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[FrankT]

It's pretty solid review though it does sound like the extra is a bit tack on.

CVG 9.2;

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=267010

Videogamer 9;

http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/lords_of_shadow/review.html

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Does anyone have any info on whether or not the PS3 version uses DTS? 7.1?

 

[forrest]

That video ..ahhhh

Dem environments...
Dat atmosphere...

 

[Pooya]

It's pretty solid review though it does sound like the extra is a bit tack on.

CVG 9.2;

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=267010

Complaints? With a screen cluttered with enemies, countering can be near impossible. And some of that grounded weightiness could just be the dump-o frame rate. Often sitting the wrong side of 30, it's nothing debilitating, but it will (and with an audience of colleagues watching, often has) upset some eyes. Us? We'd like a smoother game, but fully appreciate why it drags its heels - with lip-quivering environments and intricate art design, Lords of Shadow challenges the Xbox 360's very best. At 60 frames it'd be devastating.

>_<

 

[FrankT]

Yup saw that too and I hope it isn't too bad overall. How is the framerate in the PS3 demo?

I sitll don't even know if the 360 demo is hitting this week as they really haven't said a date. No mention of it at all.

 

[Diseased Yak]

Damn that 11 minute video and damn that Eurogamer review!

Now I gotta buy this, and it comes out right when Gothic 4 does

 

[Suzzopher]

Yup saw that too and I hope it isn't too bad overall. How is the framerate in the PS3 demo?

I sitll don't even know if the 360 demo is hitting this week as they really haven't said a date. No mention of it at all.

24fps dropping down 16fps at times.

 

[FrankT]

24fps dropping down 16fps at times.

Ehh, hope it isn't that bad. Seriously Konami let us know the 360 demo date.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

24fps dropping down 16fps at times.

Is this the PS3 demo version or both that you are referring to? What is your source?

 

[Thaedolus]

My question is: will the PS3 version require an update to play? I kinda want to jailbreak my system, so if I need to update it, I'll just get the 360 version

 

[Suzzopher]

Is this the PS3 demo version or both that you are referring to? What is your source?

My mistake, it maxes at 33.5 but drops to 23fps and averages around 24fps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjxmMEDuBZQ&feature=player_embedded

 

[d1rtn4p]

Final Verdict

Exceptional presentation and an affecting, moody atmosphere help to compensate for some mixed game design. Highly recommended to fantasy aficionados. 8.5/10

What the crap?

 

[Fortinbras]

More reviews:

GamePro (Germany): 88% - colors more vibrant in the 360 version, no other differences, review video: http://www.gamepro.de/index.cfm?pid=386&pk=2894
eurogamer.net: 8/10
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-28-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-review

 

[Draft]

My mistake, it maxes at 33.5 but drops to 23fps and averages around 24fps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjxmMEDuBZQ&feature=player_embedded

W.O.W.

Any interest I had in this game just went right out the damn window. 24fps is shameful.

 

[FrankT]

More reviews:

GamePro (Germany): 88% - colors more vibrant in the 360 version, no other differences, review video: http://www.gamepro.de/index.cfm?pid=386&pk=2894
eurogamer.net: 8/10
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-28-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-review

Well at least someone has done at least a slight comparison. I guess that means FR will be around the same, which if the PS3 demo is comparable that means 24fps. Would have liked to seen better.

 

[Suzzopher]

W.O.W.

Any interest I had in this game just went right out the damn window. 24fps is shameful.

It's an old demo though, maybe it will be 30fps throughout the final release?

 

[FrankT]

It's an old demo though, maybe it will be 30fps throughout the final release?

Possible, but I doubt it's a solid 30 if there are no differences between the two save more vibrant colors.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

It's an old demo though, maybe it will be 30fps throughout the final release?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23573287&postcount=517

 

[Fortinbras]

Possible, but I doubt it's a solid 30 if there are no differences between the two save more vibrant colors.

They mention some technical flaws like slowdowns and low-res textures. Seems to be for both versions though.

 

[S1kkZ]

link to the 11 minute video please (or do you guys talk about the tgs trailer?).

 

[FrankT]

link to the 11 minute video please (or do you guys talk about the tgs trailer?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCNf_Ryp95c

 

[Chaplain]

My mistake, it maxes at 33.5 but drops to 23fps and averages around 24fps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjxmMEDuBZQ&feature=player_embedded

How does the 360 version compare?

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

How large is the PS3 demo? I've only got a few GB to last me until the end of the month. Damn you, Comcast! :lol

 

[Suzzopher]

How does the 360 version compare?

It's not out yet.

 

[Blimblim]

link to the 11 minute video please (or do you guys talk about the tgs trailer?).

I just got it from Konami (1.6 GB source reencoded to my usual quality), so if you want it in high quality, there it is:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_castlevania_los_commented_gameplay-10022_en.html

 

[burgerdog]

I just got it from Konami (1.6 GB source reencoded to my usual quality), so if you want it in high quality, there it is:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_castlevania_los_commented_gameplay-10022_en.html

Always bet on Blim.

 

[S1kkZ]

thanks blim and jtyettis!

 

[brandonh83]

Everything looks fine until you see those framerate statistics and all of a sudden it's terrible despite what the actual footage shows and how the game actually plays. I wonder if the same comments would be made about that video if the fps wasn't noted in it.

Oh wait, not really because we've been seeing gameplay footage for over a year now but no one had any problems with the framerate until now. Are reviews complaining about horrible framerate problems? It seems to be getting very good scores for now.

 

[FreedomFrisbee]

W.O.W.

Any interest I had in this game just went right out the damn window. 24fps is shameful.

