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Bus Fight: Old White Guy V.S. Young Black Guy in an Arguement Over Racism

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harSon

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PhoenixDark said:
If you put your hands on someone and get beat the fuck up, you brought that on yourself. Especially in this case where you have a relatively young man assaulting an older man.
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The Black guy is 50 years old, the fight was a relatively old man "assaulting" an even older man.
 
Dude Abides

Dude Abides

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S1lent said:
It's a good thing nobody is coming to that conclusion then. The white guy was well within his rights to defend himself. He was also probably a racist. People here are acting like those two things are mutually exclusive.
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Everyone should pay heed to the wise words of this gentleman and scholar.
 
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Not to be mistaken, the white guy knew exactly what he was doing hurling that "shoe shining" dig at a black person. Pretty tame as far as racist comments go, but he aimed to get under the guy's skin and he succeeded. It wasn't harsh enough to get physical over, but he was he was getting out matched verbally and did what he thought he had to. Wrong move.

And Gaf, I don't know what's more jarring.. The fact that the white dude had an "I AM A Motherfucker" T-shirt on or the fact that he was wearing it tucked into an over sized pair of athletic shorts. You clearly don't fuck with someone like that.

and :lol :lol :lol and the collective gasps of the bus passengers as that first hellacious jab connected. They were almost as shocked as the guy who got his ass whooped.
 
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I <3 Memes

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S1lent said:
-Asked a black guy to spit shine his shoes in a smug and condescending way
-When black guy takes offense, tries to prove he isn't racist by saying he'd be fine having another minority (a "Chinaman") do it too
-"Don't fuck with me BOY"
-In the second video, appears to yell out "cotton-pickin' mother fuckers!"

Dude is very likely racist, or at the very least is ignorant and racially insensitive.

Also, a side note, but I'm pretty sure the white guy originally was sitting in the front and then walked back to the back to talk to the black guy. This is why the black guy keeps telling him to go "back" to the front, and then he does.
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Coolio McAwesomes did a transcript that is pretty accurate to what is in the video. It doesnt really match up with your version. It sounds like the black guy says something about shining shoes while passing by the already seated white guy (we know the white guy was on the bus first). The white guy takes it as an offer and shit goes all downhill from there.

White Man: "How much you chargin' me for a spit shine?"
Black Man: "What?"
White Man: "How much you charge me for my Stacy Adams? I'm going to a funeral on Friday."
Black Man: "You get what I said just now?"
White Man: "Yes."
Black Man: "Why a brother gotta spit shine your shoes?"
White Man: "You offered!"
Black Man: "I didn't offer you shit."
White Man: "What did you just say when you walked by me?"
Black Man: "I say why a fuckin' brother gotta spit shine your shoes."
White Man: "He don't have to."
Black Man: "Why a white man can't spit shine?"
White Man: "It can be a Chinaman, it don't matter! I ain't prejudice. You think I'm prejudice!?"
Black Man: "Look dude, look. Take your ass back up and get the fuck out my face right now."
White Man: "Why you bein' so hostile man?"
Black Man: "'Cause. I'm pissed off."
White Man: "Good. You better be pissed off (inaudible) cause you ain't scared this white boy."

At this point the old man is on his feet and in the process of leaving.
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Onemic

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The guy was within his right to defend himself, but I don't know why people are fighting tooth and nail to try and day that he isn't racist, when from the two videos we have available show that he most likely is.(In fact the 2nd video in which he calls him a cotton picking motherfucker pretty much confirms it) You guys do know that he can be right in his ability to defend himself and still be racist.
 
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Archaix

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:lol :lol

Deadspin is loving Epic Beard Man:

http://deadspin.com/5474034/bus-fightin-man-already-an-oakland-legend


IAAMF guy pulls out a pack of generic menthol 100's cigarettes and gives one to the 3 Mexican kids to share. Then he puts on a show. He telling everybody how hard he is (in a funny/jovial way). I believed him. He's yelling how he got his ass beat by 6 Black guys in Chicago for wearing an A's hat. It was in the bathroom and while he was pissing, he got hit over the head with a bottle. He also talked about the time he got beat up by the cops in NYC and that's why he was yelling at the "pig" OPD who was across the street in his patrol car. The Mexican kids were loving it.

I kinda was too.

He then goes on about how "high" he is and that he just "smoked some of the best shit in town". Then he talked about (when I say "talk", I mean very loud almost yelling) wanting to get "some pussy". I laughed and he walks over and gives me a high five. He goes on to say that he's hung like a mule and that "even guys want to suck my dick". I believed THAT.
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harSon

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I <3 Memes said:
Coolio McAwesomes did a transcript that is pretty accurate to what is in the video. It doesnt really match up with your version. It sounds like the black guy says something about shining shoes while passing by the already seated white guy (we know the white guy was on the bus first). The white guy takes it as an offer and shit goes all downhill from there.
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I still don't get how you come away with this as your definitive assessment of the situation. This may or may not be the case but you can't say for sure without hearing the conversation in its entirety.
 
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giga

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WarMacheen said:
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Holy fuck. :lol
 
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I <3 Memes

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harSon said:
I still don't get how you come away with this as your definitive assessment of the situation.
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Because its what was said on the video. : |

Sure maybe the white guy asked the black guy to shine his shoes to piss him off but all we have to go on is the video. It's all in the context. White guy is surprised by black guys reaction. White guy says "you offered!" in a surprised tone. White guy doesn't understand what is happening when black guy says "I didn't offer you shit!" and asks black guy to clarify what he said when he passed by "what did you say when you passed by me?"
 
