adults, why do you 'console war'?

Back when I was a Sony fanboy, I did it because I wanted ways to justify my purchase of a PS3. It fell cool to be on the 'right' side.

Thankfully I was able to get into PC gaming and grow out of it.
 
I occasionally fall in to console war because I have a hard time ignoring blatantly ignorant statements with no basis in fact.
 
polyh3dron said:
Yeah I own all the current gen consoles since I don't want to miss out on good exclusives, and MS keeps doing things that make me regret buying their console such as the very quick "price drop" for lack of a better term, and making their games almost like Free To Play games with the level of IAP.
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Can't really hold that one against them, they are barely outselling the Wii U, globally, right now. It sucks for early adopters, but its the risk you take.
 
Ethan18 said:
Pretty much sums it up in one word.

Also, I don't get the sports analogy. In sports there are winners and losers, there shouldn't be in gaming. No "gamer" should want a gaming company to fail. Fair enough they have preferences and don't like a company for whatever reason, but it starts getting childish when they force those opinions and preferences on other people and tell them that what they like is wrong.
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Why ?

No wanting to fail= wanting to see inferior product rewarded with sales.
 
michaelius said:
Why ?

No wanting to fail= wanting to see inferior product rewarded with sales.
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The inferior product, in your opinion. For millions and millions of people, especially casuals who enjoy or have family or friends who enjoy playing Just Dance and using the XBone as their entertainment center, it's a better value.

Not everybody has the same needs as you.
 
Captain Najork said:
Petty tribalism. The Infamous 3 has gone gold thread is pretty odd, as it's a mixture of fanaticisms blended with obvious shills and a sprinkling of just plain weird.
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I find this post gloriously ironic in the context of this thread.

You're obviously just jelly that you haven't got a beanie.
 
This generation is probably the only generation where I've actively rooted for one company to win, in this case Sony. After the the DRM nonsense, Microsoft getting anywhere near a position of power terrifies me to no end.
 
Don't want a console with too much of a casual selection. Invest in a PC. Guarantee you will not be disappointed and you will forget the console war. (Although I am still a staunch supporter of Nintendo despite the pathetic release of the Wii U)
 
I was Sony fanboy eight years ago. Two years later I found it stupid.
I don't scream if I have any other thoughs about the other competitors on the market, but I keep that to myself and lead a rational conversation if that time comes.

But yeah, I know many IRL adults that have strong bias to one console and they laugh when I told them what I have. Needles to say, I do the "heh" to them and leave them alone.
 
michaelius said:
Why ?

No wanting to fail= wanting to see inferior product rewarded with sales.
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In this post, with this very word, we have the root of people's fanboyish tendencies. A perspective not defined by competition itself but there inherently needing there to be a generalized winner and/or loser as determined by a lone individual's desires, and not those of the market that can decide for itself.
 
I ended up getting a PS4 (and a Vita), but I will admit that at this point, I'd get a certain amount of irrational satisfaction if Sony were to go under if only to experience the lamentations of all the Sony fanboys. I'm not sure why, except perhaps, as karmic justice for all of the hyperbole I've seen from that end over the years.
 
Bias, specifically choice supportive bias, where we tend to associate a decision with positive attributes after it has been made. In other words, after a choice is made, we retroactively "believe" it is the best choice possible.

Let's say a person chose to buy a PS4; if we point out the console's weaker aspects versus the Xbone (examples: lack of DLNA, CD playback, etc.), s/he will downplay them through arguments that were made in hindsight, but believed to have been part of the decision making process.
 
