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Best 3D TV, Receiver, and Surround Sound systems for gaming?

TheExodu5

Banned
Luigison said:
OP updated again.

My wife thinks $5000 is too much for our budget so that eliminates the Panasonic and Sony 3D TVs in the OP. I could downgrade those (suggestions?). Or should I go with my first choice of the Samsung c8000?

From what I've read my 80G PS3 fat w/ BC will play 3D fine. Other than bigger HD and quieter fan, are there any good reasons to upgrade to a slim w/out BC?

BTW, I already have an HD (1080i) TV, but its front panel stopped working and has developed a hole in the center of the screen behind the plastic/glass front. Thus, the reason for the upgrade.

3d is not a necessity, but I figure, why not. I'm an early adapter anyway. Still, I'd love to be on the winning side like I was with blu-ray. Any thoughts on which 3D glasses/TV will become standard?

Any other suggestions/comments on TVs or receiver/speakers?

Honestly, why not go for a top of the line 2D TV and put the extra money into getting a decent sound system? $1500 for TV, $1500 for sound system

54" Panasonic G25 for $1280 + shipping
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00392147E/?tag=neogaf0e-20

65" Panasonic S2 for $1837 + free shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00391Z89K/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The S2 is almost as good as the G25 series...slightly worse blacks and colors, but mostly comparable. Honestly, the extra 11" trounces the quality bump from the G25 if you could use a bigger TV.

Onkyo 608 receiver:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BIFOL8/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Head over to AVS Forum to find some decent bookshelf speakers. I can tell you right now it's not going to be from Sony, Samsung, Polk, Klipsch, Yamaha, Bose, or basically any speakers you can find at BestBuy.

I NEED SCISSORS said:
It doesn't matter what surround setup you have, i'm still right - if you have a PS3 slim, you don't need a receiver.

Well you are right, sure. But you still do need a 6 channel amplifier, and the easiest way to get that is a receiver.

Sorry for not being so tactful with my earlier response...I don't think things through on the first reply. :lol


H_Prestige said:
Pioneer is actually known for the most dithering. Panasonic and Samsung plasmas are more clear at closer distances. I still would never use a plasma as a computer monitor though.

Were. :p
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Jtrizzy said:
Plasma is ok for pc gaming though right? Just not for normal computer use. I'm going to build a pc at some point in the near future.

They'll do, as long as you sit at a reasonable distance away.
 

FoxSpirit

Junior Member
TheExodu5 said:
Head over to AVS Forum to find some decent bookshelf speakers. I can tell you right now it's not going to be from Sony, Samsung, Polk, Klipsch, Yamaha, Bose, or basically any speakers you can find at BestBuy.

Now that was unjustified. Klipsch has made definitely fine speakers.
 

Luigison

Member
I NEED SCISSORS said:
It doesn't matter what surround setup you have, i'm still right - if you have a PS3 slim, you don't need a receiver.
What does the slim offer that my fat w/ BC doesn't have?

Also, I nor my wife are audiophiles. So, spending as much on the sound system as the TV sounds ridiculous to us. Can someone be specific on why we should or should getting a receiver?

I can see the points about getting a quality 2D set until the 3D standard is worked out or parallax 3D works for big TVs. My wife doesn't want to wear glasses for 3D. Any good estimates on when no glasses 3D will be available and at what cost?

How bad is the buzz on Samsung plasmas? Is it high pitch that older (I'm 38) can't usually hear?
 

TheExodu5

Banned
FoxSpirit said:
Now that was unjustified. Klipsch has made definitely fine speakers.

Yeah sorry, I should have specified: the Klipsch speakers you'll find at BestBuy. A lot of the higher end audio companies (including Denon) have lower quality (often outsourced) products that they sell off to the bigger retailers. The Denon receivers you'll find at BestBuy are all made in China, as opposed to their main brand which is made in Japan.


Luigison said:
What does the slim offer that my fat w/ BC doesn't have?

Also, I nor my wife are audiophiles. So, spending as much on the sound system as the TV sounds ridiculous to us. Can someone be specific on why we should or should getting a receiver?

I can see the points about getting a quality 2D set until the 3D standard is worked out or parallax 3D works for big TVs. My wife doesn't want to wear glasses for 3D. Any good estimates on when no glasses 3D will be available and at what cost?

How bad is the buzz on Samsung plasmas? Is it high pitch that older (I'm 38) can't usually hear?

