I haven't seen anything about this but I would people mean that you need to be past a certain point in order to access like in Souls games. Don't think that you will be locked out if you are at the end game.
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I haven't seen anything about this but I would people mean that you need to be past a certain point in order to access like in Souls games. Don't think that you will be locked out if you are at the end game.
Weltall Zero
Member
"Nuisances"? Nuances?
Hey man!
The thing with BB is that it has a crazy percentage of optional content. Some is not hidden at all (and bypassing it is harder than seeing it), but other stuff is kind of less obvious. You already got the one I missed (Upper Cathedral). Did you visit Cainhurst?
I kind of agree it may be the best Soulborne game. I only doubt because I'm madly in love with Dark Souls and I think it still tops it in term of sheer variety of locales. But Bloodborne's gameplay is so ridiculously tight and polished you can see your reflection on it. It's frankly sugar for your hands. And I agree it simply has no lows, which is amazing.
Cool Ebrietas fight! You got her to half health taking no damage yourself! This might be the boss I'm most looking forward to replaying against with my alts, as I was too high leveled (missed the Upper Cathedral key until the endgame) and curbstomped her.
Edit: Since I killed Ebrietas by sticking close to her I never saw that beam spam attack. It's so cool with that swirly minigalaxy and the stars floating for a second before shooting towards you. Daughter of the Cosmos indeed.
Normally in Souls games you need to have reached some point to be able to go into the DLC (it was about half game for DS1). Any character from that point up to the end should be fair play, although the first few bosses in the DLC might be a bit easy if you're at the end. In DS the bosses in the DLC were progressively tuned level-wise from the point you could enter it to about vanilla endgame, so to maximize enjoyment you would switch back and forth between it and the main game.
FlowersisBritish
fleurs n'est pas britannique
Ah man, you know what would be hilarious? If the only way you can acess TOH was with the Yharnam stone. haha that would literally be the worst.
Off-Kilter
Banned
Ah ok. Thanks. Yeah I remember how it worked for Artorias of the Abyss. I fell into the hydra lake a couple of times
The reason why I asked is that some people in the DLC announcement thread were mentioning a point of no return (perhaps to do with
Gehrman being hostile at the very end
Weltall Zero
Member
Ah ok. Thanks. Yeah I remember how it worked for Artorias of the Abyss. I fell into the hydra lake a couple of times
The reason why I asked is that some people in the DLC announcement thread were mentioning a point of no return (perhaps to do with?) and I got a little nervous.Gehrman being hostile at the very end
Calling that one a point of no return is a bit of a misnomer, considering the only things that change is the Hunter's Dream being
visually on fire
Gehrman
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
Daughter of the Cosmos is a jerk. Though watching a couple videos today has given me ideas when I get home. I guess after her I'll leap into Amgydala. Then go further into the Nightmare. When should I stop? I am already chopping up the little knight guys after unlocking the shortcut behind that Hunter.
I don't want to redo this all before November.
I don't want to redo this all before November.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
"Nuisances"? Nuances?
I'm going to blame predicative text rather than my poor grandma.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
I'm thinking it might be used for the true DLC ending.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
My man! I'm in the latter probably 2 or 3 hours, but I'm going to hang back and do some side content. I love it. It edged into my top 5 GOAT. Now to go backwards and clear out the older Souls games...
A handful yeah. Frankly, I didn't find them all that stimulating ;_; I wish I could just fight all the bosses that only exist within them in like a boss rush mode or something.
I did kill the Watchdog of the Old Lords on my second try which I'd heard was a really tough one for people. I also didn't have any trouble with Vicar Amelia which tends to be a sticking point- the threaded cane is really well suited to the fight. That goddamn hunter, I had to retry sooooooo many times. His gun could kill me in one shot from anything lower than full health.
Hey hey.Hey man!
The thing with BB is that it has a crazy percentage of optional content. Some is not hidden at all (and bypassing it is harder than seeing it), but other stuff is kind of less obvious. You already got the one I missed (Upper Cathedral). Did you visit Cainhurst?
The optional stuff is definitely great, yeah. I couldn't believe it when I learned that all of Old Yharnam was optional, I spent so much time there. Blew my mind.And yeah, I CRUSHED Cainhurst, fantastic area. Here's my Logarius fight, the only boss in the game I killed with the cane solely in cane mode (struggled against him using a whip). The first enemy you come across there too, holy hell, what an absolutely nightmarish design in every way. Even after farming them 100 times they can still intimidate and even kill me sometimes.
