Yeah, they stopped doing those. Phase 2 had also Agent Carter. All Hail The King was the last one
Phase 1 had 3 One-Shots: The Consultant, A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To Thor's Hammer, Item 47
Ant-Man |Spoiler Thread| I Think Our First Move Should Be Calling The Avengers
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Yeah, they stopped doing those. Phase 2 had also Agent Carter. All Hail The King was the last one
Phase 1 had 3 One-Shots: The Consultant, A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To Thor's Hammer, Item 47
MadLaughter
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I have a question. What the hell happened to Yellowjacket at the end? Is he in the quantum realm? I read a wiki page that said that was the case, but it looked pretty horrific, like his suit was shrinking but he wasn't, or something.
Good movie, had me worried for the first third or so though. Scott being ostracized in the most reductive and hamfisted ways, the friends not clicking, the suit heist feeling pretty amateur, etc. Things improved immensely as soon as Hank showed up in the jail. Then they sort of stumbled a bit with the Falcon fight scene set a new bar for the term 'shoehorn'. Still good stuff overall though. Zero G fight to The Cure and the Quantum Realm made up for them spoiling Thomas the Tank Engine in the trailers.
RIP Antony.
RIP Antony.
He got tiny then exploded. I don't think he's in the quantum realm.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah, I wonder how they'll use him in the next movie. Maybe have him try and make Giant Men?
Probably the right call for you
Hey, not everything works for everyone
It's just really disappointing because on paper, I should love this movie. The action's great, I love the actors, and I'm a Marvel fan. It's just so... blah to me, and boringly put-together.
I'm kind of with you on this. While I overall enjoyed the movie door what it was, the sloppy directing, especially during any scene with Antony or just the ants in general felt like they did what ever was on the storyboard and didn't at all try to translate it to be more filmic.It's just really disappointing because on paper, I should love this movie. The action's great, I love the actors, and I'm a Marvel fan. It's just so... blah to me, and boringly put-together.
This film is also unnecessarily dark in colour tone for some reason, which I can imagine being a huge sticking point for Wright, who hasn't shot something this dark since Spaced.
Also didn't really care for Rudd's sadlibs which I usually love. They felt really tacked on, like they had to punch up the scene but didn't quite know how. The moment after they reveal Janet's fate really stood out as Rudd thinking what he does best would fit, but it just reminds you he's Paul Rudd.
Other than that, really enjoyable, and you could really tell the parts Wright had a hand in, especially on the action. Gonna watch it a bunch more once it hits VoD, but I doubt I buy it, since is guaranteed not to have nearly the great content it would if Wright was still aboard, especially in regards to commentary.
Relativ9
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Watched it last night, good movie. Funny.
I wish they would follow their own logic though. If the suit/serum decreases the distances between particles then going sub-atomic wouldn't work. Similarly if altering the distance between particles is all it does, then Ant-Man should still have the same mass. We see the effect of this heavy mass in the beginning when he falls through floors, cracks bathroom tiles and shoots through windows while tiny. Yet his incredible density and weight doesn't put the weight of a full grown man on the shoulders of people he climbs on. I'm perfectly fine with saying "it's just a fun dumb movie" and enjoying it for what it is, but somehow I think it might've actually improved if it treated the "magic" of the suit/serum with more consistency.
I wish they would follow their own logic though. If the suit/serum decreases the distances between particles then going sub-atomic wouldn't work. Similarly if altering the distance between particles is all it does, then Ant-Man should still have the same mass. We see the effect of this heavy mass in the beginning when he falls through floors, cracks bathroom tiles and shoots through windows while tiny. Yet his incredible density and weight doesn't put the weight of a full grown man on the shoulders of people he climbs on. I'm perfectly fine with saying "it's just a fun dumb movie" and enjoying it for what it is, but somehow I think it might've actually improved if it treated the "magic" of the suit/serum with more consistency.
I believe Fiege said that once the TV shows came along they stopped producing One Shots but he was open to making them again in the future. Imagine the possibility with Ant-Man. You could have one with Michael Pena, one with Michael Douglas, etc.
