Amazing that the same people who seem to care so little for the movie show up in every thread to try and prove how they are right for hating the movie.
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Batman v Superman Extended Edition trailer + details
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bob_arctor
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BvS provides more simmering tension for a (GAF) Civil War than Cap vs Shellhead.
Also, Larry Fong was entirely right.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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"You could call it high-brow comics, but to me, that comic book was just pretty sexy! I had a buddy who tried getting me into normal comic books, but I was all like, No one is having sex or killing each other. This isnt really doing it for me. I was a little broken, that way. So when Watchmen came along, I was, This is more my scene.You could call it high-brow comics, but to me, that comic book was just pretty sexy! I had a buddy who tried getting me into normal comic books, but I was all like, No one is having sex or killing each other. This isnt really doing it for me. I was a little broken, that way. So when Watchmen came along, I was, This is more my scene."
-Zack Snyder
A teenage boy likes violence and tits? Stop the presses!
Lol. Quite right. Only thing that aggrevates GAF more is petty console wars.
Bruce Wayne at the end. In fact thats one of the major themes of the film. batman is brought from the brink with new hope in his mission.
On 300:
After a day of interviews, the fast-talking 41 year old is well aware of what people have been saying. Its kind of fun for me, he says unexpectedly. Im a genre filmmaker so for someone to call me a 'fascist filmmaker' is like the best compliment in some ways. He checks himself. Compliment is the wrong word. What he actually meant was, "its pretty awesome people are taking the film so seriously.
If I was Paul Verhoeven, and I had made this movie, I probably would have won the fricking festival with it, he laughs. Because everyone would be like, Oh my God, its genius.'
Discotheque
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Wut he's not comparing himself to verhoeven. In fact that quote sadly makes him sound a bit jealous of verhoevens success at melding low brow violence and action with social commentary
Whatever. I don't like Snyder movies that much but I do acknowledge he's got his strengths and does stick to his vision all the time. Even if it's something a lot of people dislike.
Fwiw I actually thought batman v superman was pretty similar to what we would get if verhoeven made a DC comics movie lol. Not as good as the idea of course but I came out of the theater thinking that.
He's saying people would give him the benefit of the doubt that he's doing more than just violence. But since he's Zack Snyder, he's an objectivist hack fraud.
ArtHands
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Its sad that he's thinking like a teenage boy.
As a teenage boy!
And yet that's his argument to champion the movie still when in his mid-40s?
Dash_Riprock
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He's actually 50.
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No I'm pretty sure that was just him musing on how he got into comic books and specifically watchmen in the first place.
How could, upon the release of 300, there already be community-wide, set-in-stone preconceived notions of Snyder being an objectivist hack fraud that we must never give the benefit of the doubt to? It was only his second movie! If he wanted to demonstrate a Verhoeven-esque tendency to blend ultra violence with social subtext (a blend, imo, I find extremely overhyped in Verhoeven films anyway) then that would've been the time to do it.
I mean when he did that interview.
His reverence for the material, exemplified by this interview, but also by his dismissal of other now-popular characters like Captain America, is solely for the dumb edgy shit. It's what has defined so much of his work. I've defended his approach before but it's only been made more clear that Zack Snyder is a fucking crazy person who hasn't aged passed his perspective as a teenager.
Sounds to me like you misinterpreted. He didn't dismiss Cap. He was actually judging WB for their incompetence with their own properties. Marvel was kicking ass with lesser known characters and WB had thumbs up their asses.
http://www.ew.com/article/2008/07/17/watchmen-chat-director-zack-snyder/2
He always comes off like he's sneering at it. Constantly. He ended up doing the same with Ant-Man. He doesn't celebrate other directors for being successful, he just crosses his arms and rolls his eyes. And the funny thing is he is in no position to feel high and mighty about it considering the severely negative reaction his movies evoke.
Not to mention this lovely quote...
The guy is a lunatic. Him wanting to direct a Fountainhead movie explains just about everything...
yanipheonu
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You know all these extra scenes for this all ready long, subplot filled movie made me realize, why did it have to be so complicated?
Why not just have a simple story where you establish Superman, establish batman and they fight, simple. We didn't need all this other stuff, the rampant hints at future movies, the lex stuff, the dream sequences. Just have Batman and Superman fight, it doesn't need to be like this.
Suppose this is all the vestiges of the fact it was two movies before. Really curious to see all about the actual development of this, seems like a mess.
Why not just have a simple story where you establish Superman, establish batman and they fight, simple. We didn't need all this other stuff, the rampant hints at future movies, the lex stuff, the dream sequences. Just have Batman and Superman fight, it doesn't need to be like this.
Suppose this is all the vestiges of the fact it was two movies before. Really curious to see all about the actual development of this, seems like a mess.
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god the trailer is great. Should have used this from the start.
Also batmans "you were never a god. You werent even a man" line gives me chills
Edit: is this trailer music from the movie? cant remember.
Any source?
It's not in the soundtrack.
This is a different interview so I guess we weren't talking about the same one. Still, he doesn't dismiss Cap or Iron Man. He just said there's a shit ton of super hero movies now compared to previous years. Everybody knows about these characters now because CBM movies have become huge properties. And acting like Iron Man wasn't a second tier superhero back then is ignoring context.
