Before you put us in any such list, you need to wait to see who our QB will be. We may just eliminate the position all together, and put three RBs back there and play 3 card monty with the football.
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Before you put us in any such list, you need to wait to see who our QB will be. We may just eliminate the position all together, and put three RBs back there and play 3 card monty with the football.
So...you have a Ryan Kelly and a Grant Hill on your squad? Interesting....
Purple Cheeto
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I think Mauk, Marshall and Prescott are all decent or better but after that I dunno.
Can I interest you in our secondary coach?
To coach the DL?
Randolph Freelander
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Next year, beyond Oklahoma State, the Noles also add Louisville (replacing Maryland) and Notre Dame to the schedule. They'll have Clemson in Tallahassee. SOS is going to be stronger next year.
Purple Cheeto
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And thus ends the Coach Orgeron return possibilities.
Also since I watch a lot of Pac 12 football and I liked your QB situation thing I did a quick one for the Pac 12:
Arizona ?
ASU Taylor Kelly* (Jr)
Cal Jared Goff*
Colorado Sefo Liufau/Connor Wood*
Oregon Marcus Mariota*
Oregon St. Sean Mannion* (Jr)
Stanford Kevin Hogan* (Jr)
UCLA Brett Hundley*
USC Cody Kessler/Max Wittek* (Lets be real its gonna be Kessler)
Utah Travis Wilson/Adam Schulz* (Wilson was the starter until he got hurt)
Washington Cyler Miles (Maybe?)
WSU Connor Halliday*
ASU and UW are the only teams in the conference not returning their primary starting QBs. I admit to not knowing why there was a QB split at Colorado (injury? ineffectiveness?) but Liufau is a freshman and had the better numbers so I'd put money on him as the starter. Utah will likely go back to Travis Wilson assuming he's completely healthy, which with him is not a sure thing. USC has said that every spot is an open competition, but considering how much Kessler improved over the season and his bowl game numbers I have a hard time seeing him not named starter again.
As far as I can tell Arizona didn't have anyone throw a pass not named BJ Denker, so whoever their backup is is likely to be super inexperienced. UW at least has the luxury of having a guy with some real experience in Miles.
ummm last time I checked Bo Davis was at Texas
edit: Now he's at USCw. Looks like Texas is the one who needs a replacement.
Okay, I thought Rumph was our DL coach this year. Davis left for Texas and we brought in Rumph.
timetokill
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Depends on how good Max Browne looks (or not), I'd guess. He seems less likely to have so many passes batted down. 5-star recruit, #1 ranked pro-style QB by Rivals.
I really have no idea why or how Sark got Wittek to stay, after he was considering leaving this season. I guess he wanted to make sure he had a third-string option available.
timetokill
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So, the winner of the Yahoo Pick'em can either make the offseason thread with their own title and post content, or PM me a title and I'll throw something together.
Purple Cheeto
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I just don't see any coach benching an upper class incumbent with a season's worth of starting experience for a redshirt freshman unless that kid is some kind of once in a life time talent.
I mean, even Tebow had to bide his time behind Chris Leak.
If this was one of those competitions like when Carson Palmer left and none of Cassell, Leinart or Booty had prolonged starting experience, then sure, I could see it going that way.
Random note, I wonder if Browne has bulked up at all. I remember seeing pictures of him in HS being visited by Russell Wilson and the kid was a twig. Looked like he'd break in half getting tackled by the Shane Skovs of the world.
perfectchaos007
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He'll probably leave after spring if it looks like he won't win the job.
Most 6'5" high school kids are twigs, though. I'm sure he's put on weight this past season.
D-Line, we'll lose Stinson, who is a solid run stopper, but that's about it. Being in the 3-4 so long, most of these guys are similar. Return Ivory at NT, who is probably the worst of the NT we've had. He's average, that's about it. Return Pagan, who showed flashes, but not as dominant as I was hoping when we signed him.
Another year grown for some quality underclassmen (A'Shawn Robinson, Dee Liner, Tomlinson-who we get back after knee surgery, and Kirven) Maybe Darren Lake improves as a NT to beat Ivory.
Incoming players Jarren Reed (top 5 Juco DT), Da'Shawn Hand (top rated DE), Josh Frazier (Top 10 DT) should provide some more talent, especially those first 2. Maybe faster/quicker to help out against the influx of HUNH (Reed and Hand are smaller than the standard DT's and DE's we've been using-325+DT's and 290+ DE's).
