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CBS Sports updated their top 50 NBA players list...
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lol@ this
A 34 year old Kobe avg 27/6/6 like 3 or 4 years ago.
Ehhh What other metric do you want to take? This dude who clearly an obviously hates Bryant?
And this is where I walk away. I refuse to get sucked into this nonsense.
UnObtainium17
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Dwight shouldn't be there.
Paul pierce is too high.
I love AI but over Isiah?
I would not have put Steph over KD. I dont care about him being unanimous MVP. He's not even top 20 yet. How long has he been in his "prime"? 2-3 seasons? Also LeBron was the first unofficial unanimous MVP. 😒
The guys in 10-16 are top 10.1, ... , 10.6 to me. Mjcry.png
After last years finals I was almost certain Bron over wilt but my only reason being Wilt played with bum ass vs bum ass players. Reading Ninjas post convinced me it really is bron over wilt.
Lol i saw his rank and i was like.. well we're off to a great start!
Paul pierce is too high.
I love AI but over Isiah?
I would not have put Steph over KD. I dont care about him being unanimous MVP. He's not even top 20 yet. How long has he been in his "prime"? 2-3 seasons? Also LeBron was the first unofficial unanimous MVP. 😒
The guys in 10-16 are top 10.1, ... , 10.6 to me. Mjcry.png
After last years finals I was almost certain Bron over wilt but my only reason being Wilt played with bum ass vs bum ass players. Reading Ninjas post convinced me it really is bron over wilt.
Lol i saw his rank and i was like.. well we're off to a great start!
Kayo Police
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I dont see Muggsy Bogues on this list.
Dude had a massive handicap and still balled.
Dude had a massive handicap and still balled.
Hyperactivity
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I don't hate Kobe.
He's not top 10. They were people putting him over Lebron a few years ago, and it was arguable or even true, but not even close to true now
Kobe Bryant is not more than 10 spots away from Michael Jordan.
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Im talking about the other dude. The one with the nonsense.
Kareem and Micheal literally can't be passed
This is a good rule.
Give me a reason why lebron is better. Kobe in his prime had so many 50 point per game streaks when he was on garbage teams with Smush fucking Parker.
Explain his god awful free throw percentage as a forward. Shit is embarrassing.
Red Blaster
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demar is averaging 27/5/4 and he doesn't have dwight howard, steve nash and pau gasol next to him, so maybe that demar comp is a little too generous
it's not like i hate kobe, i just like to deal in facts and statistics.
kobe's best statline was predicated on just taking a billion shots. compared with what guys like harden, isaiah thomas, kawhi and giannis are doing this season it just doesn't measure up.
Shpeshal Nick
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Kobe should be higher and Lebron lower.
UnObtainium17
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Great scorers on garbage teams got the ultimate green lights. Not hating on Kobe bu Bron passed him way back. The finals last year was just the cherry on top.
Caddywompus
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Even if you can't think of 50 players how do you arrive at Dwight Howard?
That guy was such a waste of talent. He should have been dominate from 07-12. There was no one that could physically match him, he just didn't have the desire to be anything more than a McDonald's spokesman.
That guy was such a waste of talent. He should have been dominate from 07-12. There was no one that could physically match him, he just didn't have the desire to be anything more than a McDonald's spokesman.
Dion Blaster
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This is honestly a pretty damn good list. It's always hard ranking players mid-career but they seem to have ranked all the retired players correctly more or less.
Lebron and Curry haters are just delusional at this point.
Lebron and Curry haters are just delusional at this point.
No one who knows anything about basketball could put anyone other than maybe Russell above Kareem. And that is only if you value championships above anything else.
There is no way he is not a top 3 player of all time. To think otherwise is just insane.
I didnt even see this, I was stuck on Kawhi Leonard being on there. And Durant.
wtf at this list....
UnObtainium17
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So the better top 5 will probably be Mike as uno, then the next 4 in any order... Kareem, Bron, Bill, magic.
ehhh, I know his resume speaks for itself but I feel like the era he played in was the weakest compared to everyone else on the list. Do we really think he could get anywhere near 20 rebounds a game playing in the nba today?