I could definitely see saying that Dark Souls has the best world and level design, especially all the "no way" moments connecting back to Firelink. I love it like crazy too obviously. BB just blows my mind in terms of consistency. Like, I struggle to think of what the "lesser parts" are supposed to be. Even the bosses that weren't all that special in terms of the fights themselves were really cool thematically or in terms of the setting (Micolash was so unexpected!).
After many many many attempts learning all her moves, lol.
Was that the Watchdog on the Defiled chalice? Watchdog is one of those bosses that popup three or four times in the dungeons.
Red Liquorice
Member
This bastard with the gun on the clocktower, can I push him off or something? I'm having a tough time going toe-to-toe.
Also the Cleric Beast fight is awful. I knew this before even going in to it, but if you lock on it just becomes a shitshow with the camera. There are other moments like this in Souls, but this is one of the worst I can remember. I left the fight and will come back when I've upgraded my weapon and the fight doesn't take so long.
Still not leveling up. I don't think this will be a "SL1" run, but I'll go as long as I can without leveling.
I remember reading there's something about wearing a certain outfit to de-aggro him, but I don't think I have it yet
Also the Cleric Beast fight is awful. I knew this before even going in to it, but if you lock on it just becomes a shitshow with the camera. There are other moments like this in Souls, but this is one of the worst I can remember. I left the fight and will come back when I've upgraded my weapon and the fight doesn't take so long.
Still not leveling up. I don't think this will be a "SL1" run, but I'll go as long as I can without leveling.
He usually falls down by himself.
Red Liquorice
Member
Really? Do you mean from him jumping around whilst you're up there, or randomly when you're on the ground? When I get to the top of the ladder it seems scripted that he turns around because I can tilt the camera up and stay out of sight forever, but as soon as I take that last rung up but am still 'out of sight' (i.e. lower than roof level) he turns around waiting for me.
At one point I had him right on the edge and was wailing on him, mashing R1 and it seemed like there was an invisible wall because he didn't fall down so I just backed off.
My dude has the most girlish scream too and he's 'mature'!
If you keep shooting him as soon as you climb the ladder you ought to be able to just knock him off right then
hell no, just the first time one.
You haven't beaten the one people think is tough then lol
Hahaha
Sometimes he'll fall from over-zealous dodging.
If you're having trouble, you can leave him,
come back later from another route and even befriend him.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
But there are some good bosses in there. One of the toughest in the entire game lurks within the dungeon of beasts. If you've only done a handful of chalices then I don't think you've gotten to the Defiled chalice, which is where the "hard" version of the Watchdog lies. But anyway, it's good to see you enjoy this game( DestinyGaf shoutout!) as much as I have.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Shery baby!
Yeah, not played much at all myself but really impressed. I only managed to get the (I presume) first shortcut open but it took ages. Need to get the Threaded Pimp Cane combos and visceral attacks under my fingers a bit, then I'll be laughing.
Felt guilty leaving MGSV, so I'll wait till I finish that before getting proper stuck in.
Red Liquorice
Member
Cool thanks. I actually noticed I missed a path, so I need to go and explore that first, then I'll deal with the little shit.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
Grinded about 63,000 echoes last night to get the Chikage and Logarius' Wheel, then grinded another 60,000 to level my blood tinge high enough to use the damn Chikage. Oh my Cosmos. This silly sword is all I ever want to use now.
Weltall Zero
Member
I don't think you're supposed to use the lock on at all times, and larger (or worse, flying) bosses are the ones where you shouldn't. Particularly because it locks on to their mass center which usually isn't the best way to attack them, hitting them on the face or hands usually makes fights much easier, especially for those of them that get staggered.
For some reason they clicked a bit more with me later on (circa layer 3). The first ones are probably the most boring.
Hey hey.
And yeah, I CRUSHED Cainhurst, fantastic area. Here's my Logarius fight, the only boss in the game I killed with the cane solely in cane mode (struggled against him using a whip). The first enemy you come across there too, holy hell, what an absolutely nightmarish design in every way. Even after farming them 100 times they can still intimidate and even kill me sometimes.
Yep, probably the single most terrifying normal enemies in the whole of Bloodborne. They even use them as a visceral attack deterrant on later Chalice Dungeons (if you kill enemies with a visceral attack, next time you come back there'll be one of them licking the blood off the floor), and it's telling that the thought actually gives pause before using viscerals. Nightmare fuel in both appearance and challenge.
If you did Cairnhurst and Upper Cathedral I guess that's it for major optional places. It's funny how Old Yharnam is technically optional but I doubt anyone actually skipped it the first time they played, since it's so much easier to find than the actual path to progress.