Yeah, that bugged me too. I wish they hadn't tried to explain the way it works, because that just introduced more problems than just saying, "Pym particles shrink shit."
Really though, shrinking and growing doesn't really work any way you think about it. Like, if you're 1/100 normal size, your body suddenly has to deal with air molecules that are 100 times bigger than usual. You wouldn't be able to breathe.
It's like time travel: It's best not to think about it too hard.
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I kinda wish they paced Hope's change of emotion a bit later. It was odd that she had that revelation then the next scene she's all fine.
Frosty Droid
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Physicist and comic book fan Dr. James Kakalios wrote a great book on the physics of superheroes. There's an entire chapter devoted to Ant-Man.
kinoki
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So just got back from it. Really enjoyed it. One of the better Marvel-movies. There's so many things that are so well set-up. Everyone did great. Michael Douglas was better in this than anything I remember seeing him in. Michael Peña was great and stole a lot of the spot light. Even Paul Rudd managed to deliver a good performance. All around great.
Glass Rebel
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I think the "problem" is that the One Shot team is now on Agent Carter and quite busy.
Discotheque
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if only michael pena followed and fell through the fence lol.
Dyson Industries
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I saw it last night.. Competent and completely unnecessary. The elements that should have been emphasized weren't, ie. this power is completely fucking ridiculous so roll with that instead of playing the origin story straight. The only portions that felt fresh and thematically true?
If I'm Anthony Mackie, I'm bitching out my agent. Lower credit billing and you get your ass kicked by some guy who's been training for a week. C-list Avenger adjace wanna-be.
Sole saving grace? Michael Douglas.
Glad I got the tickets for free.
The train fight and trying not to get squashed in the nightclub.
If I'm Anthony Mackie, I'm bitching out my agent. Lower credit billing and you get your ass kicked by some guy who's been training for a week. C-list Avenger adjace wanna-be.
Sole saving grace? Michael Douglas.
Glad I got the tickets for free.
Probably because people actually liked the film.
Cuz it's great.
If there were a few things I would adjust.
1. Show Cross test out the suit once the particles are proven to work. That way, the audience can see he snapped.
2. After the Hank and Hope breakthrough, have them hug and then Scott joins in and then cracking the tea joke, him just ruining the moment felt off.
3. At least have Janet speak to Hank and show at least a flashback with Hank, Jan and Hope before the missile mission.
4. And yeah, this is gonna be biased as fuck but I say have Hope actually put on the suit and trying it out during the mid credits stinger.
5. I know this results in changing the ending but would have been amusing if the end credits stinger mirrored that to Iron Man with Cap and Falcon recruiting Scott to the Avengers.
1. Show Cross test out the suit once the particles are proven to work. That way, the audience can see he snapped.
2. After the Hank and Hope breakthrough, have them hug and then Scott joins in and then cracking the tea joke, him just ruining the moment felt off.
3. At least have Janet speak to Hank and show at least a flashback with Hank, Jan and Hope before the missile mission.
4. And yeah, this is gonna be biased as fuck but I say have Hope actually put on the suit and trying it out during the mid credits stinger.
5. I know this results in changing the ending but would have been amusing if the end credits stinger mirrored that to Iron Man with Cap and Falcon recruiting Scott to the Avengers.
Lone_Prodigy
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Were you just waiting for someone else to dislike it before piling on?
Opinions are fine, but try not to frame it in such an antagonizing way.
I do hope they cast Catherine Zeta-Jones as Janet.
Pai Pai Master
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You crazy, the entire ending fight sequence was great from the chopper to the briefcase to the family's backyard (that ping pong moment was the best case of visual comedy so far in the MCU) to Cassie's Bedroom, and then the Microverse bit afterward. It was all sublime.
Followed up with the dinner scene (GREAT scene), the hilarious ending and the two stingers, it might be the best final act in a Marvel movie.
Absolutely not low tier.
Because it was fun
My theater wasn't very packed, but the people who sat close to me were definitely laughing as was I. Humor and its use are very subjective.