If it's any help, at least speakers don't depreciate the way that TVs do. A decent soundsystem will last a lifetime (except for the receiver). Spending a bit of extra money to ensure that human voice comes out of the center channel instead of the subwoofer is worth it, in my book. It's not exactly a small issue.

edit: even if you go with a subpar brand, just make sure you get something with 6" woofers or more. The little 2" Bose type speakers will sound awful no matter what.
 
Luigison said:
What does the slim offer that my fat w/ BC doesn't have?

Also, I nor my wife are audiophiles. So, spending as much on the sound system as the TV sounds ridiculous to us. Can someone be specific on why we should or should getting a receiver?

I can see the points about getting a quality 2D set until the 3D standard is worked out or parallax 3D works for big TVs. My wife doesn't want to wear glasses for 3D. Any good estimates on when no glasses 3D will be available and at what cost?

How bad is the buzz on Samsung plasmas? Is it high pitch that older (I'm 38) can't usually hear?

Only the slim models offer on-board decoding of lossless audio tracks (such as TrueHD and DTS-MA) into a PCM track that a surround sound system can use.

Fat models would need a receiver to handle the decoding.
 
TheExodu5 said:
Honestly, why not go for a top of the line 2D TV and put the extra money into getting a decent sound system? $1500 for TV, $1500 for sound system

This is by far the best idea. 3D TVs still need some time to mature, and for the prices to come down. Really your best bet is to go with a really nice 2D set for now.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Also, if you have to, go with 2 front speakers and a center channel to begin with. You don't need rears or a subwoofer. Add rear speakers in the future, followed finally by the subwoofer. Good front speakers are way more important than surround sound. The subwoofer should be the least of your worries, since 6" drivers should be able to produce low'ish frequencies.
 
I just bought a Yamaha RX-V467 system for $300.

Couldn't be happier with it. And for anyone that uses headphones for gaming, it is muuuch better than the Sony posted in the OP due to the Yamaha Silent Cinema headphone technology. The best technology for headphones you can find on receivers.
 

itsgreen

Member
I would recommend NOT buying a 3DTV now...

If you can wait do it.

Being near first-gen you can expect great improvements in performance and price. And most likely models with universal glasses. With a little bit of luck next year.

I would buy a tv to take care of the next two years, and buy a nice 3D tv when the 720 comes out (personally think the PS4 will be a little later than the 720)
 

Bdub

Member
Only the slim models offer on-board decoding of lossless audio tracks (such as TrueHD and DTS-MA) into a PCM track that a surround sound system can use.

Fat models would need a receiver to handle the decoding.

I think this is backwards. The fat model decodes the audio, and sends it via LPCM to any HDMI receiver that supports LPCM over HDMI. In 2006, there were plenty of HDMI receivers taht would accept the lossless signal, but not have the decoders. There were also lots of receivers that didn't switch sound over HDMI, so you were screwed if your receiver didn't support LPCM.

If you have a fat PS3, your receiver will show "Multi In" or something, rather than TrueHD or DTS-Master.

You can set your slim to bitstream the audio to your receiver and have it decoded there. This would be preferable if your receiver has better decoders than the PS3.

Certainly I was only able to configure this with my Slim. I have a fat as well, and it decodes lossless audio.
 

Gomu Gomu

Member
TheExodu5 said:
though decent sound systems start in the range of roughly $300-$600 for receiver, and $200 per speaker.
Fuck. No way in hell I'm going to afford this any time soon.
Say I'll just stick for the all-in-one systems. Which one is the absolute best?
 

MANGOD

Banned
Thinking of jumping aboard the 3D train soon also. Am waiting till next years models start appearing though which should be around Feb/March next year
 

see5harp

Member
I NEED SCISSORS said:
Only the slim models offer on-board decoding of lossless audio tracks (such as TrueHD and DTS-MA) into a PCM track that a surround sound system can use.

Fat models would need a receiver to handle the decoding.

Nah dude.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I wouldn't worry too much about the 3D side of things. I mean, if you go for the top set with the best non-3D features and quality, it will likely also have 3D support anyway and still cost about the same as it normally would have (i.e. Panny plasmas).

Is next year when the Kuro-based Panny sets are going to come out?
 
I'm glad someone made a thread about this, I'm now have more ammo to to hold off on buying a new TV.


But I was also interested in a relatively cheap 5.1 Surround sound system for the bedroom where the computer and TV are.

I was looking at this: Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speaker System

I want it mostly for the PC, but I want to be able to hook the TV up to it directly as well since the Wii, DVD player and Cable box are all routed through that. I also like the control panel and the remote.

