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Bus Fight: Old White Guy V.S. Young Black Guy in an Arguement Over Racism

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YoungHav said:
and why are people saying old whitey didn't have the right to self defense? He was 100% in the right, he was attacked 1st!


Two Klan members make nigger jokes in the woods w/no blacks there to hear it. lol then it can't possibly be racist. Pretty dumb logic there.

We have already gone over all of this in the thread. The guy was born in 1943. With the way culture suddenly decides that something that has been acceptable for decades isnt anymore it is hard to get people that have been saying something one way their whole life to change the way they speak.

Dont be surprised if during your lifetime saying someone is "African-American" or "Black" or even "White" suddenly becomes unacceptable. How easy do you think it's going to be for you to suddenly stop saying those words?
 
Quick question: Would the video have had this much controversy if it was the other way around?

Black guy beats up old racist white guy? I don't think so.

BTW - The girl videotaping the ordeal doesn't help the situation saying "beat that white ass."
 

joelseph

Member
huacst21 said:
Get fucking over it. Racist old white guy beats up black guy, fucking deal with it.

The old white guy is a racist piece of shit but that wannabe gangsta thought he was all king shit and got a beating.

This is life, sometimes more often than not, assholes win.

No idea what your point is but your anger comes across clearly.
 

S1lent

Member
huacst21 said:
Quick question: Would the video have had this much controversy if it was the other way around?

Black guy beats up old racist white guy? I don't think so.

How would that be the other way around? It'd be the other way around if it was racist black guy beats up white guy.

The black guy is a punk, and an idiot, but he's not the one that comes off as a racist.
 
huacst21 said:
Quick question: Would the video have had this much controversy if it was the other way around?

Black guy beats up old racist white guy? I don't think so.

There is a video in this very thread of a white guy trying to start fights and acting like a jackass. Black guy (in a hospital gown for some reason) walks up and knocks him out. We all loved it.

No controversy over that one though. Why do you think that is?
 
joelseph said:
No idea what your point is but your anger comes across clearly.

:lol

Black guy goes to the front of the bus and takes a swing at racist white guy. White guy defends himself and beats that ass.

You crying like a little bitch saying white guy provokes the fight, when in reality, the black guy started it from the get go.

You let an old geezer get the better of you because of fucking words? Lame.

You deserve to get your ass beat for letting someone get to you like that.

Sticks and stones and all that.
 
S1lent said:
How would that be the other way around? It'd be the other way around if it was racist black guy beats up black guy.

The black guy is a punk, and an idiot, but he's not the one that comes off as a racist.

The other way around, I meant in the outcome of the fight.
 

Afrikan

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MidnightRider said:
Ie769.jpg

:lol :lol :lol :lol my co-workers rushed over to my cubical....haha they thought I was choking on my lunch.
 

YoungHav

Banned
Is the video really that controversial? I think its entertaining for the fact that a person near 70 kicked some idiots ass. If someone thinks old white guy is racist it doesn't change the fact that his physical actions were 100% right. If anything going by the comments in the youtube vid, racists are loving the video because a trash talking black guy got shut up. Rush Limbaugh is probably happy that "we're taking back our buses from the thugs!". This old fart needs a Late Night show appearance and is one of the best memes this yr, along with Amber Lamps. Amber just shot up to America's most sought out bachelorrette.
 

Sanjuro

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huacst21 said:
:lol

Black guy goes to the front of the bus and takes a swing at racist white guy. White guy defends himself and beats that ass.

You crying like a little bitch saying white guy provokes the fight, when in reality, the black guy started it from the get go.

You let an old geezer get the better of you because of fucking words? Lame.

You deserve to get your ass beat for letting someone get to you like that.

Sticks and stones and all that.
What happened to the junior next to your member?
 

Dennis

Banned
I <3 Memes said:
We have already gone over all of this in the thread. The guy was born in 1943. With the way culture suddenly decides that something that has been acceptable for decades isnt anymore it is hard to get people that have been saying something one way their whole life to change the way they speak.

Dont be surprised if during your lifetime saying someone is "African-American" or "Black" or even "White" suddenly becomes unacceptable. How easy do you think it's going to be for you to suddenly stop saying those words?
Stop making so much sense. Butthurt people in this thread have already decided the old white man is an Evil Racist (TM). He should've just let the black guy beat him up - you know to show how not-racist he is.
 

S1lent

Member
huacst21 said:
The other way around, I meant in the outcome of the fight.

Then of course there wouldn't be as much controversy...most people don't mind seeing racists get their asses beat.

