Woopah
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I think early next year would be best, but they can probably stretch it to holiday 2024 if really neccessary.
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Circana (NPD) April 2023: #1 Jedi Survivor 4 #2 Dead Island 2 #7 PGA Tour #8 Battle Netowrk; NSW #1 Units, PS5 #1 Revenue
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If I were nintendo, I would announce in march the Switch 2 or whatever along with a small portable-only switch, like a switch pocket and a micro-console switch as I think that would leave the previous holiday's buyers happy that their newly bought console isn't being completely phased out and as a low cost way to keep up general supply, with the switch redesigns hitting in June and the switch 2 in September,
Nothing1234
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Where's redfall?
DeepEnigma
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zomboden
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Came out in May. Not that it matters. I doubt it even places in the top 20 since most people just played it on Game Pass.
Baki
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Zelda OLED + PS5 down in sales from a record March.
Nothing1234
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We might be in a situation where Xbox never leaves #3 in units in the US for the foreseeable future.
Luigi Mario
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Unprecedented, really.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Wonder how much more subscription growth can actually drop. Also I wonder what the slowdown rate looks like per platform.
Thirty7ven
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PlayStation has mostly transitioned people to Extra, which adds revenue but I imagine that unless they do day 1 they won’t pull off much growth.
The fact remains that if you subscribe to a sub like GP you have a choice to make. Wait for games to come on the service, and if there are enough people doing that software sales tank, or you don’t wait for your Hogwarts or Jedi Survivor, FIFA, etc and you might find yourself spending more money per year than you did before. Don’t forget people who spend money on MTX on the regular. People aren’t stupid, there’s the promise then there’s reality.
Alan Wake
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This is important to remember. If Spencer is considered a "failure", meaning he didn't meet the targets they set year after year, someone else might come in with a totally different mindset. Someone who is not gamer centered, who does not care about the brand and so on. We just don't know. Having said that, Spencer needs to deliver games now or else. The showcase in June would be a good start.
demigod
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Didn’t you hear? Ms held back series x consoles for starfield bundle launch.
TheGodfather07
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Very impressed with switch. It reminds me of PS2 doing big numbers so late on. Xbox is a joke as usual.
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Mozza
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No it's both a handheld and a home console, it's a hybrid device and the reason why Nintendo no longer makes a regular home and handheld consoles. My Switch is pretty much docked 95% of the time.It’s not a console, rather a handheld that has a dock station.
The reason you had to make your initial point however baffles me, but is not a surprise.
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Mozza
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All from core console business experts, putting their own personal wants and needs and applying them to the wider mass market, the Switch can still sell up to 17 million units a year, which is insane considering how long it's been on the market. And as yet without a significant price reduction.
Nothing1234
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Zelda OLED was a big help.Nintendo still the king, and people were claiming that Sony would take every month this year in units
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It fell into the red
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Ftfy
Mozza
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Always such balanced rational people.Hogwarts Legacy
SuperSaiyanWithDreads
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Forspokenhttps://www.installbaseforum.com/fo...k-nsw-1-units-ps5-1-revenue.1628/#post-159750
State of the market
Consumer spending on video game content, hardware and accessories reached $4.1 billion, a 5% drop when compared to a year ago. A 6% decline in April spending on video game content offset 7% growth in hardware.
Year-to-date consumer spending on video game content, hardware and accessories fell 2% when compared to the same period in 2022, to $17.7 billion.
Hardware
Video game hardware spending grew 7% when compared to YA, to $367M. This is the highest video game hardware spend for an April month since the $420M reached in April 2020. Double-digit percentage growth in both PS5 and Switch dollar sales offset declines on other platforms.
PlayStation 5 was the best-selling hardware platform in dollar sales during April, while Switch led the market in units sold. PlayStation 5 leads the 2023 hardware market year-to-date across both units and dollars.
Software
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Sensor Tower reports the top 10 games by U.S. consumer spending in April as: Candy Crush Saga, Roblox, Royal Match, Coin Master, Gardenscapes, Evony, Township, Jackpot Party, Homescapes, and Bingo Blitz.
“Pokémon Go fell out of the top ten for the first time since April of last year,” said Dennis Yeh of Sensor Tower. “Spend trends were relatively stable in April with no major shifts in subgenre spend from March.”
Accessories
Accessories spending during April was flat when compared to a year ago, at $158 million. The PlayStation 5 Dual Sense Edge Wireless Controller Black was the best-selling accessory in dollar sales for both April and 2023 year-to-date.
Software charts
Year To Date
Nintendo / PlayStation / Xbox charts are no longer being reported.
