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I bet they just want reviewers to focus on the multiplayer stuff and really cover it in their reviews. I really doubt it's a grand conspiracy, but you never know, I guess.
Bungie speaks out on Destiny review delay.
- Thread starter Mushroomer25
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I bet they just want reviewers to focus on the multiplayer stuff and really cover it in their reviews. I really doubt it's a grand conspiracy, but you never know, I guess.
DarkChronic
Member
A little discouraging considering I planned on playing a majority of this solo. I hope the story/lore ends up being good. (lol)
Regardless, I'm excited for tomorrow.
Regardless, I'm excited for tomorrow.
I'll never understand this mentality.
Mushroomer25
Member
People don't want to buy a game without knowing about it first?
I preordered Aliens CM only to be duped by Gearbox and Sega by the E3 footage. I will never EVER buy a game that hides its reviews at launch.
TharpDaddy
Member
I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to compare Destiny (which people have played and enjoyed in alpha and beta) to Aliens CM. I can understand the mentality, though. You want to be sure of your purchase.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
$60 is a lot for some people and they want to make sure that certain concerns of theirs are addressed.
There is literally nothing to take issue with someone wanting to make an informed purchase. Sure, reviews aren't an exact measurement of the actual quality of a product, but they can inform the consumer about certain things.
Haha? What?
You dont understand people wanting reviews of a product before purchasing them? Do you understand basic math? How to walk? These are all kind of fundamentals.
Every game I've bought for years has been without reading any reviews.
No need to be rude.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I understand the reasoning if Destiny was an MMO, but Destiny doesn't really require MASSIVE groups, so could not reviewers have 3 players play the game for maximum effect? Since, after all, the co-op stuff has a 3 player max aside from raids. It's not like I'm not getting the game, but it would have been interesting to see what reviewers had to say about the content in a low-population player base as well (and, again, the group size for most of the co-op is 3, so that's totally doable for most reviewers I would assume).
As far as the Crucible goes, that's just regular matchmaking multiplayer which shouldn't have any reason to delay reviews for that. Even raids can only be done with friends (even though the group size is 6). Public events are maybe where the population would matter somewhat, but that doesn't seem to be a critical component of Destiny at all.
As far as the Crucible goes, that's just regular matchmaking multiplayer which shouldn't have any reason to delay reviews for that. Even raids can only be done with friends (even though the group size is 6). Public events are maybe where the population would matter somewhat, but that doesn't seem to be a critical component of Destiny at all.
That wasn't what I meant.
Enough people have played this, the feedback is already out there for those that want it.
But the feedback of the internet isn't sufficient, now you've got to wait for a "reviewer" to tell you if it's any good.
Seems silly to me.
Spine_Ripper
Member
Math? Walking? Do you understand that what you are presenting is a horrible.... Nevermind. I am tired of asking people to think.
Played Alpha and Beta..loved it. Can't wait for tomorrow. Also i do this with every expansion for WoW and even without a review it is fucking great. Vanilla Diablo 3 was different and that was a mess but Reaper of Souls redeemed the whole game without reading a review at all.
A 75 isn't 'bad' regardless, but I doubt it's getting anywhere near that low just because of everything about it. The publisher, the developer, the bundles, the marketing, the hype, everything.
MMaRsu
Member
Actually they clearly said its not an mmo.
Mushroomer25
Member
Except people have only played a beta - not the full game. If Destiny's been out for a month and the community has expressed plenty of opinions - feel free to listen to those opinions.
But the fact is, it isn't. There was a promotional beta, designed to increase preorder numbers. As far as Activision is concerned, that's all you should get to know before you pay for the game.
People have only played part of the game. We don't know how much content there is in the final product and how, if at all, the game changes later into a play through.
lol, people need to dead this idea.
nah, tbh, I doubt reviews will harm/help the game. It's gonna be one of those games where if everybody is online playing it, you'll probably pick it up, too. I can only see reviews doing good/harm to those on the fence about it already.
Fbh
Member
I don't see the issue with this.
As far as I know the game had a public beta on 360, X1, Ps3 and Ps4.
You could try the thing for several days and see by yourself if it looks like something you will enjoy.
If after that you still need another person to tell you if you should buy the game than that's almost a bit sad.
If people are worried about how much content there will be, well, they'll just have to wait 1-2 weeks or so.
As far as I know the game had a public beta on 360, X1, Ps3 and Ps4.
You could try the thing for several days and see by yourself if it looks like something you will enjoy.
If after that you still need another person to tell you if you should buy the game than that's almost a bit sad.
If people are worried about how much content there will be, well, they'll just have to wait 1-2 weeks or so.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Yup, and even if they classified it as one, it's still obvious that Destiny isn't an MMO. It may have MMO aspects, but the part of an MMO which requires reviewers to wait until after release for them is the reliance on the players to make the experience but Destiny doesn't rely on massive amounts of players. It relies on less players than most matchmaking multiplayer games (like Halo) which are still reviewed before release day.
I'm really not expecting the reviews to be bad, but it makes no real sense to delay reviews for Destiny for the reasons given here by Bungie unless the real reasons were something that does require players that Bungie hasn't even talked about or revealed yet.
Stop with Titanfall bull shit. They are not comparable nor similar situations.
Markot figured it out, Destiny is objectively shit and everyone who likes it is a shill. Glad that's our of the way.