There's the hope that Alabama beats Kentucky for Matt Elam, because he presents a return to having a Cody/Jesse Williams type talent in the middle, which we did not have this year. But Elam isn't choosing till signing day.
Then there's DJ Pettway...Talented JUCO, but I really didn't want him back after the robbery. Top 10 DE out of high school, top 5 DE from his year in JUCO. Also could help against the HUNH (Pettway is also smaller than the normal Alabama DE's, at 250 lbs)
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LB's, we lose Mosley (but hey, LJ11 hates him, so no loss, right?) and Tana Patrick (longtime backup). Probably will lose Hubbard, who is more physical numbers than production (this year). The leader will need to be Trey Depriest, who got better towards the end of the year, and will need to carry on the line of good ILB's (McClain to Hightower to Mosley).
ILB candidates beyond Trey are Reggie Ragland and Reuben Foster. Been waiting to see both get more playing time, and could be the next great Alabama ILB's. Beyond those 2, not much unless some OLB's slide inside (like Dillion Lee, Devall, or Ryan Anderson). No big time ILB's in the recruiting class, now that UCLA got Whitley to flip (hopefully Saban tries to flip him back before it's too late). Shaun Hamilton is a 4 star ILB out of Montgomery, but I don't have any knowledge on him.
OLB returns Xzavier Dickson (solid, but didn't stand out), D. Devall and J. Allen (both had flashes) and Ryan Anderson as the "DE-like" OLB (JACK). At the other OLB (SAM), it's Dillion Lee and Tim Williams (was hyped on him outta High School). Roster I'm looking at is broken up OLB/ILB, so really, they're all interchangeable, except for the larger DE type JACK LB's.
OLB recruiting is bit better than ILB this year, with Christian Miller (please stay committed!) and Ronnie Clark as potential speed rusher types (220-230 lb and tall frames). Clark might also be a safety. Overall, not going after LB's as much as last year.
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It's crazier in the DB department. Losing D. Belue (CB) and Fulton (CB) Former was our best CB but not that good, latter was miserable. HCD (FS) should be leaving early and Nick Perry (S/CB) is getting a redshirt after injury (I believe, he's mentioned playing next year, though he was a senior this year).
That leaves Landon Collins (SS/FS) and Sunseri (SS/FS) as returning safeties, Jarrick Williams as a backup safety (after getting burned alot against Oklahoma), and a bunch of young CB's that either perform badly or didn't play.
Played
Bradley Sylve -WR/DB athlete, did serviceable at times
Jabriel Washington - Played, but I really don't remember him
Geno Smith - Might be good, but preseason DUI put him in the doghouse all year, didn't play much
Maurice Smith - Had some flashes, but didn't play much. Good prospect out of HS.
Cyrus Jones - WR converted to DB. Probably should have stayed at WR. Torched by teams.
Eddie Jackson - Had an outstanding day against Ole Miss, did well occasionally, but would be benched for multiple games at a time. Didn't do well against Oklahoma
Didn't play (that I know of)
Jai Miller - 28/29 year old baseball player. Giant wall of muscle, but who knows if he'll ever see the field or how he'll do.
Anthony Averett - Probably the best rated DB from last years class. Will need him to prove it and fill a spot.
Jonathan Cook - Decently rated DB from high school, but not as high as Averett or E. Jackson.
Tony Brown is a top 10 player nationally, and 3rd best CB this year and will be look towards earning a spot in a wide open CB field. Also battling with FSU for the commitment of a top 5 CB in Marlon Humphrey. To me, getting him (or any top 5 CB) is a priority after 2 games against A&M and this years Auburn/Oklahoma games. Hootie Jones fills a future need at Safety (and general DB depth). Hootie and Brown being EE helps, to get them more practice time before next year. As mentioned earlier, Ronnie Clark might also be a safety instead of OLB.
There are probably a few other uncommitted players we are going for (Elisha Shaw, Rashaan Evans, etc) but I don't know as much about them, or where Alabama stands. The top 2 that I can think of, are Matt Elam (DT/NT) and Marlon Humphrey (CB). There are also other commitments that I didn't list (mostly in the 3 star range):
Chris Williams S
Keith Holcombe ATH
O.J. Smith DT
Montel McBride OG
Johnny Dwight DT
JK Scott K
So, Defense is talented, but losing alot of leadership in Mosley and HCD. It's up in the air if Belue, Hubbard or Stinson will be noticeably missed or not, as they were either disappointments or space fillers on the field. There's talent there, hopefully to create more pass rushing than before, which always helps the secondary do better. The Leaders will be Sunseri, Depriest, and perhaps Landon Collins. It's a young defense, with only about 7 Senior players that I can think of (Ivory, Dickson, Sunseri, Depriest, Nick Perry, J. Pagan, J. Williams) and 10 or so Juniors. 22 or so Freshman/Sophomores.
