You'll be fine! Only difficult boss in there really is the Pthumerian Descendant which can cause a bit of grief. The official guide tends to overstate how high a level you should be to do stuff in the game and even that says 140 for Ihyll
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JadedWriter
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Good this would be my first platinum so I don't want some cheap boss to derail my progress. I honestly thought the headless bloodletting beast would be the hardest, but who knows with you since you cruised through so many of them.You'll be fine! Only difficult boss in there really is the Pthumerian Descendant which can cause a bit of grief. The official guide tends to overstate how high a level you should be to do stuff in the game and even that says 140 for Ihyll
Someone else said parry, but aside from one earlier attempt witha different charactrer where I though the seemed hard, this vid shows you can basically do him first try. I would go for the quicker attacks with the onehanded axe and not go for charge attacks unless you have a gem for it or something crazy. Punish his charge ups. Be relentless until you are in danger of dying, then heal and go again. I admit I came here late in teh game and usually dont give myself that much health, but the frggin defiled dungeons changed that strat in a hurry!
My advise is make a pure bloodtinge build and don't bother with skill. That's the most fun (and powerful) build I've ever had.
That means you'll only be using a Chikage (mainly in 2H form) in melee but it's so good.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
The bigger evidence about Rom not always being a Great One, comes from Micolash Cage, he says that Kos grant Rom "eyes", thus making evident that it wasn't always a Great One.
Everything else is speculation, but I think the fact that she was human is quite clear with that quote at least.
You can level Skill a few until you get the Chikage (cainhurst), otherwise until at that point is going to be a hard walk. I recommend the cane, even after getting the Chikage I feel it complements it quite well, since it has quite a low range and the cane is quite awesome with larger groups of enemies.
Unless you plan to PvP at lvl 80 or 90, I'd say is not really worth not lvling skill at all, that said I wouldn't past it to 25.
But yeah, a pure Bloodtinge build is very powerful.
I ventured to
, level 85, and am getting owned. I made it through the first few werewolves after several tries and then a PVP player came in and completely owned me. Should I leave and do something else? Only areas I have left are
(I might honesty skip this area),
, and the last bosses.
I'm ready to beat this game. As I've been chipping away since launch, but have very little time to devote toward honing my skills. I might just be bad at it, since I just started playing again after a 3 month break, but I got through the
pretty well (will revisit
).
Nightmare of Mensis
Nightmare Frontier
Cainhurst
I'm ready to beat this game. As I've been chipping away since launch, but have very little time to devote toward honing my skills. I might just be bad at it, since I just started playing again after a 3 month break, but I got through the
Upper Cathedral
Daughter of the Cosmos
You are at a high enough level to beat the game now. Overlevelled for Frontier and Cainhurst, I would do them if I were you. The latter is my favourite area in the game.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
That's quite a leap. Even if Micolash is credible (and I wouldn't say he is, he's a complete lunatic stuck in a dreamworld of his own making and his ravings and rantings should probably be taken with a grain of salt), "Kos" granting "eyes" to Rom doesn't mean that Rom was human. Rom could have been a "Great One without eyes" (maybe that's even where the "vacuous" part comes from, he does say "like you did with vacuous Rom" doesn't he?). Rom could also have been a beast, and not a human being. Maybe she was indeed human before, mind, but I just don't see how that's so obvious. Seems like pure speculation.
RE: Rom:
I like the theory in the 89-page dissertation by Redgrave. It theorizes that "vacuous" refers to Rom having been an infant child — a blank slate, mentally speaking. They say every Great One loses its child and seeks a replacement. I believe Rom was an infant girl who was ascended to Great One status. It would explain why Rom is so oddly cute (and a bit helpless, for that matter). :-3
I like the theory in the 89-page dissertation by Redgrave. It theorizes that "vacuous" refers to Rom having been an infant child — a blank slate, mentally speaking. They say every Great One loses its child and seeks a replacement. I believe Rom was an infant girl who was ascended to Great One status. It would explain why Rom is so oddly cute (and a bit helpless, for that matter). :-3
I went ahead and went for Cainhurst. Just a bit intimidated about the boss. He seems like everyone's hardest boss, or one of the hardest.
