That's the one I'm talking about. Lower Pthumeru layer 2 boss, right?
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That's the one I'm talking about. Lower Pthumeru layer 2 boss, right?
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Jugendstil
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I just got to this room and lost like 200K Blood Echoes, haha. I think I'm going to take a break for a bit, I can only handle so much abuse.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Making my way through Yahar'Gul at the moment. It's a pretty taxing area, because you're constantly rushing to find the Bell Summoners or whatever they're called, and the atmosphere in the whole place is just creepy as fuck. Having the
all around the place doesn't help. Didn't have time to get to the boss so I'll finish up tomorrow night.
giant silent Amygdalas holding on to the buildings
entremet
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Only 200k. I learned to shake off those loses back in Demons lol.
Jugendstil
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Yeah, I've played through all the other Souls games too. At this point in the game they're mostly meaningless, but it still hurts my pride when I die before I can retrieve them. I didn't even manage make it into the room where I lost them... that's always when I know I need a break.
entremet
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I played the Dark Souls DLC on NG+ first. Not a great idea, but a really fun challenge.
Orochinagis
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Better rush where source is or is nearly impossible to pass trought
Triggerhappytel
Member
Finished Yahar'Gul last night and defeated
on my first try. I love the cutscene where
.
Made my way into the
, and holy shit I immediately felt out of my depth! Those
aren't too bad on their own, but fighting them while trying to avoid
is a nuisance, and unless you kill them with a visceral attack they
or whatever they're called, which are always a pain to kill. I went away and did some levelling up, upgraded my axe to +9 (thanks to loads of Bloodstone Chunks in Yahar'Gul) and I think I'll do a Chalice Dungeon or two before I go back there.
I also went to Upper Cathedral Ward and got destroyed by the first two Church Doctors - they're much harder than the ones downstairs! I had about 90k Blood Echoes on me at the time, but luckily I managed to retrieve them. Didn't go back there yet, but may return before I go back to
.
Edit - also, I love that I'm getting more into straight horror elements, but goddamn it can be draining to play. I had to go and play Gravity Rush 2 after this as I needed something upbeat and positive before going to bed!
Edit 2 - also, is there an in-game timer? I'd like to know how long I've been playing.
The One Reborn
it's summoned by the Chime Maidens and falls out of the sky
Made my way into the
Nightmare of Mensis
Silverbeasts
the Frenzy 'pulse' from the tower
spawn those goddamn Hateful Maggots
I also went to Upper Cathedral Ward and got destroyed by the first two Church Doctors - they're much harder than the ones downstairs! I had about 90k Blood Echoes on me at the time, but luckily I managed to retrieve them. Didn't go back there yet, but may return before I go back to
Nightmare of Mensis
Edit - also, I love that I'm getting more into straight horror elements, but goddamn it can be draining to play. I had to go and play Gravity Rush 2 after this as I needed something upbeat and positive before going to bed!
Edit 2 - also, is there an in-game timer? I'd like to know how long I've been playing.
Red Liquorice
Member
On the load game screen - you might not see it if you just select continue and go straight into your last game, but it shows if you pick the other option to select a save game.
Melchiah
Member
You can
lure the Silverbeasts out in the open, where they'll be killed by frenzy.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Cool, thanks. I'll do that tonight. I just always go straight to Continue.
I did nightmare of mensis last night. In the beginning i just ignored everything and ran to the shortcut. This is something i'm not too fond of in souls games. This is area is filled with such bullshit. You're better off just running away from everything. After having opened the first shortcut i explored the rest of the area normally.
nightmare-slain
Banned
it's the frenzy. i hate it and don't think it's needed. it would be fine without it because i kept dying to the enemies there without the help of it but oh no let's add frenzy! thankfully after that it's likely you'll only encounter frenzy one more time and that's if you have the DLC. god i hated the fishing hamlet
Ailing Loran is down! I think I'll wait until the endgame before taking on the defiled chalice. Fuck having my HP reduced by half.
The fishing hamlet is the best area in the game IMO.
The fishing hamlet is the best area in the game IMO.
I had low insight and it was still a pain to get through.
By the way, what's the point of having high insight? Does it affecting anything in a positive way?
roflwaffles
Member
Anyone here run a STR/ARC build?
I started a playthrough of this and I'm relatively early on it - but I can't seem to find what is more optimal - STR 25/ARC 50 or STR 50/ARC 25.
I started a playthrough of this and I'm relatively early on it - but I can't seem to find what is more optimal - STR 25/ARC 50 or STR 50/ARC 25.
Jugendstil
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I am, sort of. I focused on strength, but now that I am using and loving the Holy Moonlight Sword, I am starting to pump up my ARC. Personally, I think focusing on strength early on is great if you want to be super powerful, especially if you get the DLC weapons like the Whirligig Saw and Beast Cutter early. Those two were my go to through most of the game and they are an awesome combo. Weapons that are specifically STR/ARC based like the Wheel and Tonitrus aren't really my thing, but the HMS is awesome.