Red Blaster
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uhh kawhi is playing dpoy level defense while also scoring 27 ppg on 60+ ts% on a team that's gonna win like 64 games
do half you whiners even watch basketball
he's having a better season than clyde drexler or jason kidd have ever had
do half you whiners even watch basketball
he's having a better season than clyde drexler or jason kidd have ever had
Rbk_3
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*** The next 10 in: Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, Vince Carter, Willis Reed, Wes Unseld, Dave Cowens, Bill Walton, Nate Archibald, James Worthy, James Harden, Manu Ginobili, Dennis Rodman
*** The 19 originals who fell out: Nate Archibald, Paul Arizin, Dave Bing, Dave Cowens, Billy Cunningham, Dave DeBusschere, Hal Greer, Sam Jones, Jerry Lucas, Pete Maravich, Earl Monroe, Robert Parish, Willis Reed, Bill Sharman, Nate Thurmond, Wes Unseld, Bill Walton, Lenny Wilkens, James Worthy
So how can he get booted from the list and be on the next 10 in list.
*** The 19 originals who fell out: Nate Archibald, Paul Arizin, Dave Bing, Dave Cowens, Billy Cunningham, Dave DeBusschere, Hal Greer, Sam Jones, Jerry Lucas, Pete Maravich, Earl Monroe, Robert Parish, Willis Reed, Bill Sharman, Nate Thurmond, Wes Unseld, Bill Walton, Lenny Wilkens, James Worthy
So how can he get booted from the list and be on the next 10 in list.
Dion Blaster
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I would for sure put Kareem above Magic, it's hard to argue against Wilt though. I do agree with their top 5 overall.
You could not put anyone other than Russell above Kareem. And again only if you value championships above everything else.
Its amazing that how people underrate Kareem.
Thats just how the NBA is though. The same thing will happen to Lebron in another 10 years. Already happened to Kobe and Duncan.
UnObtainium17
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Nope. He wouldn't get 10 rings either. What really put me him over wilt was the rings and not much else. Put Wilt in that era and he would probably ball better than how bill did.
LeBron James: 27.1/7.2/7.0
Kobe Bryant: 25.0/5.2/4.7
One is clearly better than the other and these are just simple counting stats. It gets really ugly when you start looking at advanced metrics where things like efficiency matter. Kobe vs. LeBron is basically flat earth vs. round earth at this point.
a flat earth truther put the cavs on his back to save them from losing in the finals so maybe you're on to something
CP3 ahead of Stockton? Seriously is this a joke? Kareem at 5??? And Dwight in the list at all? Who made this list? Holy crap, Hakeem is way too low too. Terrible list, I can't see how somebody would agree with this list at all, not even Dwight Howard would take this list as anything else than a joke.
Ninja Scooter
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50 point games is not a good metric to determine who is better. Efficiency, usage and FG% matter. Every GM past, present and future of presented with the opportunity would taken LeBron over Kobe every day of the week. There is no dimension where Kobe Bryant is a better basketball player than LeBron James, and saying so only serves to expose your very limited knowledge of the sport. It's like saying Chris Davis is better than Mike Trout because of home runs.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Fuck Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Kobe will forever be better.
It's a league that is dominated by superstars in a way that no other major team sport is, the great players are all recent enough that we have footage of them (and for the vast majority we can watch their entire careers), and it's the only sport where where there is statistical overlap across all positions. It makes sense even if it is ultimately a little silly. Like, there is absolutely no fixed point of comparison between Clayton Kershaw and Mike Trout, or between J.J. Watt and Tom Brady.
You have a far better argument about Kobe versus LeBron than either of them being in Kareem's league.
After Cedric Ceballos I personally think Kareem is the greatest player of all time. At every level. High school, college and professionally. Also had the best cameo of all time for a basketball player.
Fenderputty
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I love Kobe. Lebron is better. Kobe is top 10 though. Haters gonna hate.
And he massively underutilized his talent and the physical advantage he had over near everyone he played against.
Truth.
Fenderputty
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LOL
UnObtainium17
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I'm surprise I haven't seen a top 50 list presented as a line graph with 5o points where each point in has a varied distant from the next one. Like mj as 1 could be reallly close to a top 2. And a top 15 could be way far ahead from 16th than 16th is from the 17th and so on.
Shit still can't get over someone forgot westbrook. I mean Westbrook is better than AI who is 34th on thenlist.
Shit still can't get over someone forgot westbrook. I mean Westbrook is better than AI who is 34th on thenlist.
Laugh all you want but he's easily better than someone like Reggie Miller.
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