Coulomb_Barrier
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Yeah, that's what I think.
I think TLOU release date will be one of Sony's minor highlights at e3, as in the release date will follow shortly after the event. Or something.
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April 2014 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes May 12th
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Yeah, that's what I think.
I think TLOU release date will be one of Sony's minor highlights at e3, as in the release date will follow shortly after the event. Or something.
As always, thanks.
SuperSonic1305
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GTA5 is also rumoured for June
Zeuanimals
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How are June sales normally like? I can't imagine it being too high since Summer has the biggest droughts (gaming and otherwise).
I guess a good E3 could get people hyped up enough to buy systems just on the basis of things to come. I mean, it got plenty to buy the PS4, and Sony's E3 didn't even show many "things to come".
I guess a good E3 could get people hyped up enough to buy systems just on the basis of things to come. I mean, it got plenty to buy the PS4, and Sony's E3 didn't even show many "things to come".
If true a thlous and a gtav5 bundle could offset a rise in xbox and let them win that month.
Prototype Viktor
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Aquamarine
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Exactly two hours until PR.
Yes. This is the reason why keeping it close or at parity with Sony in the US is actually a disasterous result for them. A lead in the US is critical to their global strategy.
Coulomb_Barrier
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No, not for any product with the budget of the Xbone ($1 billion investment in games etc).
Sales at the current rate are far from acceptable with the investment they have made. It is not even sustainable for very much longer before serious questions start getting asked at board level.
Well, NPD is the NA only. In the US the 360 still has a huge lead on the PS3, so those numbers actually just say that market share will stay PS4>XB1.
So are you confirming that they are bad? JK
Aquamarine
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But the whole point of NPD threads is the frenzy / anticipation!
People think TLOU will be enough to overcome a month where a 100$ XB1 pricedrop goes into effect?
Because I think the XB1 pricedrop sales spike is going to be a one-time thing, but it'll probably be pretty substantial.
I could easily see it fall back to "regular" numbers a month later after all the fence-sitters bought their cheaper SKU.
Because I think the XB1 pricedrop sales spike is going to be a one-time thing, but it'll probably be pretty substantial.
I could easily see it fall back to "regular" numbers a month later after all the fence-sitters bought their cheaper SKU.
serversurfer
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Right. Without Kinect, XBone is the same price as PS4, but it's still considerably weaker. Without Kinect, you lose voice commands and the ability to control your TV; all of the unique selling points are gone now.
That means MS are tasked with persuading customers to pay the same price for substantially reduced performance in 99% of the games they play, but the only carrot they have left at this point is their own 1st-party offerings.
Once the current batch of 3rd-party exclusives come out, that'll be it for XBone. Apart from first party, while Gold set the bar last generation, MS are clearly trying to catch up to Sony in terms of value offered, and even then Gold still costs 20% more. What else do they have to offer? Meanwhile Sony have The Show and the superior, expanded version of Watch Dogs this month, and will likely kick off June with a big Morpheus debut and Destiny beta at E3. Plus Uncharted 4, etc.
Removing Kinect makes XBone less unattractive, but it doesn't make it attractive. When Spencer says, "XBox is all about games, games, games now," what he's really saying is, "The only thing we have left to offer you is your own fond memories of games created by developers who no longer work for us. :'("
We're in the countdown phase right now. Stay tuned, lol.
Lol it's funny to know they are out there somewhere trying to spin the results as I post this.Meanwhile at Major Nelson's table.
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Npd numbers auger poorly for the future of Sony in handhelds, MS in consoles, and Nintendo in both.
It is way more fun when everyone is making money and the only thing the numbers are good for are bragging rights.
Miles Quaritch
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The titanfall deal was a great deal, but it was not widely available everywhere.
A systematic 100$ drop is going to have a way larger effect, partly also because a big part of May sales will shift towards June.
No-one in their right mind is getting a X1 when it's advertised to be 100$ cheaper in a few weeks.
DarthWalden
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Unless they for whatever reason want a kinect, then in that case it's the same price.
Lol, that completely flew over my head until you explained.
But these are NPD numbers and the ps3 did tank in the US. It's down by like 20 million units here isn't it?
So those numbers are actually in line with how it all turned out. Just like if we had early WW numbers I'm guessing they are also in line with how the 3 ended selling WW.
SwiftDeath
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The TF bundle was offered and available everywhere it mattered
BUT a $100 cheaper SKU will be more effective as some consumers would view TF as being worthless if they don't value FPS online-only games. Same with Kinect, if they don't want it why would they put any value to it?
I think MS has a strong chance of winning June with this strategy
BUT a $100 cheaper SKU will be more effective as some consumers would view TF as being worthless if they don't value FPS online-only games. Same with Kinect, if they don't want it why would they put any value to it?
I think MS has a strong chance of winning June with this strategy
If you're fence sitting and paid attention the last few, why not continue and see how it shakes out?
Heck the titanfall bundle was/is still a better deal than the new SKU, which actually is a little higher than you'd expect without kinect. Jumping on the bundle made more sense.
Not sure if TLOU will move systems, but it will sell gangbuster to all the 360 convert's and to those waiting for the next gen version. There's a lot of them.
One month out of 6-7 possible years doesn't sound like the biggest deal, especially when the outcome will help them move consoles down the road.
Are there really that many 360 converts though? I think majority are still the ps3 owners who upgraded because they were dissatisfied. 360 people haven't gone next gen yet.
I see what you did there.
Jimmyfenix
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I'm not sure I believe MS will win June, but I agree the $399 standard price tag will be more effective than the retailer discounts on the TF bundles.
I think a lot people didn't see the value in Kinect or TF so a $399 barebones console will be more attractive to them. Also, as the new console sales are transitioning from the enthusiast crowd towards drive-by shoppers, the standard $399 tag will help a lot in that regard.
DarthWalden
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MS would have been smart to have made the titanfall sku without kinect for 400$. I think for the most part the people that buy a console for a game like titanfall and the people that have interest in a device like kinect are not the same.
Bah, they moved it too far into the night for me... I'm off...
Correct but the "price" drop of $50 was not available everywhere. GameStop for example never dropped it to $450 like amazon, etc.
You can make fun of GameStop all day long, but they make up a very very large chunk of game and system sales.
Zeuanimals
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The discounted TF bundles weren't heavily advertised and the $100 cheaper SKU most likely will be. MS should hire their own version of Kevin Butler to advertise their changes and have him be likable and intentionally funny. Also, fire Yusuf Mehdi or keep him from the public, he's unlikable and unintentionally funny.
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Elder Scrolls Online.
As far as exclusives, nothing.
Sorry no Elder Scrolls Online for 6 months. Been delayed
BananaSprinkles
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I thought ESO was delayed (and Ubisoft Montpellier is releasing Valiant Hearts: The Great War)
Those are the only games I've heard about.
Hades Hotgun
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I completely agree with your reasoning, except I think MS still loses in June.
At E3, Sony may announce some kind of enticing new firmware feature or other immediate improvement to the PS4, but even if they don't, and instead hold their cards to see how June plays out, I think they will still win the NPD on the back of greater demand despite price parity.
Metalingus5150
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Dat Elder Scrolls Online delay tho.
And ESO is delayed. So not much. The price cut isnt going to be enough.
ricardokenshin
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Officerrob
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Not exactly a big loss...