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harSon

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I <3 Memes said:
Because its what was said on the video. : |

Sure maybe the white guy asked the black guy to shine his shoes to piss him off but all we have to go on is the video. It's all in the context. White guy is surprised by black guys reaction. White guy says "you offered!" in a surprised tone. White guy doesn't understand what is happening and asks black guy to clarify what he said when he passed by "what did you say when you passed by me?"
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And the black guy answers with "Why a brother gotta spit shine your shoes?", nothing about offering the guy a shoe shining.
 
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harSon said:
And the black guy answers with "Why a brother gotta spit shine your shoes?", nothing about offering the guy a shoe shining.
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And white guy says "you offered!" How can you not see that something about shoe shines was said before the video rolled? The conversation didnt start when the video started. And I dont see how you cant see that the white guy is surprised by the black guys reaction.
 
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YoungHav

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^^ as said before Old Man could've been sarcastic and/or fucking with him. He doesn't seem mentally all there.

:lol this video is great. When Old Man has him beatdown someone on the bus says "Ay, beat that nigga's ass!!" LOL.
 
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harSon

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I <3 Memes said:
And white guy says "you offered!" How can you not see that something about shoe shines was said before the video rolled? The conversation didnt start when the video started. And I dont see how you cant see that the white guy is surprised by the black guys reaction.
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And the Black guy says he didn't offer him shit. You can't make any definitive assumptions because you're lacking the complete altercation in context. The only thing you can say for sure is that both of them are complete asses.
 
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Barberetti

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Archaix said:
:lol :lol

Deadspin is loving Epic Beard Man:

http://deadspin.com/5474034/bus-fightin-man-already-an-oakland-legend
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deadspin said:
So it's about 3-5 minutes before the bus comes and he spots this cat across the street. This guy is a famous shoe-shiner in the City. I know the guy. IAAMF guy yells and runs across the street. He almost got killed in the process as he didn't look both ways and seriously ALMOST got hit. I'm thinking this guy really is a MOTHERFUCKER. Apparently IAAMF didn't have enough money for the $4 transbay fare (I know, rip off) so he got some cash from shoe-shine guy. I guess they "go back 20 years man".
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There's definitely more to the shoe shine bit than what's in the video, if the contents of the email are in any way accurate.
 
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projekt84

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S1lent said:
-Asked a black guy to spit shine his shoes in a smug and condescending way
-When black guy takes offense, tries to prove he isn't racist by saying he'd be fine having another minority (a "Chinaman") do it too
-"Don't fuck with me BOY"
-In the second video, appears to yell out "cotton-pickin' mother fuckers!"

Dude is very likely racist, or at the very least is ignorant and racially insensitive.

Also, a side note, but I'm pretty sure the white guy originally was sitting in the front and then walked back to the back to talk to the black guy. This is why the black guy keeps telling him to go "back" to the front, and then he does.
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Not sure if serious.

Also, you can see when the black man says "Why a brother got to spit shine your shoes?" The white man responds "You offered!"

How do you say "You offered" if the white man made the initial request of a shoe shine?

You assume too much stuff that happens before the video, because the context I saw was

- Black man says spit shine comment to white man
- white man says ok spit shine shoes because i have a funeral on friday
- black man takes offense and says "why a brother got to spit shine your shoes?"
- white man says "you offered!"
 
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GhaleonEB

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harSon said:
And the Black guy says he didn't offer him shit. You can't make any definitive assumptions because you're lacking the complete altercation in context. The only thing you can say for sure is that both of them are complete asses.
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From the conversation we do have recorded, and the visual reactions of the two, it's pretty clear there was a misunderstanding that sparked the blow-up.
 
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Dark Octave

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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbsX5j-8T3Y
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:lol Youtube comments:
CUBANO76 said:
"You are a fucking liar and a&#65279; RACIST. You are part of the problem with society, fucking trash nigger."
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...Really? This is really one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life. He calls her racist and then says that? Why are comments like this so common on youtube? Even if the video isn't about race, we always get this shit. Is there some kind of time warp that allows people from the 40's and 50's to post comments on youtube?

I want to believe people are naturally good, but there is no doubt that without fear of physical injury or public shame and banishment, the world would be 100 times worse than it is now.
 
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daycru

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Dark Octave said:
:lol Youtube comments:

...Really? This is really one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life. He calls her racist and then says that? Why are comments like this so common on youtube? Even if the video isn't about race, we always get this shit. Is there some kind of time warp that allows people from the 40's and 50's to post comments on youtube?

I want to believe people are naturally good, but there is no doubt that without fear of physical injury or public shame and banishment, the world would be 100 times worse than it is now.
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Society keeps a lot of people in check IRL. On the internet there's no reason to hold back.
 
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daycru said:
Society keeps a lot of people in check IRL. On the internet there's no reason to hold back.
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I also think a lot of people just joke around...I hope so anyway. People can't be this stupid :(
 
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ultim8p00

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vas_a_morir said:
"That man was on some kind of dope... that's why he act like that." -random black lady. I don't know if he was on dope, or maybe he could use some. But, he wasn't right in the head.

Let's be real, he was trying to start shit with that guy. That black dude couldn't say "just forget it." He had to keep it real, with that "get outta my face" bullshit. If the white dude would have got his ass whooped, he maybe wouldn't have deserved it, but he certainly was inviting it.
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When keeping it real goes wrong
 
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Alpha_eX

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Just looked at the youtube comments and someone's only gone and posted that girl's full name, address and phone number.

She stole the old man's bag at the end, you can hear her friend saying "go through that shit".

No sympathy for the guy who threw the first punch and got owned as a result.
 
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Az

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The reason I think something else was going on before it started recording is the girls would have no reason to record at that moment if nothing was said before. Black guy was talking something repeating about shining shoes and sat right by the white guy. So white guy being a smartass made the comment, and it started.

Love the ass beating tho, the guy didn't see that coming.
 
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