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Bloodborne |OT++++| Now with Trusty Patches
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Orochinagis
Member
Big enemies with big hitboxes have some crappy hitboxes when they perform a heavy attack passing throught walls because the move was already in motion when it saw you before you take cover and they cant cancel the move.
That spell is for bloodtinge builds though as it requires 18 BT to use.
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Yeah this has happened to me occasionally. Don't really know why it happens but usually you get summoned when the host already is in the arena.
HORRORSHØW
Member
the other two starter weapons are definitely easier to murder things with.
Cane is probably hardest to use of the starter weapons. It is really good weapon though.
Cannon Goose
Member
The cane really shines once you realise that the sword mode is terrible and the whip mode is incredible.
Basically.
If only you could visceral with the whip mode I'd have no reason at all to go back to cane mode.
Robot Pants
Member
Relaxed Muscle
Member
It has a higher learning curve, but is a great weapon.
Cool, I got it yesterday, but I didn't even check it, assuming it was arcane.
I don't know man. the sword was very great for me in pvp, and in pve it can be good against the bran suckers(r2 charge attack)
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Cane mode is very fast, although it's range is very short. But you can stunlock some enemies and whip mode L1 attack transformation is deadly.
The really strong point of the wepaon is that mode modes suits each other quite well.
The really strong point of the wepaon is that mode modes suits each other quite well.
Red Liquorice
Member
Haha! This is great
You will get hit if you use it and didn't use it and didn't backstep as well lol.
Red Liquorice
Member
Fun times with NPC summons - I just summoned one of the new NPCs for the Watchdog fight in the first Chalice Dungeon and enter the fog door, the NPC is already inside the boss room (!) but doesn't move from the doorway sandwiching me between them and the fog gate. The Watchdog of course does his charge attack which whacks the NPC out of the boss room back outside the fog door, but freeing my character. I then kill the boss solo and as the fog gate disipates I see the NPC is running to get inside the boss room. Thanks dude!
thefatness16
Banned
The exact same thing happened to me a few minutes ago.
Red Liquorice
Member
Very well-played. You even got the backstab on his transformation.
Marty-esque
Member
Very nice.
cyber_ninja
Member
Thanks for your responses. I also just realized that I have a backed up save right before the final Boss fight, which means I can get to DLC right away.
Perfection
get2sammyb
Member
I have a question about Bloodborne chalice dungeons. I absolutely adore the game, but I'd consider myself a below average player. I'd quite like to get the Platinum Trophy -- have every other one -- but the defiled chalice dungeon is really kicking my ass.
Here's what I'd like to know: I still haven't gone into NG+, so once I'm done with the DLC, would it be worth my time continuing my character in NG+ and replaying a chunk of the campaign until I've gone up to a higher level? I'm currently 130 or so which is apparently about where I need to be to do the defiled chalice dungeon, but like I say, I'm a below average player. I'd imagine if I could get to level 150 or something, I'd have a better shot.
If I do adopt this route, does the difficulty of the chalice dungeons increase in NG+? Will my current progress carry across? Other than get the Living String, is there anything else I need to be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Here's what I'd like to know: I still haven't gone into NG+, so once I'm done with the DLC, would it be worth my time continuing my character in NG+ and replaying a chunk of the campaign until I've gone up to a higher level? I'm currently 130 or so which is apparently about where I need to be to do the defiled chalice dungeon, but like I say, I'm a below average player. I'd imagine if I could get to level 150 or something, I'd have a better shot.
If I do adopt this route, does the difficulty of the chalice dungeons increase in NG+? Will my current progress carry across? Other than get the Living String, is there anything else I need to be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Orochinagis
Member
Chalices have its own difficulty apart from the main game, Ng+ dont afect chalices at all
get2sammyb
Member
Awesome, thanks - that's something! I can't imagine anything being harder than this chalice dungeon to be honest... :O
I'll try going into NG+ and grinding out a few more levels once I've done the DLC then. I will not let this beat me! XD
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
You guys weren't joking about Ludwig's Holy Blade, this thing is a beast.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Just a consideration:
There's a soft cap on all stats after a certain point, after putting 50 points in most of them, you won't get a real benefit, so if you're VIT stat is around 50, is not worth grinding for more levels.
If you want to beat Defiled dungeon at that point you will have more chances with help. Since the last patch added NPC summons and a more straightlined way to co-op on CD, you might want to try that.
I am logged in as online but am not finding any one to summon me. But I'm messing around with chalices and am not sure how best to get summoned there. The short root wasn't finding anyone.
Holy shit Simon's Bowblade is hands down the coolest videogame weapon I've seen! 😱
must..resist...urge of making a legolas character..
Weird. I guess there are some network issues now. Wanted to do some coop to get more Echoes but I guess I won't be doing that now.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Don't resist... You know you want to.
Update on the missus - she's made her way through Old Yarnham and I've told her to leave Djura for now so we can befriend him later, got all the way to Blood-Starved Beast, summoned Old Hunter Vileblood Hunter Alfred (glowing red summoning sign was definitely different to what I had when I played) and got her in one go.