Well, it doesn't have a whole lot of room to change. The beta introduced pretty much all of the basic gameplay structures, the only remaining questions are the quality of the content, the endgame, and how well the whole thing comes together.
Well, it doesn't have a whole lot of room to change. The beta introduced pretty much all of the basic gameplay structures, the only remaining questions are the quality of the content, the endgame, and how well the whole thing comes together.
My son and I preordered Destiny long ago. And quite honestly, I was a bit disappointed in the beta. The Halo feel was there, graphics were nice, but it seemed on the bland overall.
I'm still getting it and sure I'll enjoy it. But I could easily see the game getting around a 7.5. Good but not amazing.
Oh, and for those saying Titanfall didn't live up to the hype, at least for me, I felt a rush playing that game for the first time (and still love it). But didn't get anywhere near that feeling on this one.
Not hating because I'm still getting this. I just don't think it will live up to the hype.
I'm still getting it and sure I'll enjoy it. But I could easily see the game getting around a 7.5. Good but not amazing.
Oh, and for those saying Titanfall didn't live up to the hype, at least for me, I felt a rush playing that game for the first time (and still love it). But didn't get anywhere near that feeling on this one.
Not hating because I'm still getting this. I just don't think it will live up to the hype.
I totally said that. Nice icon.
A lot of complexity in MMOs isn't apparent until later game content, it is not known yet if that will be the case for this game. It can stay simple like the beta or it can develop into something more complex. Reviews could easily touch on this and amount of content.
Usually we don't have dozens of individual hours on a game beforehand, though. This time we do.
Honey Bunny
Member
He didn't lie though
In a beta. Of an unfinished product. That didnt include the whole game.
I'm certain you realize that this isnt the same as Titanfall and just want to play devils advocate?
So people loved an unfinished product but somehow they will hate more content and polished graphics/controls? Please explain this logic. This isnt wasnt a preview at some gameshow. Many people put many hours (I put~40) into 1 single player level and 2 multiplayer levels. I put more hours into the beta than most SP games that I own. If you really think you are going to get duped you can wait 1 day or a few hours as this will have a big midnight launch
Call me old-fashioned, but I'd prefer to discover this kind of stuff on my own through actually playing it.
All I want to know are how are the production values, is the gameplay tight and what type of game is it.
I understand I may be in the minority, though.
I played an alpha/beta for forty hours and never once felt like moving on to another game.
I simply don't put that kind of time into any games anymore, so I was absolutely shocked when I saw how much time I'd accumulated at the end of the beta.
Of course, they damage control so people won't cancel their order.
The same happened with Sims 4, no reviews before launch date.
How is it not the same just like Watch Dog too ?
They brough 300 millons $ on the table just for their marketting of that game just to create hype.
No one bring 300 millions $ on the table for marketting for nothing.
Stop thinking they're saint who made the greatest game that the galaxy ever saw.
Hype can be created because humans can be manipulated.
You like the game, good for you but don't say that hype can't be created, please.
When you have such a widely available Alpha/Beta the value of a day one review is severely diminished. In the absence of personal experience with the game I could see this bothering me but since they gave me ample time with he game to make my purchase decision I value that much more than the words of some person I don't know on a gaming news site.
Also, didn't Urk pretty much explain this already in the first thread?
Also, didn't Urk pretty much explain this already in the first thread?
That's not really fair. Destiny got an alpha and a beta so people know for the most part what to expect. Now if you were not in either I can understand your position on the matter.
It could also get worse 50% of the way into the game like a lot of other MMOs. I feel like that happens way more often than MMOs getting better, with all due respect to this game not being a standard MMO and what have you.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
Makes sense, I've seen a number of games get low scores due to reviewers having limited or no time with the online portion of a game.
On one hand I love the game from the beta so I don't need to read any reviews to know I will buy it (pre-ordered).
On the other hand the excuse it total bullshit and I imagine will get used from here on out by any dev/pub who have any online component at all in their game despite the fact that circumstances will likely be totally different.
On the other hand the excuse it total bullshit and I imagine will get used from here on out by any dev/pub who have any online component at all in their game despite the fact that circumstances will likely be totally different.
ya, I address this in the next post.
Either way, I was on blackout until the beta, so I heard nothing at all. Once I played the beta, I thought it was obvious that Destiny was designed around an mmo formula. And apparently, it is, but Bungie doesn't want us to classify it as that sooooo... Ya, they did say that it's not an mmo. But the game mechanics speak for themselves.
Discotheque
Banned
Beta was really fun and I'm excited to play the full game tomorrow but it's clear this game has a lot of room for improvement. Which they better address for the sequel or expansions at least:
- world felt barren and empty a lot of the time, needs NPCs and maybe more roaming players
- there is no story in this game, or whatever we got in the beta certainly wasn't trying. It's like no better than titanfall in this aspect and that's damn shameful for a bungie game
- more weapon variety is needed. Halo had so many cool weapons. This is just the standard pistol, rifle and machine guns with different models
- world felt barren and empty a lot of the time, needs NPCs and maybe more roaming players
- there is no story in this game, or whatever we got in the beta certainly wasn't trying. It's like no better than titanfall in this aspect and that's damn shameful for a bungie game
- more weapon variety is needed. Halo had so many cool weapons. This is just the standard pistol, rifle and machine guns with different models
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