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Castlevania: Lords of Shadow |OT| The MercurySteam has Vanquished the Horrible Night
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polyh3dron
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This demo is old, it's the same one that was playable at E3, therefore the final version is likely to be a substantial improvement.Horsebite said:
I don't really like the horse back riding segments. Square for a certain enemy, triangle for a certian enemy. WUT?
And then throw in the L2/R2 shitty triggers on the PS3 for blocking and healing and it's... yeah...
I do like the combat. It's kinda DMC + God of War + Castlevania. But the whip coming from the cross (I assume) is "wait... what?"
Still, nice to see that Kojima's influence in cutscenes and overlooking the gameplay turned out a decent 3D Castlevania for once. But give me another 2D HD Metroidvania, Konami. :|
And then throw in the L2/R2 shitty triggers on the PS3 for blocking and healing and it's... yeah...
I do like the combat. It's kinda DMC + God of War + Castlevania. But the whip coming from the cross (I assume) is "wait... what?"
Still, nice to see that Kojima's influence in cutscenes and overlooking the gameplay turned out a decent 3D Castlevania for once. But give me another 2D HD Metroidvania, Konami. :|
This is the build that we all saw videos of just after E3. It's the same E3 build-warthog fight and horse ride through the old hunting path. All I'm saying is don't commit to it looking the same in the final build. We all saw how GOW3 turned out. It was like a different game from the demo.Horsebite said:
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hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
TheSeks said:
The horseback segment is clearly filler, IMO, but the attacks make sense, even if they're described in a weird way. They should have just called them vertical or horizontal attacks or something. It's almost exactly like the Pegasus section in GOW2, actually.
I have complained about triggers before, but for something that happens only occasionally like healing at a fountain it's a non-issue for me.
The combat does seem pretty solid, based on what little there is, though I worry it will become less fun as enemies gain more HP or don't react when you hit them (as can be seen in several gameplay videos). I know big enemies are not supposed to flinch, but I hate it when attacks feel ineffectual. If you can't do the long combos the game provides because the enemies just attack you in the middle of them every time, it could be a problem for me.
Prime crotch
Banned
I honestly can't tell what Kojima did on this other than give it a more reputable name.TheSeks said:
I have read/watched most of the interviews about this game...I have not seen or heard such things that I would constitute as taking swings toward IGA.Segata Sanshiro said:
He's said the game has nothing to do with IGA, when people have asked him about that. He said it is taking its inspiration from earlier Castlevania's rather than Metroidvanias. He's never said those games are bad, just that isn't where they are heading. I think you are reading too much into his statements. He is just saying how it is.
Simo
Member
Prime crotch said:
I think he was more of a Consultant Director/Supervisor given what David Cox has said in the past in that if Mercury Steam had any creative questions or problems with tech they'd consult with Kojima to get his input.
Reported case of this, from Cox himself, was that Mercury Steam were having trouble synching the VO audio to the animation so Cox consulted with Kojima who in return sent some members of the team from Kojima Productions with the MGS animation tools to help them out. In return Mercury Steam helped out with some questions and problems with mulitplatform development for the Metal Gear Rising team.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
burgerdog said:
Kagari said:
So the PhyreEngine actually runs on 360? I thought Sony made it as a cross platform engine only for PS3/PSP/PC development. My bad then.
Combichristoffersen said:
It's a PS3-based engine that can be licensed for use on other platforms, created for easier development. A lot of smaller Japanese developers have actually been using it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhyreEngine
RavenFox said:
What did he do? From everything I've read, from Mercury Steam themselves, has said that he is the reason that the game is Castlevania. They pitched the idea to Konami, and were rejected, but Kojima liked what he heard and pushed the project forward. As far as I've read, that's all. Also, when they were unsure if something should be added in, they asked him what he thought, and he basically gave them creative freedom with the title. It's not like he came up with the ideas and contracted out Mercury Steam to deliver his vision for Castlevania.
Played the demo 3 times yesterday and i've got mixed feelings. I love the game world, atmosphere, presentation, voice acting. Game looks great too, nice cutscenes, high production values.
I learnt from GOW3 that i suck at hack n' slash and it's a game genre that i just don't seem to enjoy (it always amounts in button mashing in my case). However, this game felt as a somewhat slower more tactic version of hack 'n slash and i enjoyed it a bit more here. Still not sure if i would enjoy it for an entire game though so i will wait for impressions on how mixed the gameplay is. If the hack 'n slash is mixed with a lot of puzzle and platform gameplay, then i might pick this up.
In conclusion: i love everything about this game except the hack 'n slash gameplay. Which is a shame as it seems to be a very nice single player story driven fantasy adventure game with superb production values.