That said, is this thing really all that controversial? Most people are praising the white guy as a hero, making tribute pictures, bumper stickers, etc. Which to me is kinda disgusting. They are both idiots, neither deserves praise.
 

joelseph

Member
huacst21 said:
:lol

Black guy goes to the front of the bus and takes a swing at racist white guy. White guy defends himself and beats that ass.

You crying like a little bitch saying white guy provokes the fight, when in reality, the black guy started it from the get go.

You let an old geezer get the better of you because of fucking words? Lame.

You deserve to get your ass beat for letting someone get to you like that.

Sticks and stones and all that.

Still no idea.
 

Sanjuro

Member
S1lent said:
Then of course there wouldn't be as much controversy...most people don't mind seeing racists get their asses beat.

That said, is this thing thing all that controversial? Most people are praising the white guy as a hero, making tribute pictures, bumper stickers, etc. Which to me is kinda disgusting. They are both idiots, neither deserves praise.
I wouldn't say he is a hero. He certainly is a legend though.
 
BTW - I'm not white, I'm half-mexican/half-filipino if that matters.

I can't tell you how many racials slurs I've been called in my life but I let it go. Why? Because I've seen too many times when the fight escalates into a shooting/stabbing and someone's dead.

It's better to let it go unless if someone attacked me first. Even then, I don't provoke fights or start shit to begin with.
 

S1lent

Member
I'm most confounded by the Amber Lamps thing. I mean, really guys? Go OUTSIDE. I'm sure you'll find a girl of equal or better attractiveness within 3 minutes.
 

YoungHav

Banned
DennisK4 said:
Stop making so much sense. Butthurt people in this thread have already decided the old white man is an Evil Racist (TM). He should've just let the black guy beat him up - you know to show how not-racist he is.
Hey strawman don't go outside for the next hr or so, the sun is still out.
 

joelseph

Member
DennisK4 said:
Stop making so much sense. Butthurt people in this thread have already decided the old white man is an Evil Racist (TM). He should've just let the black guy beat him up - you know to show how not-racist he is.

I love how people can't hide their feelings no matter how hard they try!
 

daw840

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S1lent said:
Then of course there wouldn't be as much controversy...most people don't mind seeing racists get their asses beat.

That said, is this thing really all that controversial? Most people are praising the white guy as a hero, making tribute pictures, bumper stickers, etc. Which to me is kinda disgusting. They are both idiots, neither deserves praise.

What? None of you have any idea what was said before this video started. None of you. The only thing racist that the white guy said was "chinaman" apparently, not that I quite understand how that is racist, probably just used as a description but that's not the point. Far to often people are waayyy to quick to pull the race card out, and it usually sounds just like what the black guy said at the beginning of the vid, "why it gotta be a black man shining shoes." Maybe the old guy was just fucking around with the dude and he took offense to it. I have been involved in these types of situations entirely too often. Hell, one time I made a comment that I liked Speedy Gonzalez and I was pissed that the show never aired anymore and this mexican guy got really REALLY fucking pissed at me for it. Accused me repeatedly of being racist and almost came to blows! I was able to calm the situation down, but still, some people pull that card at the slightest thing. Without knowing the initial stages of the conversation it is premature to call the white guy a "racist piece of shit."
 

siddx

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Reminds me of riding the bus everyday in Seattle. My first job there initially required a lot of standing around on the street. So I had a few conversations with the various personalities downtown, including a tall native american transvestite who was a little off in the head.

One day I read in stranger that she had assaulted a midget at a bus stop. Also recall reading an incident shortly before I left where Some blind girl had the shit beaten out of her on a bus by some crazy homeless guy.
Oh and the girl who got caught by the driver fucking two guys in the back of the bus.

So many memories, so many strange smells, so many shared alcoholic beverages with strangers that in afterthought might not have been a great idea.

Oh metro buses, how you entertain.

ps. White guy isn't racist, he said something racist. Big difference.
 

Dennis

Banned
joelseph said:
I love how people can't hide their feelings no matter how hard they try!
Yes, you immediately called out the old white guy for causing the whole incident. Quite revealing.
 
S1lent said:
Then of course there wouldn't be as much controversy...most people don't mind seeing racists get their asses beat.

That said, is this thing really all that controversial? Most people are praising the white guy as a hero, making tribute pictures, bumper stickers, etc. Which to me is kinda disgusting. They are both idiots, neither deserves praise.

They're both idiots but people crying that the racist white guy provoked the fight the whole time, when in the video it shows he even moved to the front of the bus to avoid the situation. Even though he kept shit-talking but the black guy does the same from his seat before he took a swing at the racist guy.
 
We don't know how the argument started, they're discussing the situation as the video comes on. I don't think the white guy is racist, and if he is, honestly? As a black man I'm too ashamed of Bryon to defend him. The white man won today, kids. But we don't have to like it.
 