For example, to me Age Of Ultron had too many jokes, too many loud laughs.
Ant-Man was like it was tailored to my tastes, maybe needed a few more jokes.
I went to see it last night.
- I felt like Luis and the other guys were borderline Michael Bay style comic relief characters. That's not a good thing, it's quite terrible in fact... but I warmed to them by the end. I liked "back it up" and the final story.
- Hope was a moody misery guts. Moody, miserly, pensive pouting ruins large parts of Age of Ultron and I worried the same was going to happen here, but thankfully she lightens up a little.
- the pace isn't great in the first half, my girlfriend was getting restless pretty much right up until they started training Scott properly.
- the initial instances of him wearing the suit and flying with Anthony are too noisy. Hank talks too much, Scott talks too much. I don't need a running commentary on how crazy and scary everything is - I've got eyes.
- Falcon is lame
- Anthony was dead the moment he was given a name and it was hilariously obvious. Again it was a little too in-the-face.
"drop me off here Anthony! pick me back up Anthony! your name is Anthony! I want the audience to think of you as people Anthony!"
Once it was established Scott, Hank and Hope could communicate to the ants through the earpiece they really didn't have to talk out loud so much the way that they did. I think an audio edit would significantly improve the first half of the movie.
- the final third is excellent. Like truly balls to the wall, wacky, awesome, excellence. One part honey I shrunk the kids, two parts just going crazy with the resizing powers, I loved it. The quantum realm was trippy, I wish they'd spent more time there. And I wouldn't have minded the briefcase fight lasting a lot longer due to the music
It doesn't have the heart of Guardians, but it's got the right mood and its funny in places. Overall fun and well worth a watch. It's better than Thor 2, Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron IMO. Age of Ultron did the character interaction stuff a little better, but non-sensical Tony Stark and moodyness abounds drags it right down for me. For its early flaws, this was at least very fun.
I need to see it again in 3D.
- I felt like Luis and the other guys were borderline Michael Bay style comic relief characters. That's not a good thing, it's quite terrible in fact... but I warmed to them by the end. I liked "back it up" and the final story.
- Hope was a moody misery guts. Moody, miserly, pensive pouting ruins large parts of Age of Ultron and I worried the same was going to happen here, but thankfully she lightens up a little.
- the pace isn't great in the first half, my girlfriend was getting restless pretty much right up until they started training Scott properly.
- the initial instances of him wearing the suit and flying with Anthony are too noisy. Hank talks too much, Scott talks too much. I don't need a running commentary on how crazy and scary everything is - I've got eyes.
- Falcon is lame
- Anthony was dead the moment he was given a name and it was hilariously obvious. Again it was a little too in-the-face.
"drop me off here Anthony! pick me back up Anthony! your name is Anthony! I want the audience to think of you as people Anthony!"
Once it was established Scott, Hank and Hope could communicate to the ants through the earpiece they really didn't have to talk out loud so much the way that they did. I think an audio edit would significantly improve the first half of the movie.
- the final third is excellent. Like truly balls to the wall, wacky, awesome, excellence. One part honey I shrunk the kids, two parts just going crazy with the resizing powers, I loved it. The quantum realm was trippy, I wish they'd spent more time there. And I wouldn't have minded the briefcase fight lasting a lot longer due to the music
It doesn't have the heart of Guardians, but it's got the right mood and its funny in places. Overall fun and well worth a watch. It's better than Thor 2, Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron IMO. Age of Ultron did the character interaction stuff a little better, but non-sensical Tony Stark and moodyness abounds drags it right down for me. For its early flaws, this was at least very fun.
I need to see it again in 3D.
He was a good boy.
Red Arremer
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I liked it. Generally a pretty good movie, although I felt that it was a little all over the place, and the pacing was a little wonky. Despite that, I think it was in the upper echelon of Marvel films.
Also the ants were ridiculously cute.
Also the ants were ridiculously cute.