Micolash was something else indeed, and yeah, no one boss felt uninteresting or filler. Hell, no one zone did. I guess that's why I jumped into NG+ and alts immediately after finishing it, there's no zone that I dread revisiting.
JadedWriter
Member
That transform attack is the best way to start a battle, it's one of my favorites in the game.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
It causes fast poisoning, right? Also, the name is so clever.
Chikage (千景
literally means "Thousands Views", however if you separated the word into Chi Kage (血影, it means "Blood Shadow".Shall we find elevation by eye or blood, old friend?
JadedWriter
Member
From what I've heard it can, don't think I've seen it actually happen since a good amount of enemies in the game can't be poisoned. The main thing about Chikage is that the transformed mode gets a damage bonus from the bloodtinge stat and it hits pretty god damn hard actually. I love it for the Ruroni Kenshin move set. My second hunter has red hair so I'm mentally just going "hiten mitsurugi..."It causes fast poisoning, right? Also, the name is so clever.
Chikage (千景
Shall we find elevation by eye or blood, old friend?
Weltall Zero
Member
It causes fast poisoning, right? Also, the name is so clever.
Chikage (千景
Shall we find elevation by eye or blood, old friend?
That's neat! My below-beginner level Japanese was enough to get the "blood shadow" meaning, but not the other.
SoldnerKei
Member
that ain't a reverse-blade thou P:
but now it seems like I have a good reason to try out the Chikage haha
I would love if you could cut enemies with those weapons thou, getting some beasts cut in half would look pretty wicked
Melchiah
Member
I decided to start a 3rd playthrough with a new character, partly for the upcoming expansion, and partly because a friend of mine just started playing the game, which made me want to experience the game anew as well.
I went through all of Central Yharnam, and beat CB and FG without dying once, although both of the fights had few close calls. The past playthroughs certainly made a difference, compared to how I struggled the first time. FG is still intimidating to me though, perhaps because the feeling of dread when I faced him the first time still lingers.
Videos of the fights:
CB at level 10 - https://youtu.be/DdCFId1QO3o
FG at level 17 - https://youtu.be/AaqgdS4WFm0
Still sticking with the Threaded Cane. It fits the mature teacher character I created, and I just love to swing it.
I went through all of Central Yharnam, and beat CB and FG without dying once, although both of the fights had few close calls. The past playthroughs certainly made a difference, compared to how I struggled the first time. FG is still intimidating to me though, perhaps because the feeling of dread when I faced him the first time still lingers.
Videos of the fights:
CB at level 10 - https://youtu.be/DdCFId1QO3o
FG at level 17 - https://youtu.be/AaqgdS4WFm0
Still sticking with the Threaded Cane. It fits the mature teacher character I created, and I just love to swing it.
JadedWriter
Member
Yeah being able to cut off parts would be fucking insane in this game, though knowing Bloodborne they'd just turn into sickles and either keep cutting you or the limbs would just crawl along the floor and either attack you or reattach themselves. Would kill for a Gattotsu thrusting attack.
Weltall Zero
Member
That Gascoine fight was just beautiful. Such perfect dodging during his beast phase, damn. I didn't even know you could parry him, at that point I usually just spam molotovs. I also never thought of taking the fight upstairs for the last stage, which is obviously the smart thing to do considering tombstones no longer protect but rather hinder you. I learned a lot from that video, thanks!
My Arcane/Skill character is also an old professor, you can make them quite cool in this game. He's barely a few hours in, I've got to play a bit more, especially considering today's reveal that the Bowblade is Arcane/Skill.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
Is it known that standing on the trap door in Byrgenwerth while ringing a sinister bell cancels it out (X on the icon) ? Got to be a DLC entrance surely ......
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
That's neat! My below-beginner level Japanese was enough to get the "blood shadow" meaning, but not the other.
I'm impressed! I love the language and have always been fascinated culture. Visiting the country is definitely on my bucket list.
I love how flowery the language is and how all words and names mean something.
Melchiah
Member
That Gascoine fight was just beautiful. Such perfect dodging during his beast phase, damn. I didn't even know you could parry him, at that point I usually just spam molotovs. I also never thought of taking the fight upstairs for the last stage, which is obviously the smart thing to do considering tombstones no longer protect but rather hinder you. I learned a lot from that video, thanks!
My Arcane/Skill character is also an old professor, you can make them quite cool in this game. He's barely a few hours in, I've got to play a bit more, especially considering today's reveal that the Bowblade is Arcane/Skill.
Thanks, but I think I got lucky with some of the dodges. =) I also used molotovs for the 3rd phase on my first playthrough, but later on I learned (possibly from here) that parrying works very well against him. Nice to know I could help someone else in turn.
