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Assassin's Creed Unity Leaker calls out to Neogaf/provides clarification on graphics
- Thread starter Crossing Eden
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LMAO at that draw distance people pop into existence a few feet away, what a piece of trash engine Ubi managed to make.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
While i haven't had a chance to play Unity at all yet - obviously - to be fair just about every single complaint you've brought up has been talked about by Ubi in the past 6 months or so as being updated, revamped or completely wiped clean and changed/updated. So there's that.
ambientric
Banned
Given a choice between scale or detail, I would choose scale every time. In saying that, the parity bullshit and early "footage" vs final product leaves a bad taste, which I think the majority are responding too with righteous indignation. Also, the majority upset, would be fans of the series like myself who will still be picking the game up on release. No one likes being misled.
Will never understand those who act as a sycophant apologist for such practises, the last thing a multinational corporate requires is an Internet white knight.
Will never understand those who act as a sycophant apologist for such practises, the last thing a multinational corporate requires is an Internet white knight.
Agreed. What really bothered me was the pedantic way they phrased those statements about FPS and RES as if they were the voice of the industry and spoke for all development houses.
NullPointer
Member
They've sure as hell said all the right things, including changes to every aspect of the game. There are no counters in Unity. The parkour and stealth systems have been remade. The mission structure is supposed to much more free form as well.
We'll see.
The amount of characters on screen is very impressive. Theres literally hundreds of people in that crowd. Although fair bit of pop in.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I love the AC series (excluding Revelations), but I have lost all faith in Ubisoft's ability/willingness to make meaningful changes anymore. I mean the combat has been broken since AC1 and here we are, 6 games later, and it's still broken. They should just give up at this stage and steal Batman's freeflow combat.
I think AC4's ship gameplay is the only significant addition to the series since the first, everything else is just a refinement.
LapinAgile
Member
Yeah basically, i found the set-ups to the kill really satisfying in the first couple games and they really lost that in the latter few. This seems like a return to form, but that remains to be seen. Their promise of an open "blackbox" design sounds really cool if it works as advertised. After Black Flag I am more optimistic on the issue.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Nothing can be said to defend the pop in. Graphics look great though.
matrixman92
Member
I cant wait to give Ubisoft 120 dollars on November 11th by buying Unity and Rogue, then I will have fun playing video games that I enjoy.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Yeah, no other major publisher experiments with smaller projects or makes big games in interesting historical settings.
Are you for real?
BronsonLee
Member
Eh...Ubi -really- does experimental projects quite a bit though. Like an order of magnitude greater than most
Then I'll buy it, I liked Black Flag.
Holy shit at that viewpoint. So gorgeous.
It's quite possible to enjoy a game and still be upset about the business practices of the publisher. Rampant DLC profiteering doesn't make me particularly happy, but I'm not giving up gaming because of it.
That's the best laugh I've had all day. Thanks! You really want to defend the honor of a community known for racist, sexist, and homophobic spew online as well as rampant piracy? Not to mention a predictable predilection for griefing and hacking for competitive advantage?
GAF is actually a relatively decent place but only because the mods don't put up with a lot of crap.
TheVampire
Banned
Hopefully it will look amazing on PC all cleaned up
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Hope that Jimpoint0 will photo mode mod for pc.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
My main question is why shots straight off the PS4 look like compressed web video. Posting links to more web videos doesn't actually clarify anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glKP120f3Jc
Looks promising. I might cave and buy a second 970 in a couple weeks (hope Unity is bundled with it) for 2560x1440.
OriginalThinking
Member
God I hate GAF elitism.
See this is the stuff that pisses me off about this company. This game is supposed to be a next-gen/current-gen ONLY game ffs so how the fuck can a cross-gen open world game like MGSV with seamless transition from cutscene to gameplay and a freakin day and night cycle, dynamic weather etc. run in 60FPS while this fucking game can't do it? Fucking lazy developers, seriously... and you really wonder why people complain about this game?
There are people like Kojima Productions who want to drive the gaming industry forward and there are people like Ubisoft who only care about the money. I wonder when this will stop and we finally can move on.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Because it's cross gen. Cross gen games are simply not as taxing as next gen only games. Infamous SS also didn't have day/night cycles. Sacrifices have to be made somewhere. Also this game has day and night weather and seamless transitions from gameplay to cutscenes. There's nothing lazy about this game's development. Certainly not when it comes to the animation. From the crowds to the visuals to the character animations to the cloth physics and making sure that the game doesn't run at 20fps on ps4, they worked their asses off, and still are working on it for the day 1 patch.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Sunset Overdrive is a good game but there was really no need for this driveby post I mean really?
StreetsAhead
Member
One person does not a forum make.
This has nothing to do with it being cross-gen. The reason why MGSV is cross-gen is because of Konami, they don't have many big franchise left so of course they had to make it cross-gen.