We just had a large discussion about how framerate doesn't matter in the last thread. Tis but eye candy.

he gameplay trailer got me excited... but I don't like the sound of this. Sounds like they could have made a 10-12 hour game without the fluff.

All these same criticisms were leveled at RE4.

 

[CitizenCope]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCNf_Ryp95c

I'm sold.
Had no interest just a few days ago.

 

[Draft]

Everything looks fine until you see those framerate statistics and all of a sudden it's terrible despite what the actual footage shows and how the game actually plays. I wonder if the same comments would be made about that video if the fps wasn't noted in it.

Oh wait, not really because we've been seeing gameplay footage for over a year now but no one had any problems with the framerate until now. Are reviews complaining about horrible framerate problems? It seems to be getting very good scores for now.

It's practically impossible to get any sort of feel for a game's framerate from youtube or gametrailers footage outside of huge obnoxious drops.

And reviewers can get bent. I believe it was Insomniac who said that metacritic proves that reviewers don't give points for 60fps, and most of them probably don't dock points for games that can't hold 30. Reviewers are just jerks doing time until they can get community manager jobs.

I understand being excited about a game because you are a fan of the IP, or how it looks, or you just want it to be good for whatever reason, but facts are facts and sub 30fps hampers gameplay, especially if the game is built on reaction based mechanics like fighting and platforming.

 

[RavenFox]

I mistakenly triggered that glitch while trying to hide in the corner. Spammed pierce magic till he was dead.

And I shat bricks every time he jumped sideways as if he's escaped the glitch. Good times

Fought him head on and just rolled out of the way when he attempted to attack and yes full armor. That boss was a breeze for me.

 

[brandonh83]

I understand being excited about a game because you are a fan of the IP, or how it looks, or you just want it to be good for whatever reason, but facts are facts and sub 30fps hampers gameplay, especially if the game is built on reaction based mechanics like fighting and platforming.

I just think that if it were really an issue we would have been hearing about it a lot by now. And again, you're right, it's hard to get a feel for anything until you actually play it. Just saying, try it first and don't get hung up over the technicalities until you deem that it actually hampers the gameplay. From the evidence in every single gameplay video that has been released of the title, I don't suspect that it will. The demo comes out today so you can be your own judge.

And yeah, I realize that because I made the OT and I'm clearly excited about the game may dish out heavy suspicions that I will like it "no matter what" but if the framerate does hamper the gameplay I will be the first one on here bitching about it. Don't forget, I was defending Final Fantasy XIII like my life depended on it but I ended up sort of hating it.

 

[Ilias78]

I just got it from Konami (1.6 GB source reencoded to my usual quality), so if you want it in high quality, there it is:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_castlevania_los_commented_gameplay-10022_en.html

Love you Blimblim!

 

[Schattenjäger]

So does this game have castlevania music?? The eurogamer review said it doesn't .. I need some bloody tears

 

[brandonh83]

So does this game have castlevania music?? The eurogamer review said it doesn't .. I need some bloody tears

It does, but no Bloody Tears. Remember, if this game does well, Cox has went on record saying that future installments may be a reality so there's always room later for more classic remixed tracks.

 

[RavenFox]

So does this game have castlevania music?? The eurogamer review said it doesn't .. I need some bloody tears

You can load your own music. So if you have bloody tears or any other track you would like to use then by all means load it up.

 

[brandonh83]

You can load your own music. So if you have bloody tears or any other track you would like to use then by all means load it up.

That might be fun on replays, but they didn't hire an acclaimed Spanish film composer for nothing.

 

[DSmalls84]

Glad to see the reviews are good and that my Other M and Reach credit at Amazon wasn't wasted on the preorder!

 

[FreedomFrisbee]

I understand being excited about a game because you are a fan of the IP, or how it looks, or you just want it to be good for whatever reason, but facts are facts and sub 30fps hampers gameplay, especially if the game is built on reaction based mechanics like fighting and platforming.

Someone hold me back!

Seriously, go find the old thread and read the framerate/reaction time/latency discussion. You might be enlightened.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Someone hold me back!

Seriously, go find the old thread and read the framerate/reaction time/latency discussion. You might be enlightened.

Actually, the programmer of Dead Space posted in that thread contradicting your position. I don't remember seeing you reply to that.

 

[RavenFox]

That might be fun on replays, but they didn't hire an acclaimed Spanish film composer for nothing.

Oh I know but just putting it out there for those that didn't.

 

[Draft]

Someone hold me back!

Seriously, go find the old thread and read the framerate/reaction time/latency discussion. You might be enlightened.

Are you for real?

 

[FreedomFrisbee]

Actually, the programmer of Dead Space posted in that thread contradicting your position. I don't remember seeing you reply to that.

I don't remember that being a programmer. I thought he was an artist, who talked about something a programmer had done. And he was commenting on latency.

Are you for real?

I am for real telling you you should go look at that convo. We talked it into the ground.

 

[Despera]

Where my demo at!?
I wanna decide which version I'm gettin'.

 

[Draft]

I am for real telling you you should go look at that convo. We talked it into the ground.

This forum has no search function and I have absolutely no idea what thread or conversation you are referring to.

 

[Hydrargyrus]

Nowgamer

Xbox : 8'3
http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/reviews/xbox-360/9439/lords-of-shadow

Ps3: 8'5
http://ps3.nowgamer.com/reviews/ps3/9438/lords-of-shadow

 

[WickedLaharl]

still no date for a 360 demo? this sucks. that g4 video was great but i need a demo before committing to a buy.

 

[Y2Kev]

Ouch.

Spatial intelligence? he's not talking about any Iga game, right?

 

[Henchmen21]

CVG = 9.2

Okay, this quote got me

although hearing Jean-Luc Picard talk about a "an old bitch" is a little disconcerting.