Does this look like a good system to buy (I found it for alot cheaper than whats on the site BTW) or do you guys know of something around the same price(~$330) that is better?
 

Luigison

Member
BlackNMild2k1 said:
I'm glad someone made a thread about this, I'm now have more ammo to to hold off on buying a new TV.


But I was also interested in a relatively cheap 5.1 Surround sound system for the bedroom where the computer and TV are.

I was looking at this: Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speaker System

I want it mostly for the PC, but I want to be able to hook the TV up to it directly as well since the Wii, DVD player and Cable box are all routed through that. I also like the control panel and the remote.

Does this look like a good system to buy (I found it for alot cheaper than whats on the site BTW) or do you guys know of something around the same price(~$330) that is better?
That looks like a pretty good system for a PC, but isn't what I want for my entertainment center.
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I want something that'll take all of my inputs for DirecTV, PS3, and Wii without having to disconnect or use y-adapters or other type of splitters/connectors.
 

Dachande

Member
I'm looking to buy an all-in-one box within the next couple of weeks, probably the next time I get paid if I can wait that long. While obviously getting a receiver and the speakers separately would result in a better setup, I don't want to spend £200+ on just the receiver and then another £150+ on each pair of speakers over the course of the next few months; I want something that will be better than my TV speakers ASAP and I want 5.1 from the off, not stereo.

I'm looking at the Onkyo HTS-3305 which looks like a damn good all-in-one solution for a very good price. It's only entry-range but that's all I'm looking for anyway.
 
Dachande said:
I'm looking to buy an all-in-one box within the next couple of weeks, probably the next time I get paid if I can wait that long. While obviously getting a receiver and the speakers separately would result in a better setup, I don't want to spend £200+ on just the receiver and then another £150+ on each pair of speakers over the course of the next few months; I want something that will be better than my TV speakers ASAP and I want 5.1 from the off, not stereo.

I'm looking at the Onkyo HTS-3305 which looks like a damn good all-in-one solution for a very good price. It's only entry-range but that's all I'm looking for anyway.

It's not bad, but I'd really recommend doing what some of the other posters have said--buy each component separately, you'll be a lot happier.

I used to have a pretty nice HTIB, until the receiver broke out of warranty. I went and got a real receiver, and piece by piece built a better system, that will be capped off by the Polk 505 Sub in a month or so.

There is no comparison. Trust me.
 
Get a better reciever... most decent receivers now upscaled all other inputs via HDMI, so you don't need that little box thing for the Wii.
 

-COOLIO-

The Everyman
TheExodu5 said:
There's too much dithering on a plasma when up close to use one as a PC monitor. While I definitely recommend getting a plasma for home theater and gaming usage, I think LCD is more suited to computer usage.
what if i were still using the monitor at a distance though? like lets say, surfing the net from my couch.

is plasma alright for that?
 

Luigison

Member
SlaughterX said:
Get a better reciever... most decent receivers now upscaled all other inputs via HDMI, so you don't need that little box thing for the Wii.
Can you or anyone recommend a specific receiver that'll upscale my Wii output and send it via a single HDMI output?

Anticitizen One said:
Is there any TV besides Sony that has the Google TV system built in?
OH? I didn't know anyone had Google TV built in. I'm not able to spend $5000 on a Sony 3D TV in the size for my room, but may have to wait anyway. Thanks.

Also, I've read some practically horror stories about PS3 and receiver settings. Do the Sony Bravia receivers have less headaches due to their Sync? Are the new slim PS3 models less frustrating?
 

Everdred

Member
TheExodu5 said:
Honestly, why not go for a top of the line 2D TV and put the extra money into getting a decent sound system? $1500 for TV, $1500 for sound system

65" Panasonic S2 for $1837 + free shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00391Z89K/?tag=neogaf0e-20


The S2 is almost as good as the G25 series...slightly worse blacks and colors, but mostly comparable. Honestly, the extra 11" trounces the quality bump from the G25 if you could use a bigger TV.
Just bought this badboy yesterday! Can't wait to get it this Thursday. Upgrading from a G10 Panasonic. Hope it compares to that one... she was beautiful.
 

MrPliskin

Banned
This probably goes against everything most gamers believe in, but "the best" is often over kill. Spending that additional few thousand dollars on combined home theater components is a waste, IMO. Get a good set up (not the "best") and save the rest of your money to invest in media to enjoy it on.

Hell, you could always just put it in a bank account and let it accrue interest, then upgrade in a few years when shit get's even better.