Yes there is plenty of stuff in Unity which screams lazy development. Resolution, blurriness, pop-in, framerate etc.
I give you that Arno's animations when he climbs are very nice but if that is all a company of 10 (!) studios working on the game can come up with then sorry but again that screams "lazyness" to me especially how big this freakin company is.
I'm typing this on my phone so it might take a few mins.
Ouch.
I have no idea how he got screens that shitty out of Share even if they are compressed. I've taken a ton and they've never looked like that. It's also pretty sad that's he's begging people to be impressed when he can provide better evidence of it actually being impressive.
Well yes i chose MGSV for that example because believe it or not but Kojima and his team are one of the only companies who try to change something. Otherwise show me another cross-gen open world game that runs in 60FPS.
You can't even find many linear games that run at that framerate. So yeah it's just the truth.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
You're asking why a cross gen game has a day/night cycle while a next gen only game that looks better and is doing different things doesn't. Resolution isn't something that makes a dev lazy, neither is pop in, MGSV has pop in, that doesn't make Konami lazy. And you can see the sacrifices that Kojipro had to make to get MGSV to run at 60fps, even though it looks good. Now when it comes to the development of Unity:Rewriting 6 million lines of code, creating 14K animations, completely redoing the AI, changing the lighting and rendering system, building monuments like Notre Dame at 1:1 scale, etc does not make a company lazy in anyway shape or form, if this was AC 4.5 then maybe you'd be able to call it lazy. But considering that it's not that's quite a ridiculous claim to make.
I do believe the game will look better on screen/in-motion than the pics we've gotten but the game does certainly suffer from a variety of things that its getting criticized for. The bullshots, promo videos not panning out in the final build is sufficient enough to cause despair in Gaf - because well, it's usually false misrepresentation of the game's visuals - some games suffer this more than others - heavy offenders/light offenders etc.......the 900p parity debacle doesn't help at all and, well, 900p vs. native 1080p - easy choice when it comes to clean IQ.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
It's cool, there's just been so many driveby posts already and it always happens in Ubi threads. It's grating at this point.I've been drinking. Sry
Relevance to this discussion, none.
boredandlazy
Member
Well your integrity is relevant to the discussion, and if this puts that into question then...
I'm not saying I'm agreeing with people questioning it at all since I haven't looked into it. I'm just pointing out how it could be relevant.
You don't have that many cross-gen open-world games, and MGS5 is not even out yet, so your truth is still in development and can be downgraded too.
Also calling developers "lazy" is one of the unrelevant (and easiest) comment you can do.
I don't think it's as much a matter of integrity as it's a matter of irony and consistency. The basic premise of the thread is to "cut" the negativity surrounding the visuals of AC: Unity and give the game a fair shake in a level-headed discussion. It's ironic that he did not do such thing for a game like Infamous Second Son - blatantly at that. It says more about character I guess.
First: Unity does NOT look better than MGSV.
Second: Oh yeah of course complain about pop-in from an unfinished product sure why not. Kojima even stated he didn't want to show it because it was still in early stage but he did it for the fans.
Third: Pop-in was in the Afghanistan demo but i haven't seen anything in the new African jungle demo so yeah they probably fixed it already.
Come on now, of course when they make a new Asscreed game they do all that stuff but they never try to challenge them with doing stuff differently like giving the people jobs etc.
They never try to push them selfs with new stuff and with new i mean really new things and not just a different hero and era. It's the same dilemma with Call of Duty. Both of these big franchises have that problem right now.
Ofc that's just my opinion.
OriginalThinking
Member
True. Though I wasn't intentionally referring to every single person on the forum.
GAF has more than its fair share of gaming elitists, certainly more than I encounter from the people I know who enjoy the hobby in the flesh.
Be that aliasing, frame rate, master race, etc.
I've been banned for generalizing before, and perhaps I'm making the same mistake as the poster I quoted, but I genuinely believe that elitism is a real issue in this forum.
Anyway, I'm off topic now so I digress.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I have a good amount of integrity, AC is one of my favorite IPs and I do usually enjoy Ubi's output, however I don't see how comments on an n4g article from months upon months ago has any relevance here besides "Hey, you can't defend this because you did it too gai!" Basically it was an attempt to derail the thread even further at my expense, and it worked just like Marcel posting a screenshot of a pm I sent him or people once again accusing me of working for Ubisoft. Now then can the thread gets back on track instead of examining my every move or questioning my motives?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Well technically speaking ACU hasn't gone gold yet so it's not finished. And regarding the bolded, that's simply not true. And there's a bunch of reasons why it's not true. That i've stated over and over. Some of which I already listed.
Disks are being printed. It's gold, just missing a probably large day 1 patch.