Ultimately, it depends on what weapons you want to use and if you want to use spells (hunter tools or whatever they're called) and the HMS projectiles. It also depends on if you're setting yourself a level limit for co-op and PVP. If you're going to go past 110, go all the way to STR 50/ARC 50. I realized I'm not going to do much multiplayer with this character, so that's what I'm going for now.
Orochinagis
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Depends a lot if you have the DLC, Tonitrus is maybe the only weapon who uses ARC in the entire game without going to chalices , Hunter Spells are kinda late game so you will probably rely on blades of mercy that have good SKLL/ARC scaling or your starter weapons for a good time.
If you have the DLC there are more ARC weapons there like the bloodletter, boomhammer and Moonlight sword.
I think that place is really interesting in how it uses the frenzy. I think the game designers knew that it's a pain in the ass to deal with, so the level is designed in a way that makes you only deal with it for a small portion of the area.
All the enemy resting spots are blind spots to the frenzy, so they highlight where you can stand and fight safely. They get hurt by frenzy too, if you lure them out of those spots, so you can kill something to take their safe spot, then lure enemies out of their safe spots so that they get softened up by frenzy before they fight you. The enemies also don't spawn snake adds if you kill them with a visceral attack, which encourages a stand-still-and-parry fighting style, which may force you to play differently to deal with the frenzy.
Or you can just run straight across the bridge. That works too, and that's pretty much what I did after a while.
I hear that ARC scales better the more you have it, so you probably want to eventually get 50 or more ARC if you plan to fight with it. Though I dunno how lower ARC works if you want to have it just supplementing a mostly melee fighting style.
Arcane builds are slow starters in the game because they rely on getting good bloodgems, plus a lot of the good arc weapons and tools come later in the game. I also hope you have the DLC, because there are some incredibly useful ARC weapons in there.
17 Seconds
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did i just fight a giant rolling baby in the first chalice dungeon?
Jugendstil
Member
Your avatar is amazing!
Bloodletter is BT not ARC. I thought it was ARC too, and was getting excited to use it until I double checked.
The Moonlight sword is still amazing though and worth at least putting 15 points in ARC to try out IMO. I was trying to resist its charms until I realized how satisfying it was to knock down brain suckers in the chalice dungeons with the L2. You'll never steal my insight again!
Depends if you want to base your playstyle about weapons or hunter tools
50STR/25ARC if you want to use a weapon like Moonlight Blade or Tonitrus (hell, MLG is closer to a quality).
60ARC/25STR if you want to take the most out of the hunter tools.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Managed to get through the first part of Nightmare of Mensis and took down Micolash. Decent-ish boss fight, but I love his design. He reminds me of a Cenobite from Hellraiser. Made my way up, but those massive many-eyed boars are proving troublesome. One alone is fine, but the pair of them were just pounding me. That's me done for tonight, so I'll finish up tomorrow.
Red Liquorice
Member
Not a spoiler per se but a tip on how to cheese them:
Just past them are a bunch of Shadows of Yarnham who are hostile against the piggies, so run past them all, watch the fun and pick off whomever is left! This is also a great non-Chalice Dungeon farming spot!
Arcane scaling on weapons works in exactly the same way as scaling for other stats - it's only when you get to Hunter Tools (Executioner Gloves, Augur of Ebrietas, etc.) that it gets complicated. In short, it's worth investing points into Arcane all the way to the max (99) if you use a lot of spells. If you don't then there's no need to go past 50 even if your weapon has good arcane scaling.
Mechanically it's purely to your detriment outside of allowing you to summon. It does allow you to perceive some cosmetic changes to the environment before they're supposed to occur in the story, though.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Thanks for this. I've played 30 hours now. Thought it's be a bit more, to be honest.
Cool; I will give this a try tonight. It was late and I was trying to rush through, and kept making mistakes against the big ol' bastards. I will try to lure them into attacking one another instead!
nightmare-slain
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sneak up behind the first pig and you will get an easy visceral on it. walk up to the next 2. the one of the right will spot you first so when it does start backing off or you'll end up fighting both them at the same time. just try stay behind them and visceral their ass.
or you could deal with the first one then jump down to go the other way which will put you further up from the other 2 where the shadow dudes are. you can get them to fight the pigs.
running up and down this area is great for farming echoes. even better with moon runes! i think one run is about 150,000 with all 3 runes. i did it a few times and got 600,000. that's from the lantern right up to just before the boss area.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Great stuff, thanks. Looking at the wiki I must have one or two Moon Runes by now, but I haven't really bothered with any runes except for highest damage output, so I'll have a look into that tonight.