S1lent

Member
daw840 said:
What? None of you have any idea what was said before this video started. None of you. The only thing racist that the white guy said was "chinaman" apparently, not that I quite understand how that is racist, probably just used as a description but that's not the point. Far to often people are waayyy to quick to pull the race card out, and it usually sounds just like what the black guy said at the beginning of the vid, "why it gotta be a black man shining shoes." Maybe the old guy was just fucking around with the dude and he took offense to it. I have been involved in these types of situations entirely too often. Hell, one time I made a comment that I liked Speedy Gonzalez and I was pissed that the show never aired anymore and this mexican guy got really REALLY fucking pissed at me for it. Accused me repeatedly of being racist and almost came to blows! I was able to calm the situation down, but still, some people pull that card at the slightest thing. Without knowing the initial stages of the conversation it is premature to call the white guy a "racist piece of shit."

-Asked a black guy to spit shine his shoes in a smug and condescending way
-When black guy takes offense, tries to prove he isn't racist by saying he'd be fine having another minority (a "Chinaman") do it too
-"Don't fuck with me BOY"
-In the second video, appears to yell out "cotton-pickin' mother fuckers!"

Dude is very likely racist, or at the very least is ignorant and racially insensitive.

Also, a side note, but I'm pretty sure the white guy originally was sitting in the front and then walked back to the back to talk to the black guy. This is why the black guy keeps telling him to go "back" to the front, and then he does.
 
huacst21 said:
They're both idiots but people crying that the racist white guy provoked the fight the whole time, when in the video it shows he even moved to the front of the bus to avoid the situation. Even though he kept shit-talking but the black guy does the same from his seat before he took a swing at the racist guy.

not to mention the fact the black guy continually threatened the white man saying he'd kick his ass. the white guy was only saying that he wouldn't be able to. and that if he tried, he'd slap the shit out of him. he gave him ample warning
 

benita

Banned
Sticks and stones man.

The old dude is probably racist and he probably said something offensive to the black dude.

Despite that, I don't know how anyone can come to any conclusion other than the black dude deserved to get his ass handed to him.

2 guys get into it, guy 1 moves away, guy 2 escalates the situation.

It's pretty fucking simple.
 
benita said:
Sticks and stones man.

The old dude is probably racist and he probably said something offensive to the black dude.

Despite that, I don't know how anyone can come to any conclusion other than the black dude deserved to get his ass handed to him.

2 guys get into it, guy 1 moves away, guy 2 escalates the situation.

It's pretty fucking simple.

If you put your hands on someone and get beat the fuck up, you brought that on yourself. Especially in this case where you have a relatively young man assaulting an older man.
 

S1lent

Member
benita said:
Sticks and stones man.

The old dude is probably racist and he probably said something offensive to the black dude.

Despite that, I don't know how anyone can come to any conclusion other than the black dude deserved to get his ass handed to him.

It's a good thing nobody is coming to that conclusion then. The white guy was well within his rights to defend himself. He was also probably a racist. People here are acting like those two things are mutually exclusive.
 

YoungHav

Banned
S1lent said:
-Asked a black guy to spit shine his shoes in a smug and condescending way
-When black guy takes offense, tries to prove he isn't racist by saying he'd be fine having another minority (a "Chinaman") do it too
-"Don't fuck with me BOY"
-In the second video, appears to yell out "cotton-pickin' mother fuckers!"

Dude is very likely racist, or at the very least is ignorant and racially insensitive.

Also, a side note, but I'm pretty sure the white guy originally was sitting in the front and then walked back to the back to talk to the black guy. This is why the black guy keeps telling him to go "back" to the front, and then he does.
benita said:
Sticks and stones man.

The old dude is probably racist and he probably said something offensive to the black dude.

Despite that, I don't know how anyone can come to any conclusion other than the black dude deserved to get his ass handed to him.

2 guys get into it, guy 1 moves away, guy 2 escalates the situation.

It's pretty fucking simple.
OMG you guys are so racist for calling someone possibly racist. How dare you? Its people like you that make racism still existent in today's society. Racists![/sarcasm].

Agree w/benita on this one.
 

daw840

Member
S1lent said:
-Asked a black guy to spit shine his shoes in a smug and condescending way
-When black guy takes offense, tries to prove he isn't racist by saying he'd be fine having another minority (a "Chinaman") do it too
-"Don't fuck with me BOY"
-In the second video, appears to yell out "cotton-pickin' mother fuckers!"

Dude is very likely racist, or at the very least is ignorant and racially insensitive.

Also, a side note, but I'm pretty sure the white guy originally was sitting in the front and then walked back to the back to talk to the black guy. This is why the black guy keeps telling him to go "back" to the front, and then he does.