Rankings
Units: NSW > PS5 > XBS
Revenue: PS5 > NSW > XBS
YTD Units: PS5 > NSW > XBS
YTD Revenue: PS5 > NSW > XBS
Thanks Mat Piscatella!
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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What is there to really say? It was only available through PS Direct until recently. I'm guessing he's of the mind it being available through other retailers will increase sales, which should be a given.
When Bloomberg Takahashi wrong that BS article he conveniently ignored the fact PSVR2 was only available for purchase through PS Direct. Dude is such a hack.
GigaBowser
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Can't believe how much better SWOLED screen makes TOTK look
crud processor still but that is the best portables screen evers
Setsuna Mudou
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No it's not, it's definitely a handheld that you connect to a tv. Same way the steam deck is the same, and all other handelds on the market for that matter. Being able to display handheld content on a tv does not a console make, you're still limited by the constraints of what a handheld allows (i.e. smaller form factor, limited heat dissipation, limited power, etc).
It's also got advantages, it's cheaper, has a dedicated screen and it's seen as an individual item. Meaning you don't use it like a regular console where you plug to the living room and anyone creates an account to use it. Instead you get one for mommy, one for daddy and 2 more for little Timmy and Annie.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Switch is a handheld with TV out they did this many years ago my friends I must go
Woopah
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Switch Lite definitely a handheld while the other two models are designer specifically to be handhelds (the detachable controllers, the dock it comes with etc.)
Mozza
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You are wrong, the lite exists as a pure handheld device, while the regular and OLED models are hybrid consoles, and therefore both home and handheld consoles, which is why they both come with docking stations.
Mozza
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Will you just stay out of this, and get on with playing Tears of the kingdom, In handheld mode of course.
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Setsuna Mudou
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I fundamentally disagree with that split, because at the core they are the same product, play the same games and have the same limitations. There's a reason we don't track switch lite vs the other models, they are all the same handheld.
Do we consider the 3ds, 3ds xl, new 3ds, 2ds, etc, to be different devices?
If you can take your console and play it stand alone in your hands without connecting it to a tv and external power supply, that's a handheld
The Steam Deck is not a "hybrid" either, just because it has a dock accessory you can connect to a bigger screen.
edit: since we're arguing definitions, thought this would be pertinent
"Handheld Game Console Product means any handheld portable electronic device designed for and primarily used for playing video games that has its own screen, speakers and controls in one unit, including the PlayStation Vita (“PS Vita”) and the PlayStation Portable (“PSP”)."
Handheld Game Console Product Definition | Law Insider
Sample Contracts and Business Agreements
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Quick question which feature of a console is the switch missing? Handhelds can't support
Way to prove yourself, controls in the unit, switch doesn't feature those they're external way to go. Switch is better than a traditional TV tethered dinosaurs console, it has more versatility not less, deal with itI fundamentally disagree with that split, because at the core they are the same product, play the same games and have the same limitations. There's a reason we don't track switch lite vs the other models, they are all the same handheld.
Do we consider the 3ds, 3ds xl, new 3ds, 2ds, etc, to be different devices?
If you can take your console and play it stand alone in your hands without connecting it to a tv and external power supply, that's a handheld
The Steam Deck is not a "hybrid" either, just because it has a dock accessory you can connect to a bigger screen.
edit: since we're arguing definitions, thought this would be pertinent
"Handheld Game Console Product means any handheld portable electronic device designed for and primarily used for playing video games that has its own screen, speakers and controls in one unit, including the PlayStation Vita (“PS Vita”) and the PlayStation Portable (“PSP”)."
Handheld Game Console Product Definition | Law Insider
Sample Contracts and Business Agreements
Setsuna Mudou
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Calm down warrior, I made no value judgement my guy lol. I never used the words better or worse, you might be reading too much into it, it's coming off as quite defensive.
I literally posted the definition of a handheld, a console does not have it's own dedicated screen and battery to play by itself. Just re-read it, this time without assuming i'm trying to bash your preferred piece of plastic ok? I own it as well and I love handhelds for that matter.
Your the warrior , your creating an argument that shouldn't exist because of your rampant fanboyism
Setsuna Mudou
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you're the one fighting proved yourself wrong, you're a raging sony fanboy given your post and reaction history, very big on calling others fanboys look in the mirror pal
what argument did I create? what fanboyism?
you came in a bit hot and with an axe to grind, so you might be looking for a different target, not me lol
as I said, i own and love many handhelds, but there is a distinction between home consoles and handhelds, no value judgement here