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
People who are always salty that someone has to point out there disapproval of a game just because they themselves like it and would rather people who don't like it to stay out, really need stop. Sure, It's not fun reading through threads if people are going to say the same thing over and over again. But guess what? It's a forum. Deal with it. People have opinions and regardless of how negative it is, it doesn't mean they don't get to have a say just because it isn't positive. I know I say some contradictory stuff myself but in the end, the message is play games and enjoy them. Gaming is one of the coolest hobbies around and if we didn't have this, "consoles wars", it would just be empty and boring.
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This reads like a response to my post, so I'd like to clarify. I don't have a problem with negative comments that pertain to the topic discussed. I'm happy to argue why 6v6 is a valid design choice or not in a thread pertaining to the game's player count (in fact, I pretty much never post unless it's to argue about something), but if in that same topic the posts are instead simply "I don't know why the press is so intent in pushing this game on us!", or "it's just COD with mechs"... that isn't the topic being discussed. Yes, this is a forum, but we have topics for a reason. They're there to allow posters to discuss a topic without the conversation spiralling off into various completely unrelated arguments. Without topics a thread on if you'd like Zelda to become more open, could just as easily become an argument on why I think Daytona USA is better. If you think Titanfall's hype is manufactured, then that should be discussed in a "is the media artificially hyping Titanfall?" thread, and not one about player counts or map counts. This is what has recently not really been working as well as it should due to many people's insistence on making the same points in all threads regardless of what the topic actually is.

That is what I see as the difference between people discussing their preferences/likes/dislikes (which is good), and people simply going up to bat for their favourite corporation at every opportunity (which is ridiculous, and sad imo).
 
The reasons why I'm a combined Sony/Nintendo fanboy are as follows:

1, Because I care about protecting my hobby, and I truly believe Microsoft's influence on the market is bad for the industry.

2. Because the games they put out are rarely the sort of games that I like to play.

3. Because I don't want to see paywalls for 3rd party apps and the sort of DRM MS were proposing to become standard in this industry.
 
I can afford both but who has the time to play both I have family, work (a life) plus first console I bought was PS1 so I'm a man who sticks to what he likes (PS, Holden, bangers & mash, ice coffee) that is who I am and usually when ya like something it's because you don't like the other so it's natural but as you get older & slightly more mature these things don't matter so much
 
Look, my best friend was killed in the great console war of the 90s. His dying wish was that I prove every single Nintendo nay sayer wrong even if it mean complete denial of the facts and till the the day I die I will fulfil that wish.
 
Console wars got old 20 years ago. Back then you had to stand and be counted face to face, real blood was often drawn!

Nowadays it's just people hiding behind computer screens arguing over luxury entertainment products made by faceless corporations, presumably because they have no proper life :(
 
I will own all the consoles at some point in their life cycle and honestly don't see the point in arguing about which one is the best. They all have positives and negatives. If you can't see that then you are probably blinded by fanboyism. Except the PC which obviously has zero negatives.
 
I'm not exacting console waring, but at the moment i'm still shocked on what MS tryied to pull on my hobby(happened the same with the damn Wii), and i'm still not believing they have changed their plan on those policies: and since i hated those plans because i think they are the wrong way to steer the industry i'm hating on them.

So "bad" news about their box makes me happy at the moment, it's a sort of purgatory.

Time will heal this sentiment.
 
chickdigger802 said:
Listening to old 1up podcasts, and it seems like the argument for console wars is because kids can only afford one console and gotta feel defensive about their purchase?

I know gaf audience is mostly of the older crowd who has jobs who probably can afford all the consoles and maybe even a pc too (layoff italian meals), so what motivates you to war? exclusives? suckered into marketing? bored at work and need to vent on something?

I mean sony and ms are about the same 'evil', one just has a better marketing strategy today. this can easily change.
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With me, it's handled very firmly with tongue in cheek, dating back to C64 vs Spectrum bickering at school. I reign it in on GAF, but playing the role of the blind zealot is kinda fun providing you're doing it with people who are in on the joke.
 
MAD Polo said:
I did the only adult thing and bought both.
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People live and breath competition. It's always fun to watch or take parts in conflicts as long as no one gets seriously hurt. Other than few people experiencing mental breakdowns, I see no harm in it.
 
It's funny I didn't even know what console wars were till PS3 was coming out and I'd had ps1 & PS2 before it lol
 
I think that some people like the drama more than the actual videogames, they could buy another console to play exclusive games if they were serious about it. You should play the games, reading shit at work is optional.
 
semiconscious said:
yeah, the op's 'assumption' that working / having a job = good amount of expendable income is pretty friggin' naive. right up there with 'we all have cheap, fast online access'...
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The assumption that buying every platform makes you wiser is from the same book.
 
"My toy is better than your toy"

People like to be (emotionally) attached to something.