Another year grown for some quality underclassmen (A'Shawn Robinson, Dee Liner, Tomlinson-who we get back after knee surgery, and Kirven) Maybe Darren Lake improves as a NT to beat Ivory.
Incoming players Jarren Reed (top 5 Juco DT), Da'Shawn Hand (top rated DE), Josh Frazier (Top 10 DT) should provide some more talent, especially those first 2. Maybe faster/quicker to help out against the influx of HUNH (Reed and Hand are smaller than the standard DT's and DE's we've been using-325+DT's and 290+ DE's).
There's the hope that Alabama beats Kentucky for Matt Elam, because he presents a return to having a Cody/Jesse Williams type talent in the middle, which we did not have this year. But Elam isn't choosing till signing day.
Then there's DJ Pettway...Talented JUCO, but I really didn't want him back after the robbery. Top 10 DE out of high school, top 5 DE from his year in JUCO. Also could help against the HUNH (Pettway is also smaller than the normal Alabama DE's, at 250 lbs)
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LB's, we lose Mosley (but hey, LJ11 hates him, so no loss, right?) and Tana Patrick (longtime backup). Probably will lose Hubbard, who is more physical numbers than production (this year). The leader will need to be Trey Depriest, who got better towards the end of the year, and will need to carry on the line of good ILB's (McClain to Hightower to Mosley).
ILB candidates beyond Trey are Reggie Ragland and Reuben Foster. Been waiting to see both get more playing time, and could be the next great Alabama ILB's. Beyond those 2, not much unless some OLB's slide inside (like Dillion Lee, Devall, or Ryan Anderson). No big time ILB's in the recruiting class, now that UCLA got Whitley to flip (hopefully Saban tries to flip him back before it's too late). Shaun Hamilton is a 4 star ILB out of Montgomery, but I don't have any knowledge on him.
OLB returns Xzavier Dickson (solid, but didn't stand out), D. Devall and J. Allen (both had flashes) and Ryan Anderson as the "DE-like" OLB (JACK). At the other OLB (SAM), it's Dillion Lee and Tim Williams (was hyped on him outta High School). Roster I'm looking at is broken up OLB/ILB, so really, they're all interchangeable, except for the larger DE type JACK LB's.
OLB recruiting is bit better than ILB this year, with Christian Miller (please stay committed!) and Ronnie Clark as potential speed rusher types (220-230 lb and tall frames). Clark might also be a safety. Overall, not going after LB's as much as last year.
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It's crazier in the DB department. Losing D. Belue (CB) and Fulton (CB) Former was our best CB but not that good, latter was miserable. HCD (FS) should be leaving early and Nick Perry (S/CB) is getting a redshirt after injury (I believe, he's mentioned playing next year, though he was a senior this year).
That leaves Landon Collins (SS/FS) and Sunseri (SS/FS) as returning safeties, Jarrick Williams as a backup safety (after getting burned alot against Oklahoma), and a bunch of young CB's that either perform badly or didn't play.
Played
Bradley Sylve -WR/DB athlete, did serviceable at times
Jabriel Washington - Played, but I really don't remember him
Geno Smith - Might be good, but preseason DUI put him in the doghouse all year, didn't play much
Maurice Smith - Had some flashes, but didn't play much. Good prospect out of HS.
Cyrus Jones - WR converted to DB. Probably should have stayed at WR. Torched by teams.
Eddie Jackson - Had an outstanding day against Ole Miss, did well occasionally, but would be benched for multiple games at a time. Didn't do well against Oklahoma
Didn't play (that I know of)
Jai Miller - 28/29 year old baseball player. Giant wall of muscle, but who knows if he'll ever see the field or how he'll do.
Anthony Averett - Probably the best rated DB from last years class. Will need him to prove it and fill a spot.
Jonathan Cook - Decently rated DB from high school, but not as high as Averett or E. Jackson.