Its a real possibility, he is 67 years old, very hard to let go of some of that shit. OTOH, once he gets put on the defensive before the fight he is flustered and the internal filter is probably not functioning quite right, AFTER the fight he is very likely completely pumped full of adrenaline and very upset and his internal filter is really fucked and shit is just coming out. Consider, if you will, things that you say every day and are perfectly fine. That white/black guy, African American, etc. What if, in 10-20 years those became offensive? You would very likely try to not ever use those terms, but when a situation comes up where you are incredibly stressed and flustered you would probably slip up. I don't know about you, but every time I have been in a fight, afterward I am shaking very badly and don't really know what's going on. Win or lose.
 

YoungHav

Banned
why are you still getting into fights?

I wish Conan was still on. Old Man needs to be on TV wtf. We have all these talentless celebs that get thrown at us 24/7, yet Old Man and Amber Lamps aren't on TV yet.
 
just watched it. hilarious. fucking OWNED. hell, i'm still laughing.

so what's the story? Guy steps on old mans' shoes and old man tells him to spitshine his shoes. Guy is black and takes his remark as being racist. They argue. Old man wisely sits in front seat to avoid a fight, but keeps on mouthing back. younger guy threatens him, old guy threatens him back. younger guy hits him and gets punches in his face.

still laughing here..

makes me think of Buzz Aldrin (in his 80's) video where he punches a young idiot reporter.
 

daw840

Member
YoungHav said:
why are you still getting into fights?

I wish Conan was still on. Old Man needs to be on TV wtf. We have all these talentless celebs that get thrown at us 24/7, yet Old Man and Amber Lamps aren't on TV yet.

Its been years since I have truly been in a fight, but back in the day I have been in quite a few unfortunately. Got my ass kicked quite a few times, but also kicked some ass sometimes.
 

Nameless

Member
The old dude looked looked like Lennox Lewis out there. Wisely used his height and reach advantage by keeping the other guy at bay with a few strong left jabs before letting loose with a vicious flurry of punches to the head, color me impressed. :lol :lol Dude is a beast.

And I don't think the black guy is 50 I think he's just saying that as a defiant and sarcastic response to the white guy saying he's 67.
 
daw840 said:
Its been years since I have truly been in a fight, but back in the day I have been in quite a few unfortunately. Got my ass kicked quite a few times, but also kicked some ass sometimes.

You're a rare person. Every person that I know who's been in fights say they always won. :lol
 
Too many people are surprised at how capable he is for his age. A lot of old people in the 65+ bracket can actually hold their own pretty damn well. Look at Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino for example - a movie, I know, but it's totally reflective.
 

S1lent

Member
daw840 said:
Its a real possibility, he is 67 years old, very hard to let go of some of that shit. OTOH, once he gets put on the defensive before the fight he is flustered and the internal filter is probably not functioning quite right, AFTER the fight he is very likely completely pumped full of adrenaline and very upset and his internal filter is really fucked and shit is just coming out. Consider, if you will, things that you say every day and are perfectly fine. That white/black guy, African American, etc. What if, in 10-20 years those became offensive? You would very try to not ever use those terms, but when a situation comes up where you are incredibly stressed and flustered you would probably slip up. I don't know about you, but every time I have been in a fight, afterward I am shaking very badly and don't really know what's going on. Win or lose.

Your argument really only applies to the "Chinaman" thing, and the fact that he used that particular term is probably the least racist thing I listed.
 

daw840

Member
S1lent said:
Your argument really only applies to the "Chinaman" thing, and the fact that he used that particular term is probably the least racist thing I listed.

That and the "cotton-pickin" thing. The first conversation we are not privy to the first portion of, so I am not leaping to the "racist piece of shit" judgement as many others in this thread are.
 

ItAintEasyBeinCheesy

it's 4th of July in my asshole
S1lent said:
-Asked a black guy to spit shine his shoes in a smug and condescending way
-When black guy takes offense, tries to prove he isn't racist by saying he'd be fine having another minority (a "Chinaman") do it too
-"Don't fuck with me BOY"
-In the second video, appears to yell out "cotton-pickin' mother fuckers!"

Dude is very likely racist, or at the very least is ignorant and racially insensitive.

Also, a side note, but I'm pretty sure the white guy originally was sitting in the front and then walked back to the back to talk to the black guy. This is why the black guy keeps telling him to go "back" to the front, and then he does.

:lol

How was he smug and condecending? seemed very mater of factly. He may have been up the front of the bus and the black guy said something about polishing shoes and the old guy followed and asked how much. He says "what did you say to me down there?" and the black guy replies "whys a black man gotta shine your shoes" old guys replies doesnt matter who polishes them.

And when your old every male younger than you is a BOY.
 
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