Wasn't a very impressive fight to be honest, Fire Paper + Alfred made it very quick and not all that hard for her, so it wasn't worth recording it (not that I'd actually set up the YouTube uploading anyway). She picked up the Third Umbilical Cord after I showed her how to drop to the Abandoned Old Workshop, and next I'll see how she handles Vicar Amelia (and get the YouTube recording thing set up beforehand).
Does Eileen appear by the Cathedral Ward after you kill Vicar Amelia but before touching Laurence's skull, or can you touch the skull anyway and still find her outside the Cathedral Ward?
Wasn't a very impressive fight to be honest, Fire Paper + Alfred made it very quick and not all that hard for her, so it wasn't worth recording it (not that I'd actually set up the YouTube uploading anyway). She picked up the Third Umbilical Cord after I showed her how to drop to the Abandoned Old Workshop, and next I'll see how she handles Vicar Amelia (and get the YouTube recording thing set up beforehand).
Does Eileen appear by the Cathedral Ward after you kill Vicar Amelia but before touching Laurence's skull, or can you touch the skull anyway and still find her outside the Cathedral Ward?
Why not go to Hemwick before Amelia? You can get weapon upgraded to +6 and get ability to use runes from there.
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I have had easier time with other starter weapons when fighting agains CB. That being said it should be fine for the fight. Molotov Cocktails and Pungent Blood Cocktails are also useful for that fight. You can also ignore him for the time being and explore all of Central Yharnam.
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Uploaded some videos to YT.
Cleric Beast
Vicar Amelia
Darkbeast Paarl
Seriously I don't understand how you should manage your camera during Paarl fight. Camera spins so much when locked on but when not locked the camera doesn't turn fast enough manually.
It unlocks after Vicar Amelia. You need to touch the skull and then you get the item you need in order to access the DLC.
I decided to pick this back up in new game+ to get ready for the DLC and while I remember a lot of the map layouts and enemies patterns, I don't remember how I should be building my character stat-wise at this point.
I'm lvl.103 using a Saw Cleaver + 10 build.
VIT 40
END 30
STR 40
SKL 22
Bloodtinge 6
Arcane 15
Right now I'm getting +3 atk for each +1 to SKL versus +2 atk for each +1 to STR. So I'm just putting points into SKL for now. But should I be upping my VIT/END more now that I'm in NG+? These were basically the stats I had at the end of the normal game and I was super overpowered, but now in NG+ I'm more normal and I just wanna get stats to the right level to take on the DLC area in NG+.
Also I'm at Cathedral Ward warp point with the way up to Amelia unlocked, and I also have a warp point in Old Yarnham and haven't done OY yet in NG+ (was mainly speedrunning to get back to CW). Beating Amelia on NG+ is gonna be...challenging ^^; Wonder if I should do OY and Blood-starved Beast first for some more levels.
I'm lvl.103 using a Saw Cleaver + 10 build.
VIT 40
END 30
STR 40
SKL 22
Bloodtinge 6
Arcane 15
Right now I'm getting +3 atk for each +1 to SKL versus +2 atk for each +1 to STR. So I'm just putting points into SKL for now. But should I be upping my VIT/END more now that I'm in NG+? These were basically the stats I had at the end of the normal game and I was super overpowered, but now in NG+ I'm more normal and I just wanna get stats to the right level to take on the DLC area in NG+.
Also I'm at Cathedral Ward warp point with the way up to Amelia unlocked, and I also have a warp point in Old Yarnham and haven't done OY yet in NG+ (was mainly speedrunning to get back to CW). Beating Amelia on NG+ is gonna be...challenging ^^; Wonder if I should do OY and Blood-starved Beast first for some more levels.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
So I was doing some coop and and suddenly Vicar Amelia's health bar appeared while I was in the Forbidden Woods. That was odd.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Gahh avoid the spoiler thread at all costs. Go in with the blind mentality of your first walkthrough.
multiplayer update :
After weeks of not getting any summons whatsoever in various locations and invasions only in Mergo's Loft Middle I am now getting a steady stream of summons to fight vicar amelia. I can also still invade frequently in Mergo's Loft Middle but pretty much every other location is still dead besides a few invasions I was able to get in the forbidden woods.
After weeks of not getting any summons whatsoever in various locations and invasions only in Mergo's Loft Middle I am now getting a steady stream of summons to fight vicar amelia. I can also still invade frequently in Mergo's Loft Middle but pretty much every other location is still dead besides a few invasions I was able to get in the forbidden woods.
JadedWriter
Member
Is it just me or do arcane builds bleed through bullets?
Very much so. You have to work really really hard to get a good arcane build going and it pretty much requires the chalice dungeons. And you spend all that effort just to make a somewhat equivalent build to the STR/DEX/BLD builds. It's better as a supplement rather than a full on build, I feel.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Spells eat bullets like crazy. Especially if you plan on parrying as well.
JadedWriter
Member
Well I'm technically a split Skill/Arcane build. Character is pretty decent for the most part. It's a pretty good build when I need fire damage thrown around cause I have the fire gem on a +6 LHB, but I think my main weapons are the cane and the BoM now.