Just my two cents though :)
 

Luigison

Member
MrPliskin said:
This probably goes against everything most gamers believe in, but "the best" is often over kill. Spending that additional few thousand dollars on combined home theater components is a waste, IMO. Get a good set up (not the "best") and save the rest of your money to invest in media to enjoy it on.

Hell, you could always just put it in a bank account and let it accrue interest, then upgrade in a few years when shit get's even better.

Just my two cents though :)
I agree. I should have said "Best for a budget" or something.
 

Seda

Member
Everdred said:
Just bought this badboy yesterday! Can't wait to get it this Thursday. Upgrading from a G10 Panasonic. Hope it compares to that one... she was beautiful.

Well the G20/25 is the "successor" (obviously) to the G10. The S series is a "step-down" if you will, from the G series, but they're similar.
 
see5harp said:
Nah dude.

Well now i'm completely lost :lol

SlaughterX said:
Get a better reciever... most decent receivers now upscaled all other inputs via HDMI, so you don't need that little box thing for the Wii.

Awesome, I just connected my PS2 and did just this. MGS2 looks rather excellent upscaled (no match for an emulator of course, but my PC isn't good enough). Backwards compatibility am cry.
 

MrPliskin

Banned
Luigison said:
I agree. I should have said "Best for a budget" or something.

Here's some advice I can give!

What I would do is invest in a decent HTIB (I have an Onkyo, and I really enjoy it). These can be had for under $500 (especially if it's black friday). You can use the money save to eventually upgrade your speakers, which will make much more difference than blowing your wad on a fantastic receiver.

Then I'd get a TV, probably nothing pricier than $1500. 3DTV's are a bit premature. Let the super rich adopt them, and wait it out. Don't end up like early HDTV buyers with a set that will only display 720p (or a questionable 1080i). Just wait it out, trust me ;)

This should put you around $2,000 or so, give or take, with some breathing room for other goodies.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
DeaconKnowledge said:
The right TV is the one that's for sale.

The right surround system is anyone.
That line of thinking only leads to disappointment. I've been down that road and ended up spending more money in the end. Buying a cheap TV is not recommended. You should always test them out yourself in store with content you find challenging. I've helped friends do this and it is always an eye opener. Oftentimes a TV which looks nice running the store loop suddenly displays a lot of issues once certain content is displayed.

I have to admit, TV technology is disappointing me right now. The focus on gimmicky 3D is killing the drive to improve the panels in other areas. We still have a lot of the same flaws that were present back in 2008. It's as if they've all declared that displays were "good enough" and started focusing on 3D.

It's a shame OLED is still out of the question. The black levels on those AMOLED phone screens are insane, though there are still other issues that would need to be solved.

This is always a tough question because budget shopping can land you with a bunch of equipment you'll want to upgrade and end up costing you more in the long run. I've changed out every component of my theater multiple times to reach the point where I'm at (now totally satisfied).
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
The right TV is the one that's for sale.

The right surround system is anyone.

Cute.

dark10x said:
I have to admit, TV technology is disappointing me right now. The focus on gimmicky 3D is killing the drive to improve the panels in other areas. We still have a lot of the same flaws that were present back in 2008. It's as if they've all declared that displays were "good enough" and started focusing on 3D.

I disagree. Both Panasonic and Samsung have objectively made much bigger improvements to their plasma displays picture quality this year than they have in years past.
 

AwRy108

Member
TheExodu5 said:
Honestly, why not go for a top of the line 2D TV and put the extra money into getting a decent sound system? $1500 for TV, $1500 for sound system

54" Panasonic G25 for $1280 + shipping
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00392147E/?tag=neogaf0e-20

65" Panasonic S2 for $1837 + free shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00391Z89K/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The S2 is almost as good as the G25 series...slightly worse blacks and colors, but mostly comparable. Honestly, the extra 11" trounces the quality bump from the G25 if you could use a bigger TV.

Onkyo 608 receiver:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BIFOL8/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Head over to AVS Forum to find some decent bookshelf speakers. I can tell you right now it's not going to be from Sony, Samsung, Polk, Klipsch, Yamaha, Bose, or basically any speakers you can find at BestBuy.



Well you are right, sure. But you still do need a 6 channel amplifier, and the easiest way to get that is a receiver.

Sorry for not being so tactful with my earlier response...I don't think things through on the first reply. :lol

I couldn't agree more with this.