His Batman comment was just saying that the Nolan movies aren't dark, just serious. The rape thing was not meant to be taken seriously. No one gave a shit about this interview until 8 years later when BvS came out and Batman killed a few people.
We've been over this interview a thousand times on this forum and it still needs to be explained. It's become quite ridiculous. And just so we get it out of the way, again, he didn't insult Ant-Man either. All he meant was that when the superhero movie craze dies down Superman, Batman, Spider-Man (and hell maybe Iron Man) will still see movies getting made but these lesser popular characters will be left in the dust. You think they are ever going to make a Cyborg or Ant-Man movie outside of an expanded universe series of movies? Nope.
That quote is specifically talking about watchmen, and he's right. Again with the unfounded objectivists comments lol
Team Filler
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Yeah, I wish comic book movies had better covers as a whole. More stuff like this, please:
Snyder wants to rape Batman who does he think he is? Grant Morrison? Morrison raped Batman and create Damien Wayne who is liked by a lot of fans.
The Outsider
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Genuinely curious to see if this improves the film at all. Coming out of the movie, I felt the answer was cutting 30 minutes of bloat out, not adding 30 minutes back in. Maybe the whole thing will feel more cohesive with the new material though.
Shame about the cover. I was hoping the Best Buy steelbook would be a better alternative, but it ain't anything to brag about either.
Shame about the cover. I was hoping the Best Buy steelbook would be a better alternative, but it ain't anything to brag about either.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Movie was not great but i still liked it. Extended cut looks great,more Batfleck is always good and it seems like we're getting more Superman scenes which is nice.Can't wait for this.
Edit:
New DC logo on cover looks really out of place.I already miss the old logo.
That is an awful cover.
The Outsider
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I hope one day they will release the 4 hours version
God no.
deadscreensky
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And here I thought the Verhoeven quote would be hard to top.
Grant Morrison "raped" Batman to establish complex emotional relationships with other characters, most notably his son, Talia, and Robin. It added new depth for storytelling purposes, as among other things Batman now wanted to make peace with a villain for the sake of his son. This is in direct contrast with his stated mission of fighting crime. He suddenly has to choose between Gotham and something he cares about just as much, if not more. It led to new dramatic possibilities, dozens of new characters, and all sorts of expansion of the Batman mythos.
Snyder actually specifically said he wants Batman to get raped in prison. It's edgelord nonsense. What interesting new angles is prison rape going to give your Batman story? He's already a victim, that's the origin of his crusade!
(Grant Morrison didn't actually write the Son of the Demon story -- your whole rape thing -- but like the rest of Batman's continuity he didn't ignore it either. That's like saying Morrison killed Batman's parents or made an alien kill Robin.)
D.Lo
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Why the fuck is Wonder Woman the main person on the cover of a movie Called Batman V Superman.Movie was not great but i still liked it. Extended cut looks great,more Batfleck is always good and it seems like we're getting more Superman scenes which is nice.Can't wait for this.
Edit:
New DC logo on cover looks really out of place.I already miss the old logo.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Balance. It isn't uncommon to feature The Trinity that way.
She's the Ultimate Edition part.
I don't get that either. And isn't her screen time like 5 minutes? Weird.
PhantomZone
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Easy answer she was the highlight or the best part of the film for most people
.When she rocks up in the climatic battle, it's an epic moment!!!
Yeah. That's not what he said though. Read any number of comments on this page. He said raping Batman in prison would be dark, not training with ninjas as a monastery.
I feel like BvS serves as a great Rorschach test for comic book fans.
They wanted to put the Trinity on the cover in static poses. You have two beefcakes and one slender woman. How do you position them other than by putting WW in the center?
The cover is bad - it's boring, made by quickly slapping together three promo shots - but what they tried to do positioning characters as they are right now is the only proper one.
I always associated Damian Wayne with Grant Morrison so I was wrong. Point is anything can be tackled in the right hands. Whether you think Zach Snyder is able to do that, is open to debate but tackling those themes is possible
Mengy
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You are not alone Duck. I can't really stand any of Snyder's interpretations on the characters. I felt meh on MoS and I like BvS even less, so I will not be buying the blu ray and I doubt I'll go see any more of his DC movies. They just aren't appealing to me. If I want to see Superman or Batman I have lots of other better and superior options to do so.
Maybe in some future DC movie universe reboot I'll be able to enjoy them again, hopefully.
Movie was not great but i still liked it. Extended cut looks great,more Batfleck is always good and it seems like we're getting more Superman scenes which is nice.Can't wait for this.
Edit:
New DC logo on cover looks really out of place.I already miss the old logo.
Jeez have they changed the DC logo AGAIN? In the span of 10 years I've seen three different rebrandings for this thing.
Dash_Riprock
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I like this new one though. Previous one was all kinds of Ass-Garbage and screamed "Focus-Group."
cj_iwakura
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More like Ultimate Lens Flare.
I have a couple movies with similar cover art, I think its from a steel book company. Hellboy 2 and one of the Riddick movies are two that I can think of. Love the style.
bob_arctor
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NealMcCauley
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Maybe from the get-go the V was meant to represent Wonder Woman's cleavage.
bishopcruz
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Right, but Batman wasn't raped in Son of the Demon. Morrison came up with an explanation that Batman was drugged and that was the only reason he slept with Talia after the fact. It was weird and unnecessary.
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