Srey Plaughtered
Member
Hardest? That depends. But definitely one of many fun to fight bosses. Just keep that parry finger ready and you'll be good.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
lol @ your username, awesome! I never noticed it before (so uh, belated welcome to GAF I guess).
Srey Plaughtered
Member
You're the first to notice it I think. And thanks.
He broke my deathless boss streak in NG+. Reminded me that how even one slip can lead to your death lol.
Damn! Yeah slip ups can be costlyYou're the first to notice it I think. And thanks.
He broke my deathless boss streak in NG+. Reminded me that how even one slip can lead to your death lol.
he's so fun to fight though, love his attack patterns and the change between the first and second phases!btw I noticed the name awhile back! Just never commented on it haha.
Srey Plaughtered
Member
Damn! Yeah slip ups can be costly
btw I noticed the name awhile back! Just never commented on it haha.
I literally just slipped off the roof.
Yeah his movesets are really cool, especially phase 2 where it gets really intense. That plus the Demon's Souls throwbacks made the fight really memorable. Aha, so people did notice it. I could only think of Bloodborne and MGS while making the account and thus the name.
LowlySmokeGuy
Banned
Try running through the spider room. You can take out the little ones as they pour through the narrow exit coming after you, but the huge one won't be able to get you.
JadedWriter
Member
I usually just trigger them run back out the door, kill the small ones and kill the big one as he's trapped in the doorway. If you use the cane the whips jumping attack will clip through the wall if you're standing underneath him. Don't be afraid to use wall clipping to your advantage.
Finished the first layer of Pthumeru Ihyll and here's my Pthumerian Descendant fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avu10DSFEXM
Ok, is there a really good, really easy way of getting Ritual Blood (4)? I'm sick of going through dungeon after dungeon and not getting any, and the Hintertomb and Pthumerian chalices have long outstayed their welcome. I just need one more but they never seem to appear! Nothing's worse than discovering a huge, shiny coffin in a chalice dungeon only to find it has a blood vial in it
Orochinagis
Member
Yeah the physical damage just go to the sky in that place, really really stupid yet is for the best to re learn you have to take a look of the enviroment because in most of the sutiations is go kill those enemies then explore. You have to explore first in that place before fighting, take the spider one by one and let the big one to the last, still it have som HUGE hitboxes attack, using physical armor would be the best in this zone.
Ok, is there a really good, really easy way of getting Ritual Blood (4)? I'm sick of going through dungeon after dungeon and not getting any, and the Hintertomb and Pthumerian chalices have long outstayed their welcome. I just need one more but they never seem to appear! Nothing's worse than discovering a huge, shiny coffin in a chalice dungeon only to find it has a blood vial in it
Loran dungeon have lots of that and the chalice you found in phumerian, the inferior chalice I think have more ritual blood chalice 4.
Later on you can buy them on the vendor in the dream
EDIT, Had to turn my game in english, its the hintertomb chalice man, you have to create more of those via gylphs and farm the material from the fat guardians or the bag bros defending chest or the treasure rooms on the red doors.
There is also this video to help you farm ritual blood in lower phumeru
I can't get to Loran because I haven't got enough ritual blood (4), and I'm not sure I've picked up an inferior chalice, but I'll take a look just to make sure.
You get Ritual Blood (4) on the dungeons created with Ritual Blood (3).
Then on those dungeons you get Ritual Blood (5) and so on.
At least that's how it's been for me so far.
JadedWriter
Member
One more chalice boss and one more story boss and I got the platinum. Just sloppily beat the Headless Bloodletting Beast:
Headless Bloodletting Beast
Headless Bloodletting Beast
Orochinagis
Member
"Lets put a big ass scary worm into a big ass scary werewolf in a small room!"
JadedWriter
Member
"And make sure his ground pound hit box is two times the size of his hands."
Cannon Goose
Member
Just ignore the minions.
JadedWriter
Member
Yeah ignore the minions and when you see him raise his hands above his head then shoot him to interrupt it, also helps to stay to his side to avoid his tentacle attack, he's a pain in the ass in NG+ oddly enough, might want to put on a rune to lessen the arcane damage.