Tony Brown is a top 10 player nationally, and 3rd best CB this year and will be look towards earning a spot in a wide open CB field. Also battling with FSU for the commitment of a top 5 CB in Marlon Humphrey. To me, getting him (or any top 5 CB) is a priority after 2 games against A&M and this years Auburn/Oklahoma games. Hootie Jones fills a future need at Safety (and general DB depth). Hootie and Brown being EE helps, to get them more practice time before next year. As mentioned earlier, Ronnie Clark might also be a safety instead of OLB.
There are probably a few other uncommitted players we are going for (Elisha Shaw, Rashaan Evans, etc) but I don't know as much about them, or where Alabama stands. The top 2 that I can think of, are Matt Elam (DT/NT) and Marlon Humphrey (CB). There are also other commitments that I didn't list (mostly in the 3 star range):
Chris Williams S
Keith Holcombe ATH
O.J. Smith DT
Montel McBride OG
Johnny Dwight DT
JK Scott K
So, Defense is talented, but losing alot of leadership in Mosley and HCD. It's up in the air if Belue, Hubbard or Stinson will be noticeably missed or not, as they were either disappointments or space fillers on the field. There's talent there, hopefully to create more pass rushing than before, which always helps the secondary do better. The Leaders will be Sunseri, Depriest, and perhaps Landon Collins. It's a young defense, with only about 7 Senior players that I can think of (Ivory, Dickson, Sunseri, Depriest, Nick Perry, J. Pagan, J. Williams) and 10 or so Juniors. 22 or so Freshman/Sophomores.
Randolph Freelander
Member
It never ends.
Imagine that there are planes like that all flying out of SoCal to the southeast, Auburn and FSU fans sharing rows, fighting over window seats, re-enacting various horse collars...
Odd that they call #12 Baylor the favorite to win the Big XII when they put OU at #8.
I write "they" and he calls it a "poll," but did he actually poll anybody or is this just the Schlabach Top 25?
timetokill
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That'd be my guess, too.
On the Rivals site, it says that he was 6'5", 215 lbs, and that Peyton Manning is 6'5", 230lbs. But he does look incredibly twiggy in comparison.
perfectchaos007
Member
Seastrunk, Josey, DAT....its going to be a crowded speedy RB class
Purple Cheeto
Member
Randall Cunningham's kid is going to USC to run track and possibly walk on to the football team.
And now you feel old.
And now you feel old.
Just saw that they'll be replaying the coaches' analysis from last night starting at 4ET on ESPNU. Was really nice to watch, and the level of commentary was much higher than what is normally on offer. I couldn't help but notice in the split screen that the guy they circled as the key for a play was not always the key guy that Herby would circle.
Jerry Rice kid finished his football eligibility this year
Randolph Freelander
Member
Fare thee well.
perfectchaos007
Member
Wasn't he the #1 recruit a few years ago? Haven't heard much from him honestly. Did he have a good year?
Randolph Freelander
Member
He wasn't the leading rusher on the team, but he averaged 7 yards per carry. 563 yards on 81 carries this year.
Also, for the off-season thread, if someone would please:
GoldenEye 007
Member
I love that on the same list they have both Central Florida and UCF.
Maybe someone will teach him coverage (cover 2, man on RBs, anything) in the offseason.
No Manziel yet, either.
Yes, he had a fantastic year. At least as fantastic as a situational running back canh have.
Randolph Freelander
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Surely the dude almost dropping it would be more appropriate?
If someone could make something smaller out of the size, go for it.
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2014/01/000.gif
Takes forever to load in my browser, though.
Purple Cheeto
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I think it depended on the service, but he was up there. Powerful RB, but many will always wonder how he could have been as a LB. Much of his ranking was with that in mind (his LB abilities) although our decision to recruit him as a RB is why he ended up at FSU.
It's been known for awhile that he would leave early..Devonta may go as well. Jimbo said he only thought 2-3 guys would leave early today which is shocking because you'd think 5-6 would be very viable candidates to do so. Jameis said he was gonna try and get them to come back.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Football players only have so many hits their bodies can take. I won't begrudge any student athlete from going pro early, but especially not football players. Make the money while there's money to be made.
Fulton leaving is addition by subtraction. Seems like a decent guy, but yikes.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Looks like the secondary could be troubling, but hey, we might get a good pass rush, which I don't think we've had since Dareus left. Excellent writeup and it'll be interesting to see how things play out over the off-season.
I wonder if Uncle Nate qualifies to collect unemployment?
Edit:
Hey, Lone, this should make you smile:
I was so amped and kept seeing this long ass post being quoted but skipped over it due to the wall of SEC. Holy fuck, this is an absolutely legendary post.