Apple vs Samsung etc
ios vs android
Sennheiser vs Beyerdynamics etc
The Doors vs Led Zeppelin
Nikon vs Canon
Adidas vs Nike

You can find console wars in every branch of every hobby in every age group.
 
Nothing to do with "kids" or gaming. People "war" about anything.

iOs vs Android?
Canon vs Nikon?
Firefox vs Chrome?
Smartphone x vs Smartphone y
car company x vs car company y?
Could keep this list endlessly.


You have something you bought and like, then someone comes "lulz, that stuff is shit". > WAR ;)

Edit: :lol get of my head Canis lupus. HAX !
 
Up until the generation before last I had been a one console man, and that was always a Nintendo machine.

Right around the time the 360 was released, I bought an original XBox to supplement my GameCube and play the third party games that were skipping Nintendo's console late in the generation.

After moving on to the Wii, I eventually bought an XBox 360 because of how much I loved the original XBox. I enjoyed the 360, at first. Then I got a PlayStation 3. It was my first Sony console, ever. I found myself playing the PS3 more and the 360 less. Eventually the 360 just began to collect dust. I ended up giving it to a friend after it sat unused for close to two years.

I am a lifelong fan of Nintendo's games. As long as they have a home console, I plan to own it. I've come to love Sony's exclusives with stuff like Uncharted, Infamous, LittleBigPlanet. The Last Of Us, etc. Microsoft exclusives, besides Crackdown, just don't interest me. First person shooters make me nauseous, so I don't really care about franchises such as Halo.

I bought a Wii U at launch and decided early on that I would stick with a Nintendo/Sony combination because they offer 95% of the games I am interested in. I bought a PlayStation 4 about two months ago (and still have my PS3). Unless there are a few killer XBox One exclusives that really grab my attention, I have no plans on owning an XBO.
 
semiconscious said:
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yeah, the op's 'assumption' that working / having a job = good amount of expendable income is pretty friggin' naive. right up there with 'we all have cheap, fast online access'...
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Hey I said 'probably'!

Budgeting out a grand on video game systems ( within a systems 5-7 year lifespan) is not an impossible task.
 
I don't think there are actually THAT many console warriors on GAF. I mean people who, if Sony and MS's positions were reversed, would just swap positions accordingly. I can think of a few but I think most people who are negative about MS at the moment are negative because the last 12 months of Xbone has been lies, deceptions, outright insults to their userbase, capped off with an obviously rushed, half-finished product, with less power and fewer features than their competition, which they have the audacity to charge a hefty sum extra for.
 
It's simple, I don't.

I love to lurk the conversations though and sometimes give my opinion. Any passionate discourse is interesting disregarding the topic. Console wars are some of the most passionate topics.
 
I only give my honest opinion and I don't buy the BS that everything must be leveled between all companies in the market and its the consumer job to make sure no company exits the market.

The line of though that one console can't be more powerful than the other or clearly offer more value in general , that technical aspects don't matter, that the internal studios output is on the same level, its all BS.

All the discussion revolve around multiplataform differences now because that is pretty much all that is going on and because people insist with the same arguments that in turn will fuel the discussion.

Those sort of consumer product "wars" are a common thing and as long as it doesn't turn in complete irrationality, its fine.
 
Most of us don't. We watch the 20 or so go back and forth sometimes because it's funny.

Plus, as a PC gamer, I fucking loooooathe Microsoft so it's nice to see them being called out for the fucktards they are.

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Poundis Rex post
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dude you are so kawaii
 
chickdigger802 said:
Listening to old 1up podcasts, and it seems like the argument for console wars is because kids can only afford one console and gotta feel defensive about their purchase?

I know gaf audience is mostly of the older crowd who has jobs who probably can afford all the consoles and maybe even a pc too (layoff italian meals), so what motivates you to war? exclusives? suckered into marketing? bored at work and need to vent on something?

I mean sony and ms are about the same 'evil', one just has a better marketing strategy today. this can easily change.
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I don't think they have full understanding what loyalty to a brand or side means. I know people who not only can afford to have all major consoles, but actually do own all 3, yet they still favor and blindly defend one of them to the point of weird.
 
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