Umberto gonzalez of heroic Hollywood was offended by michael Peñas performance in antman. He basically says it was a 1950s stereotype that only white people think was good.
http://heroichollywood.com/home-1/2...t-minstrel-show-michael-penas-luis-in-ant-man
http://heroichollywood.com/home-1/2...t-minstrel-show-michael-penas-luis-in-ant-man
But I think that sounds different from a One Shot which would likely be included on a DVD/Blu-ray. If it was recut and edited to stand on it's own, it could be put into the Ant-man DVD as an awesome bonus.
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He's a moron and is being way oversensitive about it. Yes, I agree that it was a tad dry in terms of it's humor, but I wasn't offended by it at all.
Glass Rebel
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If he found Luis offensive he found him offensive but
Like, did he completely miss the point of those scenes?
Maybe they just through that line in there to explain why Pym hasn't been talked about at SHIELD or in the MCU until the present day. If he's not allowed back with SHIELD, it establishes his role as and outsider in the passing decades and a recluse that even employees of his own company barely recognize him.
I'm not latino so I can't say whether he should or shouldn't be offended but Luis seemed more of a scatterbrain than Mexican stereotype. He's an ex-con but didn't come across as a gangbanger at all. Luis is even cultured in fine wine and modern art!
I think I laughed when that scene happened
Pai Pai Master
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Luis is definitely a stereotype in some ways but I don't see him as a harmful character, no more than any of the other crooks in the movie. He's actually a good guy (he saved that guy he punched out at the end) and as mentioned, isn't actually an idiot or anything and is actually cultured.
Reading that Gonzalez thing I snorted out loud at "For the record, Marvel is one of the most progressive studios out there".
It did jump out at me when that Bloc dude made a gypsy joke. I forget what it was but it was pretty incongruent. Marvel probably sells more tickets to Europeans that hate gypsies than it does to Roma though so.
Because how the heck did he hit a bug with a bullet! Why did he think shooting bullets at a swarm of insects was going to do antything at all!
Yeah that was so sweet.
It did jump out at me when that Bloc dude made a gypsy joke. I forget what it was but it was pretty incongruent. Marvel probably sells more tickets to Europeans that hate gypsies than it does to Roma though so.
Because how the heck did he hit a bug with a bullet! Why did he think shooting bullets at a swarm of insects was going to do antything at all!
Yeah that was so sweet.
I didn't think he came across as a gangbanger either. Cholo, sure. Ex-criminal, yeah, but while I was worried that his character would just be a 2 dimensional stereotype from the commercials, I didn't feel that way watching the film.
I could see why some people would be bothered considering Luis may be the only MCU character who is obviously supposed to have a Mexican heritage, so he therefore becomes a high profile Latino character and his representation become a lot more important (imagine if T.I. was the only black supporting character who wasn't a SHIELD agent, random civilian, or space alien, and there was no black heroes like Falcon, Nick Fury, or War Machine already present).
Luis didn't bother me since he has other "unstereotypical" tastes and he isn't just some scheming miscreant. Even his comment asking Scott if they are the good guys shows how even though Scott and his friends are criminals, they aren't bad people, they just don't know any other way. He even went to save the guy he knocked out.
It could also be because I thought Luis was funny, and similar to characters like Darcy in Thor or Trevor Slattery in IM3, their characters can be very polarizing if you didn't think they were funny, and if you throw potential issues of race and stereotypes into the mix, I could see why people would be offended.
Anythony got fucked up man. Took a bullet for Scott! Literally like his entire body did.
Colonel Nasty
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I'm Hispanic, and while Luis is a stereotype I know a few guys like Luis and that made it funnier. I don't think they played him dumb either. He clearly had some culture to him.
kunonabi
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I saw the film with a mostly Mexican audience and they all loved him. He's really not unlike most Mexicans I know really. Of course, this was the same kind audience that said "you damn right" and cheered at the "Mexicans cooking Italian food" joke from Rocky Balboa so maybe they're just cursed with a sense of humor that prevents them from being properly offended like the internet wants them to be.
Amazing enough my reply was cross you motherfucker ...... Then I realised it was over a ant
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