RepairmanJack
Member
On defiled Amygdala and already have everything needed for last chalice til Platinum. Now just to see how long it will take to kill amygdala.
LiberaTeExInferis
Member
So, is there a way to farm Insight?
These damn leeches in the upper cathedral ward had bleed me dry of insight...
I remember that those crawling creatures in the Yharnam sewers give Insight, but even with the Eye rune equipped I was only getting blood vials...
These damn leeches in the upper cathedral ward had bleed me dry of insight...
I remember that those crawling creatures in the Yharnam sewers give Insight, but even with the Eye rune equipped I was only getting blood vials...
Currents ascending the Loft. Might move on to the final bosses after the boss here. Am I really missing anything if I skip the Frontier? If there's a way to get through it super quick then I will do it. If I can just make it to the boss there, super quick, then I'd be up for it.
Cannon Goose
Member
So, is there a way to farm Insight?
These damn leeches in the upper cathedral ward had bleed me dry of insight...
I remember that those crawling creatures in the Yharnam sewers give Insight, but even with the Eye rune equipped I was only getting blood vials...
Chalice Dungeons have tons of bosses, so they're a decent way of farming Insight. You'll get some for entering the boss fog and then more for beating it.
Last night I beat
, so I should have beaten every single boss besides
.
Quick advice since I haven't touched Chalice Dungeons at all yet: should I try them now or they don't matter and I can try finishing the main story first?
Ebrietas
Gehrman, i.e. the last one, I think: in the Hunter's dream everything's on fire and the Doll tells me that Gehrman is waiting for me by the great tree
Quick advice since I haven't touched Chalice Dungeons at all yet: should I try them now or they don't matter and I can try finishing the main story first?
Srey Plaughtered
Member
Chalice doesn't scale with NG so it doesn't matter. Have fun with
Gehrman and the best music in the game.
He got me thrice during NG+. Kosmic pain in the ass indeed.
Gehrman it is, then
even though I find it hard to believe his music will be better than Father G's. =p
Orochinagis
Member
So, is there a way to farm Insight?
These damn leeches in the upper cathedral ward had bleed me dry of insight...
I remember that those crawling creatures in the Yharnam sewers give Insight, but even with the Eye rune equipped I was only getting blood vials...
Entering zones, boss zones, killing bosses,coop bosses, entering chalices zones can get you insight.
Insight is not really an issue in the main storyline so far, you will get a lot of them doing chalices.
Yes and yes, chalices dont affect the main story in anyway, outside the platinum you can get rare equipment and gems there and the chalices dont reset in game plus since the chalices have their own difficulty
JadedWriter
Member
Dodge through his attacks.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Depth 4-5 Chalice Dungeons are pretty much NG+ in terms of difficulty level and blood echoes output. If you're still in NG, the amounts you gain will be obscene, haha.
JadedWriter
Member
That blood starved beast is a supreme pain in the ass.
So I completed this yesterday and am doing the chalice dungeons now. I think it's up there with Demons and Dark 1 as great games, but is there a lack of replayability? What I mean by that is I used the same weapon from start to finish, as well as armor. To me it seems like there's not any real differences between weapons and armor and you just go with what you prefer? Not a bad thing at all and I'll replay the game using a different weapon and armor set this time.
And one question, did anyone notice some enemies making a different sound when killing them? What was that?
And one question, did anyone notice some enemies making a different sound when killing them? What was that?
Thank you...it was still nerve wracking but for the final phase I just used bone marrow ash and kept my distance. That and BSB were two of the best fights in the game so far! Can't wait to try the defiled chalice, so far none of the BB bosses have been as intense as some of the Demon's and Dark ones and I love a really really intense boss fight.
I think this might be my first souls platinum...
I love you Miyazaki!
RepairmanJack
Member
Got the platinum today. 65 hours well spent.
may end up being one of my favorite fights.
Might dive into more CDs here and there but probably going to take a break until DLC.
The queen
Might dive into more CDs here and there but probably going to take a break until DLC.