This summer I grabbed the 54" Panasonic G25 from Amazon when it was $1500, and I am continually impressed with the quality of the picture--I don't know why anyone would buy a different TV, especially now that the price is down to freekin' $1250. I have one of SONY's first LCD 1080p XBR's, and with the Panny, I can see detail in games that I didn't even know was there before.

Also, for what it's worth: I just bought the Energy Take Classic 5.1 speakers ($399 + $100 giftcard promo) and Yamaha's RX-V667BL receiver ($549 + $150 giftcard promo), which, based on lots of research, I deemed to be a terrific setup for the price. Still waiting on some accessories, so I haven't set up the audio stuff yet, but I already know I'll be pleased.
 

thuway

Member
Here's my post on your audio side:

Give us some information:

How big is your room? What are you aiming for - a truly theatrical experience or a 2 channel haven? Tell me what your room is shaped like? etc.

The thing is, always remember this, a bad sounding room, no matter what speakers you put in, will still sound bad. Thats why I reccomend first and foremost getting room treatments before going balls to the wall on anything.

Secondly, in my experience in home theater, there are two things that will truly bring you to impress other people. The first being a projector (and with the right screen you can make it as bright as a plasma for under 1k). The second being a subwoofer.

Look at brands like-

1. SVS
2. Epik
3. Elemental Designs

Lastly, remember, diminishing returns! I think audiophiles sometime take this hobby over board. You will be hard pressed to tell a difference between a good pair of 1k speakers and 10k speakers if you set things up right. More expensive doesn't mean sounding better.


Lets tackle this one issue at a time:

1. Speakers

Speakers are an interesting beast. You can have the most amazing sounding speakers, but they can be ugly as hell. This is the exact reason I went Onix Rocket.

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Another thing to keep in mind is, the CENTER CHANNEL. It is the most important part of your home theater since 99% of the time it is active. The Onix Center I have is 50lbs in box.

Depending on where you live, you might want to audition as many brands as possible. Always audition your speakers before buying them. When buying speakers, I would reccomend getting a lower end tower speaker. That way you get some oomph and it looks classy.

Here's a short list of speakers to look into:

1. AV123- the Onix Rocket line (the company is now defunct due to the owner partaking in charity fraud)
2. Energy- the Connoisseur line (www.energy-speakers.com)
3. Paradigm Audio - the Studio line
4. Polk- the LSi line
5. Klipsch Reference
6. Axiom Audio

A word of advice, always shop around, and ALWAYS look used. Use your craigslist, frequent forums, etc. Here is a helpful list of links I conjured up:


1. http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...re-sale-trade/
2. http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=15
3. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=127

Some of those speakers look expensive, but I bought my entire Rocket set at 1000 dollars. A full 7.1 set, at 1k. Which would retail at 3k + shipping. Always look used :).

Here's an example of an outstanding deal used: http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3264

As with anything, talk him down, get those speakers, and your essentially done with your main speakers.

2. Bass

The challenege is, you live in an apartment? No problem! Here is the best known secret in home theater.

BASS SHAKERS for your bass. The Buttkicker LFE kit. Its a really nice piece of magic for apartments. This little item will give you the same effect of those huge subwoofers, only it makes zero noise and is cleverly hidden underneath your couch :). They can be had I believe for 400 bucks. You might want to get another one just in case. Don't believe me? Read this review:


http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...kicker-lfe-kit

3. Electronics

Don't worry about going high end in your reciever / amplifier. In today's world of audio, low - mid range of items tend to have 99% of electronics that you need. So if I were you, like they mentioned in the thread, the usual names are the ones to be looked at.

1. Yamaha
2. Harman Kardan (I personally favor these due to the warmness of their sound)
3. Onkyo

Don't spend more then $400. Reciever technology moves too fast, standards become obselete, and your left with an aging peice of technology.

Ask yourself when buying a receiver-

1. How many components will I be hooking up? (HDMI is a huge deal these days)
2. Does this receiver have audio correction software?
3. Am I buying this product short term or long term?

Always remember, get a nice remote! Those Logitech Harmony's are a Godsend.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Not sure which ones support it, but might be worth looking for a receiver that supports Dolby Headphone, so you can still play at night/without disturbing people and get spatial separation.

One thing I *really* like about my Yamaha 667 is it can switch HDMI inputs using the remote control, without being switched on. So I can route all HDMI equipment through it, and still switch while its in standby. Very useful if you have a partner or kids that just want to watch the TV with TV sound and not mess about with 'fancy electronics'.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
MikeE21286 said:
I just bought a Yamaha RX-V467 system for $300.