I learnt from GOW3 that i suck at hack n' slash and it's a game genre that i just don't seem to enjoy (it always amounts in button mashing in my case). However, this game felt as a somewhat slower more tactic version of hack 'n slash and i enjoyed it a bit more here. Still not sure if i would enjoy it for an entire game though so i will wait for impressions on how mixed the gameplay is. If the hack 'n slash is mixed with a lot of puzzle and platform gameplay, then i might pick this up.
In conclusion: i love everything about this game except the hack 'n slash gameplay. Which is a shame as it seems to be a very nice single player story driven fantasy adventure game with superb production values.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
dark10x said:
Every review has noted that the game is long, arguably to its detriment. I don't think it would be mentionable if it were the average 10-15 hours.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
That's fine. Your interpretation is that he's telling it like it is and you want to cuddle by the fireplace with him. My interpretation is that he's an assmunch riding a wee bit high on himself and has only harmed the game's chances with his candor and false promises. The truth perhaps lies somewhere in the middle but it doesn't change the fact that I like this game better if I disassociate him and his lies from it, so I will.NeoUltima said:
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Just finished the demo. Graphics were solid and I didn't notice any graphical problems, no obvious screen tears and frame drops. Good presentation.
Although it did feel a bit like God of War + Bayonetta. Personally I don't feel the "Castlevania" vibe in much for some reason (maybe its because I haven't seen the castle portion yet). Unfortunately I think I'll pass this for now.
Although it did feel a bit like God of War + Bayonetta. Personally I don't feel the "Castlevania" vibe in much for some reason (maybe its because I haven't seen the castle portion yet). Unfortunately I think I'll pass this for now.
AndyMoogle
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They are wargs, not warthogs.RavenFox said:This is the build that we all saw videos of just after E3. It's the same E3 build-warthog fight and horse ride through the old hunting path. All I'm saying is don't commit to it looking the same in the final build. We all saw how GOW3 turned out. It was like a different game from the demo.
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Playing the demo and watching this video paints enough of a picture to suggest that this is going to be an epic experience.ULTROS! said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCNf_Ryp95c
There is not yet a quality 3D Castlevania game with the vibe you are searching for, so I think it's best to approach this as something new.
TheKaeptain
Banned
No, iirc Kojima was the reason they (Konami) went with Mercury instead of another company.Aklamarth said:
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
dark10x said:
I know you'd hate me for saying this but I enjoyed Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness. Sure they aren't the best Castlevania games but I was able to enjoy 'em nonetheless. Still I'll see how Lords of Shadow will be and make a final decision after a few more full impression.
keltickennedy
Member
burgerdog said:
This is kind of a shitty deal for Mercury Steam. Konami have kind of been marketing it as a Kojima game. A lot of my friends that are more mainstream, and really don't read up on gaming stuff, thought that Kojima Productions were developing it.
I can see this happening two ways, if the game is a successful Kojima will get all the praise. If the game tanks and is shit, then Mercury Steam will get the blame. This is unfortunate, but what are you going to do, right.
For those of you not getting a Castlevania feeling let me repost the Gameplay Trailer.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Lament of Innocence was a good game dammit.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
And you sound like jett, which means you haven't got a hot clue what you're talking about.jett said:
TheKaeptain
Banned
I have the demo and I live in California.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Yes, make a European PSN account (it's free and pretty easy) or wait a while longer.ACE 1991 said:
I thought it was OK, but even its fans should be able to see that it had some design issues. The combat was fun, the music was great, and it had great potential, but the environments nearly spoiled the whole thing. The level design was flat out boring. They copy and pasted a bunch of rooms together and left you to slog through each one fighting a small handful of enemies. It didn't matter if you were exploring the "dungeon", the "sewer", the "gardens" or any other location, they were all basically the same series of hallways and rooms. The only difference between any of the levels were the textures used to paint the walls.CaptYamato said:
On paper, the game sounds great as IGA essentially created a replica of the 2D games in 3D. If you look at a map in a 2D CV title you'll see it contains a series of corridors and large open areas. When you visit areas represented as a large block in the 2D games, however, you'll actually find a series of intricate platforming challenges along with the enemies to face. In 3D, however, each of these block rooms literally ended up being a small arena where you'd fight a bunch of enemies before selecting one of the potential doors (and they were generally in the same place). The level design was no more intricate than, say, Smash TV. There was nothing to really fill in those blocks on the 2D map and that is why it failed.
This new game appears to have variety in spades with a huge assortment of environments and challenges based on those environments. It looks like an amazing world to explore and seems to contain enough assets to fill multiple games.
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