Melchiah
Member
To my recollection, you get about 100k echoes on the first playthrough, and 290k on NG+, with three Moon runes.
Eh... i assumed runes didn't stack. I was using only the stronger moon rune. Time to reopen my piggie farm.
Ignorance is bliss i guess. Thank you.
Ignorance is bliss i guess. Thank you.
Melchiah
Member
It goes for all runes, like using all three Clawmark runes to increase visceral damage, or stacking up frenzy resistance with others.
Red Liquorice
Member
Yeah they definately stack! Oink!
roflwaffles
Member
A few days later - still haven't been able to put down the
or
on either my Quality build nor my Bloodtinge build .
Is the Hunter Rune good or should I just kill Eileen? I want that Crowfeather Garb!
Bloody Crow of Cainhurst
Ludwig
. Is the Hunter Rune good or should I just kill Eileen? I want that Crowfeather Garb!
A few days later - still haven't been able to put down theorBloody Crow of Cainhurston either my Quality build nor my Bloodtinge buildLudwig
Is the Hunter Rune good or should I just kill Eileen? I want that Crowfeather Garb!
It increases your stamina regen by 10%. It's easily the best covenant rune for SP.
roflwaffles
Member
Damnit I was hoping you would say that the regen wasn't noticeable
. I'll give it a few more shots, getting one-shotted by a surprise visceral when I have him at 20-30%health over and over is crushing my soul.Triggerhappytel
Member
Beat
and I'm on my way through the Upper Cathedral Ward. Literally had just reached
when my son woke so I had to come up to settle him, but I managed to save mid-fight so I'll finish it off tomorrow.
I've just had the
, so I'm assuming things are wrapping up now and I should clean up as much as possible and do the DLC and Chalice Dungeons? I'm still missing a lot of trophies so I might see what I can clean up without having to delve into NG+ if necessary.
Nightmare of Mensis
Celestial Emmissary
I've just had the
doll tell me that Gehrman is waiting for me
Yep, you're at the end game.
Talking to Gherman
GHG
Member
A few days later - still haven't been able to put down theorBloody Crow of Cainhurston either my Quality build nor my Bloodtinge buildLudwig
Is the Hunter Rune good or should I just kill Eileen? I want that Crowfeather Garb!
Not worth it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QKDTGdkbEx0
If you want the stuff from her badge just kill her unless you really want to complete the questline.
Orochinagis
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GHG
Member
I'm of the opinion that throwing points into stamina and using anti clockwise metamorphosis runes is a far more effective way of utilising skill based weapons. It will allow you to stun lock enemies far more effectively and still have some stamina left to get out in order to allow your stamina to replenish. The stamina recovery increase from Eileen's rune only seems to come into effect once your stamina is completely depleted which isn't something you should be doing anyway if you are any good at the game.
If I had known how shit the rune was before embarking on her questline I would have killed her upon our first meeting to get all the badge early.
roflwaffles
Member
I just killed Eileen on my STR/ARC character - loving the garb.
Btw, I'm not a PS+ user - I don't generally play my PS4 enough to warrant a $50 online subscription - do I need it for chalice dungeon farming? I want to get more Blood Chunks and Lost/Uncanny weapons but I really don't know the first thing about chalice dungeons other than that they house these items.
Btw, I'm not a PS+ user - I don't generally play my PS4 enough to warrant a $50 online subscription - do I need it for chalice dungeon farming? I want to get more Blood Chunks and Lost/Uncanny weapons but I really don't know the first thing about chalice dungeons other than that they house these items.
Without PS+ you're basically crossing your fingers to get the stuff you want and the material requirements for generating new dungeons is steep (reproducing other people's dungeons is free but can't be done offline).
It's just not worth it IMO unless progressing through dungeons is its own reward for you.
Melchiah
Member
You can buy all the DLC weapon variants from the Messenger shop in the 3rd layer of the Ihyll chalice.
EDIT: It's a long way there though, if you're just starting to go through the chalcies, since it's the last one, and you have to go through the Defiled chalice first.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Internet at work was down this morning so I spent a while looking through the Bloodborne wiki on my phone to see what else I need to do before I finish the game. I'm currently on the
and then I'll go on to the next part of Upper Cathedral Ward, and then go and do Nightmare Frontier, which is the only area in the main game I haven't visited yet. I've done a couple of Chalice Dungeons so I'll finish whatever's left and then go on to do The Old Hunters DLC. I also estimate I need about 300k Blood Echoes to buy the remaining Weapons, Firearms and Tools, although some variants are found in the Chalice Dungeons so I'll probably run through those first. I also know
and I can re-download that save if necessary.
Celestial Emissary
there are choices at the end although I don't know exactly what they entail, so I will probably save to the cloud before going to the final boss