Couldn't be happier with it. And for anyone that uses headphones for gaming, it is muuuch better than the Sony posted in the OP due to the Yamaha Silent Cinema headphone technology. The best technology for headphones you can find on receivers.


is this automatic? I was playing DR2 for the first time on headphones last night, and was looking for a 'silent cinema' button, or icon to light up on the receiver, but nothing. (Have an RX-V667)


As for TVs, I love my 46HX803. No crosstalk to speak of unless the source is badly done, fantastic blacks, overall love it.

To those saying get a top of the line 2DTV - well the 3DTVs on sale *are* this years top of the range 2DTVs too..


AgentWhiskersX said:
Do 3D TVs also come in the 40" flavor? All I've seen so far are 23-inchers and 46"+.

Yes. Samsung 40C750 is probably the budget end of the scale, Sony also do a 40HX803
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
I disagree. Both Panasonic and Samsung have objectively made much bigger improvements to their plasma displays picture quality this year than they have in years past.
They have definitely made improvements (especially Panasonic), but I still don't feel they've surpassed the Pioneer I've been using since 2008. :\ That's really what I'm waiting for.

When there is a TV capable of producing even better black levels with even better motion handling AND 3D without glasses (unlikely for a while), I'll be ready to upgrade.
 
I've been using my HDTV's internal speakers for about two years now and think its's time for an upgrade. I've been planning on buying a nice 5.1 or 7.1 system/receiver for awhile now, but right now the games are just rolling in and I don't have any more spare money.

Sony is releasing a Playstation-branded "surround sound" soundbar later this month. I've been hearing mixed things on how this may perform, but may be great for a temporary solution (for those like me who plan on going all out on a quality 5.1/7.1 setup in the future but don't have spending cash in excess right now) that's miles ahead of what just internal speakers.

Even Gamestop will be carrying it, convenient:
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=84076
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NekoFever

Member
BlackNMild2k1 said:
I was looking at this: Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speaker System

I want it mostly for the PC, but I want to be able to hook the TV up to it directly as well since the Wii, DVD player and Cable box are all routed through that. I also like the control panel and the remote.

Does this look like a good system to buy (I found it for alot cheaper than whats on the site BTW) or do you guys know of something around the same price(~$330) that is better?
I had the model down from that (Z-5400) for a long time and it was great for a small room. Although it was less powerful, I actually liked the Z-5400 better because it had two opticals, which was handy for running the PS3 and 360 through it without a switch. Too bad it was discontinued a while ago.

I was also pleasantly surprised to see that it could handle 5.1 PCM through its stereo inputs if you hook it up to a Blu-ray player with analogue audio outs and onboard decoding. The same would go for a PC sound card with multichannel outs.
 
TheExodu5 said:
Honestly, why not go for a top of the line 2D TV and put the extra money into getting a decent sound system? $1500 for TV, $1500 for sound system

54" Panasonic G25 for $1280 + shipping
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00392147E/?tag=neogaf0e-20

65" Panasonic S2 for $1837 + free shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00391Z89K/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The S2 is almost as good as the G25 series...slightly worse blacks and colors, but mostly comparable. Honestly, the extra 11" trounces the quality bump from the G25 if you could use a bigger TV.

Onkyo 608 receiver:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BIFOL8/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Head over to AVS Forum to find some decent bookshelf speakers. I can tell you right now it's not going to be from Sony, Samsung, Polk, Klipsch, Yamaha, Bose, or basically any speakers you can find at BestBuy.



Well you are right, sure. But you still do need a 6 channel amplifier, and the easiest way to get that is a receiver.

Sorry for not being so tactful with my earlier response...I don't think things through on the first reply. :lol




Were. :p

Is it true that that receiver doesn't pass through the video signal untouched? I read that you have to switch loads of things off, including the osd, to get an untouched picture.
 

-COOLIO-

The Everyman
this has probably been asked a lot but is there any reason besides the fact that it''s new as to why 3d tvs are so expensive? the technical requirements are simply 120hz and hdmi 1.4 right? im guessing the hdmi 1.4 port doesnt cost $1000 more than 1.3 on average right?
 

SCHUEY F1

Unconfirmed Member
I was probably looking to get a new TV in November, but I might as well hold out until the big holiday sales. Probably looking to pick up a nice 2D TV in the 52-55" range and I would rather not spend more than $2000.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
mrklaw said:
To those saying get a top of the line 2DTV - well the 3DTVs on sale *are* this years top of the range 2DTVs too..
I said this earlier as well. I find it surprising more people don't realize this, it just takes a little research.
 
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