about receiving a sign from (none) god.
Talk about receiving a sign from (none) god.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
I dont view myself as an outright athiest, but I really dont understand religous faith. I kind of want to read the bible, in hopes of understanding all of this better.
Angelus Errare
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Weird because there are a shit-ton of hospitals in Japan and Christianity isn't a big thing there...but I digress.
Can't tell if this some amazing sarcasm or you truly believe this lunacy.
I imagine that for trained mentalgymnasts a minor thing like this is squared away easily. Why would they even care about death in the first place anyway?
Well that doesn't really apply since 'modern science' as we know was incomprehensible when the gospels were written.
Applying the literal word of the bible in these circumstances is almost as stupid as applying the second amendment to high powered assault rifles.
As a catholic, I believe these people need to go to jail.
I don't think he was saying that would be the only reason there are hospitals :/ And that post was a joke according to the poster.
LOL, I would quite like to see that.
out0v0rder
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The kids are in heaven now. Good for them
lol
Mauricio_Magus
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yeah, fuck religion
I know it's just a small number of people that are this stupid.... but damn.
I know it's just a small number of people that are this stupid.... but damn.
I just don't get it with train-of-thoughts like this. I was Catholic (and somewhat still is) but there was a point in my life when I compared facts and what's been thought, and they just don't match well. So I went with my rational thoughts instead of following blindly.
It reminds me a friend of a friend who once told me that those who don't believe in the Christian church will go to Hell. So I asked her "What about those people unfortunate enough to live far far away from civilization and never heard or seen any missionary?". You know what her answer was? "Well, it's unfortunate for them". I rolled my eyes so hard after hearing that and wondered how a person can be so blinded by a text, even if it's a supposedly Holy text and so devoid of rational thinking.
Mauricio_Magus
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things like this make me wonder how anyone with at least half a brain cell can be religious, but I guess this isn't the kind of thread to be talking about that.
I'm just mad at those parents, how can you care so little of your children? fuck... and it was EASY to cure shit.
sigh...
QuicheFontaine
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That sounds like "science talk" to me, mister.
Bzz, don't use that argument, yo. The pre-prepared replies are ready for that: Some parts are allegorical and some parts are literal, and the fallible parts were caused by fallible man. The Good Parts are still from God.
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Hey fuck you Catherine.
Uni on Everything!
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Disgusting turds. Lock them up and throw away the keys.
Freezie KO
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No one should take the bible seriously.
That makes sense...like in bizarro world.
Fuck that noise, that book kills. I take it seriously.
fabricated backlash
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End of. Shit like this needs to be made illegal.
Also, y'know, *seven* other children. Nine total. That's... a lot.
I'd *hope* that this would challenge their worldview a bit, but I think the interpretation they're going to end up going towards is that God was punishing them for some transgression. That's another tragedy; faith so strong that losing two children to neglect and another seven to foster care *still* doesn't make them wonder that perhaps they should reevaluate it.
andthebeatgoeson
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Probably wanted them to go to a doctor.
andthebeatgoeson
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He should have made us better. We have used anything and everything to justify killing. The Bible, Koran, science texts. Tuskegee was in the name of science god.
In the US? Good luck making religious ceremonies that are harmful for children illegal. If that were the case, they'd probably eradicate baptizing, circumcision, those weird chanting displays you see in Jesus Camp, Jehovah's Witnesses and their weird blood issues, those weird Rabbis who suck blood from penises, etc...
If they got rid of those, the various groups would immediately scream persecution and murder the politician who tried it.
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