Here's a pic of the old lady teacher, who replaced the girl I started with.
I used mostly the presets, as I didn't want to use too much time on the creating process.
Oh, the Bowblade is arcane. Damn, I thought I'd leave that stat unlevelled once again, might have to change my plans. Thanks for the heads up.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Fuck yeah old ladies! They are never ever game protagonists, so I always make at least one of those in Souls games now.
I had an old druidess/pagan priestess type as my hexer in Dark Souls 2 (thinking of remaking her in Scholar, even), and I have a large build* middle-aged brown-skinned woman (like a sort of aging amazon) as my strength-focused character in Bloodborne. Here she is:
* Too bad the character creator doesn't really show much difference, Dragon's Dogma is better for that.
I had an old druidess/pagan priestess type as my hexer in Dark Souls 2 (thinking of remaking her in Scholar, even), and I have a large build* middle-aged brown-skinned woman (like a sort of aging amazon) as my strength-focused character in Bloodborne. Here she is:
* Too bad the character creator doesn't really show much difference, Dragon's Dogma is better for that.
Melchiah
Member
Kinda funny to see old ladies carrying huge axes and hammers. The cane is a good choice for the ladies, who want to hunt with style.
The mature characters also fit well the recent YouPorn statistics about PS4 users.
JadedWriter
Member
Damn Cleric Beast made you work for it. Oddly enough I never try to go hand to hand with Father G Doge. I usually just music box stun him now these days. Did him dirty when I beat him in NG+ with the Chikage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7XIGCTQb2g
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Oh my goodness...Kinda funny to see old ladies carrying huge axes and hammers. The cane is a good choice for the ladies, who want to hunt with style.
The mature characters also fit well the recent YouPorn statistics about PS4 users.
GIANKRATOS
Member
I Know how that feels man... It happened to me too, i was more than half the way through the game and played a lot of chalice dungeons (sigh)... I had to restart everything.
Have you checked your cloud saves?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
She's an old warrior past her prime, but she can still rock that axe!
What the.... :|The mature characters also fit well the recent YouPorn statistics about PS4 users.
JadedWriter
Member
I'm honestly surprised YouPorn is that popular. Makes me feel like I'm missing something. Finally perused that a bit, somebody needs to make a Bloodborne character that looks like Katsuni.Kinda funny to see old ladies carrying huge axes and hammers. The cane is a good choice for the ladies, who want to hunt with style.
The mature characters also fit well the recent YouPorn statistics about PS4 users.
The chalice dungeons are pretty boring. I'm trying to get to
and I'm kind of hating every second of it haha. :| The dungeons themselves are not particularly hard, they're just boring and a huge drag. Most of the bosses so far have been fun, it's just a huge drag.
Yharnam queen
Dude! I just did and 99% of my playthrough are back! (the sl1 file didn't make it , but who cares?)
I didn't manually put the saves on the ps plus so I have know Idea what's going on
thanx man
Melchiah
Member
Yeah, there's probably a better way, but I've gotten used to using the whip form from a distance, and I missed him with few molotovs. I've never actually tried fighting him up-close like the other large beasts.
You really went aggressively against FG, and it worked well. I've only tried the music box once myself, and it didn't work very well then. I think it's more fun to fight the beast form hand to hand.
I was referring to this amusing thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1112749
I've never streamed that kind of stuff on a console either.
I'd like to see Dahlia from Silent Hill and Quistis from FFVIII in Bloodborne myself.
The latter would go well with the Threaded Cane.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Is there a way of setting up Molotovs so I don't have to go into a menu? I'm sure there is, I'm just not getting it.
JadedWriter
Member
A +10 Chikage will put down many NG+ bosses pretty well, the only ones that gave me a problem so far were Cleric Beast and Vicar Amelia, she handed me my ass so many times that I switched to the cane if I'm not mistaken, battle was fucking crazy when I finally put her ass down.Yeah, there's probably a better way, but I've gotten used to using the whip form from a distance, and I missed him with few molotovs. I've never actually tried fighting him up-close like the other large beasts.
You really went aggressively against FG, and it worked well. I've only tried the music box once myself, and it didn't work very well then. I think it's more fun to fight the beast form hand to hand.
I've never streamed that kind of stuff on a console either.
I'd like to see Dahlia from Silent Hill and Quistis from FFVIII in Bloodborne myself.
The latter would go well with the Threaded Cane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLVav1frB3g
Dat Quistis Trepe she's one of my favorite Final Fantasy women and it seems like she gets no love at all, she'd love the cane, would probably strut into every battle with it.